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#126
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Stupid evil 

 

What is that supposed to be? Any example situations? 



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It'd be cool for once if one of the "dark" characters was actually dark without a sappy backstory or a secretly kind heart. Can't they just be bad people ? 



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What is that supposed to be? Any example situations? 

 

Here

 

Morrigan was being stupid evil at redcliff as an example. The only thing abandoning redcliffe does is bolster the enemy forces while weakening the resources you have to capture the castle.



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You know I'm to be perfectly honest here and just admit my problem isn't that don't want Bioware to have a LI that's evil in their games but with the players that want one so badly.

 

I totally behind player choice and I know that I shouldn't care what people across the globe do with their video game. The thing is through I just find it really off putting that some people are synced about wanting to date an evil character. And when I mean evil I don't mean Morrigan, Zervan, Loghain or even Shale, but someone like Mornith from ME. It makes me unconformable and kind of remains me of fan-girls who were in love with Chris Brown even after they found out that he was a domestic abuser.

 

I know that the two aren't the same situation, but I still feel creeped out all the same. 



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You know I'm to be perfectly honest here and just admit my problem isn't that don't want Bioware to have a LI that's evil in their games but with the players that want one so badly.

 

I totally behind player choice and I know that I shouldn't care what people across the globe do with their video game. The thing is through I just find it really off putting that some people are synced about wanting to date an evil character. And when I mean evil I don't mean Morrigan, Zervan, Loghain or even Shale, but someone like Mornith from ME. It makes me unconformable and kind of remains me of fan-girls who were in love with Chris Brown even after they found out that he was a domestic abuser.

 

I know that the two aren't the same situation, but I still feel creeped out all the same. 

 

It's quite simple, I'm just an evil person myself, so I want to romance a person that I relate to. 



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You know I'm to be perfectly honest here and just admit my problem isn't that don't want Bioware to have a LI that's evil in their games but with the players that want one so badly.

 

I totally behind player choice and I know that I shouldn't care what people across the globe do with their video game. The thing is through I just find it really off putting that some people are synced about wanting to date an evil character. And when I mean evil I don't mean Morrigan, Zervan, Loghain or even Shale, but someone like Mornith from ME. It makes me unconformable and kind of remains me of fan-girls who were in love with Chris Brown even after they found out that he was a domestic abuser.

 

I know that the two aren't the same situation, but I still feel creeped out all the same. 

 

I know I'm not looking for specifically evil like Bates or Hannibal, but more like Dr. House or Henry Higgins.



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Doesn't necessarily have to be like Morinth (though I wouldn't mind that), someone like Aria would do too



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It's quite simple, I'm just an evil person myself, so I want to romance a person that I relate to. 

 

Fair enough, my evil friend. Fair enough. 

 

Just please don't point your death ray or weather machine near Canada. I live there and really don't the want government to surrender to your empire of evil evilness. 


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You know I'm to be perfectly honest here and just admit my problem isn't that don't want Bioware to have a LI that's evil in their games but with the players that want one so badly.

 

I totally behind player choice and I know that I shouldn't care what people across the globe do with their video game. The thing is through I just find it really off putting that some people are synced about wanting to date an evil character. And when I mean evil I don't mean Morrigan, Zervan, Loghain or even Shale, but someone like Mornith from ME. It makes me unconformable and kind of remains me of fan-girls who were in love with Chris Brown even after they found out that he was a domestic abuser.

 

I know that the two aren't the same situation, but I still feel creeped out all the same. 

 

Just ignore the LI? I'm a bit creeped out by some Talimancers. I just avoid the romance and her thread for the most part. And we can play evil characters and romance LIs already.

 

As for Chris Brown. I'd imagine most of us are well aware of the differences between fictional romances and real life abusive relationships. I wouldn't want to be in a vast majority of BWs romances with the so called good characters. It'd be no different with a darker one.



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Fair enough, my evil friend. Fair enough. 

 

Just please don't point your death ray or weather machine near Canada. I live there and really don't the want government to surrender to your empire of evil evilness. 

 

Lel. 

 

But in all seriousness: I've never related to any character in any video game or movie as much as I did to Morinth. 



#136
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The thing is though who really wants to be with a complete dick? You ever hear the warning of never dating someone who's rude to waiters?



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The thing is though who really wants to be with a complete dick? You ever hear the warning of never dating someone who's rude to waiters?

 

That's not how it works at all. How a person treats other people is never an indication of how you will be treated.



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It's quite simple, I'm just an evil person myself, so I want to romance a person that I relate to. 

I always think how stupid it is when the bad guys team up just because they're both evil, because evil traits like being selfish, egotistical and traitorous aren't very beneficial for your partner.

 

An evil LI would most definitely cheat on you, and that's the least of your worries since otherwise good people do it too



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That's not how it works at all. How a person treats other people is never an indication of how you will be treated.

It's a very good indication of what kind of person someone is beyond the facade that they're trying to impress you with. You've really never heard this advice? I guess it applies more to men



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I always think how stupid it is when the bad guys team up just because they're both evil, because evil traits like being selfish, egotistical and traitorous aren't very beneficial for your partner.

 

And evil LI would most definitely cheat on you, and that's the least of your worries since otherwise good people do it too

 

No ''evil'' LI actually tend to be more loyal, because they don't care about other people they might screw up while pleasing you, 

Love is selfish in it's nature, ''Evil'' people take it to the extreme. 

When you cheat you don't gain, you lose, and that is a silly action. 

The more you give to other people the less is left for yourself and your partner. 


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No ''evil'' LI actually tend to be more loyal, because they don't care about other people they might screw up while pleasing you, 

Love is selfish in it's nature, ''Evil'' people take it to the extreme. 

When you cheat you don't gain, you lose, and that is a silly action. 

The more you give to other people the less is left for yourself and your partner. 

 

Well they would sell you out, and being evil and as they don't care about other people, which means you, it also can also involve connotations of rape


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#142
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It's a very good indication of what kind of person someone is beyond the facade that they're trying to impress you with. You've really never heard this advice? I guess it applies more to men

 

I will make a personal example. There are people in my life that I want to hug and people that I want to punch in the face. If I am rude to a random waiter that I don't know, it doesn't mean that I will act in any way similar towards people that I actually care about. 


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No ''evil'' LI actually tend to be more loyal, because they don't care about other people they might screw up while pleasing you, 

Love is selfish in it's nature, ''Evil'' people take it to the extreme. 

When you cheat you don't gain, you lose, and that is a silly action. 

The more you give to other people the less is left for yourself and your partner. 

That's not how bad people or relationships work :huh:



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Well they would sell you out, and being evil and as they don't care about other people, which means you, it also can also involve connotations of rape

 

You still don't get it. Not having morals, doesn't mean that you do not care for anyone. If you have a person in your life that makes said life better, why dafuq would you sell them out? That's stabbing yourself in the foot. 



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That's not how bad people or relationships work :huh:

 

All people are different, things work differently for everybody. This is what tends to be. 



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That's not how bad people or relationships work :huh:

I don't think he actually understands how disfunctional relationship or what horrofic things people actually do in such relationships, or in general. as that seems to be what he is advocating while being naive about it. 


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How old are you Kain?



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I don't think he actually understands how disfunctional relationship or what horrofic things people actually do in such relationships, or in general. as that seems to be what he is advocating while being naive about it. 

 

When was I talking about disfunctional relationships? That's not what I want. 



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How old are you Kain?

 

23



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When was I talking about disfunctional relationships? That's not what I want. 

 

you are talking about evil relationships. EVIL, and you explictly stated and I quote "they don't care about other people." Abuse and Rape are two things which would occure in an evil relationship, because by their very defination they are not in a good or healthy relationship.