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[Wulfram]

It could make sense if you were dealing with a lot of people who already knew you - though there it should probably be the perception, not necessarily the reality.

But Inquisition you're not dealing with people who know you really, so I don't think it makes sense.

[daveliam]

I agree that I'm not sure that this is really necessary as we can essentially do this through our actions and choices in the game.

 

The other thing that I'm not sure about is the fact that it would create these categories, such as the four that you listed, and it might be too restrictive for some players who want to play outside of those four sexualities.  Since sexuality is a very nuanced thing, I just suspect that it would end up alienating many people who don't immediately identify as one of the four that you listed.  I mean, you could include twenty and there would still be people who feel they are being left out.

 

I think it's just better to leave as is and allow the player to decide in whatever way they feel works best for them.

[Yinello]

I understand the idea but it's much more natural to express this in game towards the NPCs than have them react to pre-programming.

[Panda]

It is, but why at character creation ? it's something that should be a possibility to express via dialogue, yes, what is the point of a CC option ?

 

In game like DAI not much point. I have seen option in text based rpg game where it has more reason; no unnecessary pages of dozen people flirting with your character. I imagine some players who like to build their character would like the choice though, you can of cource express you sexuality in the dialogues but maybe it would strenghten the sense of sexuality since it would be something that changed up game (dialogue and LI wise) and be something you can't change when you play?

 

Personally i'm neutral about whole thing. I wouldn't mind change to pick my sexuality in the game but it's quite unnecessary.

[Nefla]

If it meant more dialogue then sure but otherwise I don't see the need.

[Pen-N-Paper]

How would you feel about the idea of selecting your PCs sexuality during character creation?

It would work on several levels, not limited to the simple gene theory of sexual preference/gender determinism. Essentially, everyone is playing as a bisexual character now as no stated preference is ever incorporated into the actual role-play. [I forget, this is a role-playing game not a button masher.]

 

I do not follow that my decision to role-play a straight character should automatically entitle me to White Man's Privilege or, for that matter, ostracize me for playing a GLBT character.

 

Primarily it would work for the players, the consumers, who plunk down their money. It would work by not in-your-face with someone's religious/moral/political/sexual identity issues/message. [I forget, this is a game not a GLBT manifesto.] So if you're uncomfortable with homosexuality, for example, then at Character Generation/Creation you set the control and miss all those cutscenes. You may still react as you wish within the confines of the relationship as friends/mission co-workers. The issue of sexuality just does not come up. And you just do not grind your teeth every time you get hit upon in a manner programmed someone, with or without an agenda, thinks it would work; which really just serves to emphasize a negative stereotype and grind your teeth.

 

Good idea, inclusive to the market.

 

"Set Sexuality For The PC" has an interesting meaning if the message is Political Correctness.

[Mihura]

In my opinion even the gender should not be a obvious option, so no I do not think this should be a thing because there are to many definitions to include, it is better to left the player decide. 

[Pen-N-Paper]

 it is better to left the player decide. 

Please clarify so I understand: Does the player make decisions about their character at Character Creation?

I am not sure I am understanding your argument. Just clarify for me, please, without sarcasm; so I know how making a choice like "Warrior" would be any different than the player making a choice like "Bisexual."

[Yermogi]

The idea is an interesting one. I never thought of it myself since 95% of the time I play a straight female (I'm a straight female, so it just happens that way I guess),  but if it opened up different dialogue content or perhaps further back-story, that sounds interesting. I'm not opposed to the idea. It would just have to be implemented well, which I'm not sure could be done. It's very easy to screw something like that up.

[Lady Luminous]

I've never actually figured out my PC's sexuality until like... an hour or three into the game. It ends up depending on which of my companions I actually want to romance, haha. 

[Massakkolia]

For me sexuality is something fluid, and I would not like to lock it down at the character creation. It would unable me to roleplay characters who are just discovering their sexual preference or are going through a transformational period in their lives.

 

Besides, I don't plan most of my characters fully before the game. I might not even know their sexual preferences before I've interacted with the NPCs and established something of a personality for my PC. 

 

Also, it could be problematic if the sexuality choice in the CC would be used to lock some content. For example, if gay NPCs would end up only flirting with gay PCs. We should encounter the whole spectrum of sexuality within the game regardless of what sexuality we play as. It adds more depth to relationships.

 

And could the people spamming the thread with vapid images just stop. You're the ones causing the possible lock down of this thread, not the OP, who was articulate and had a reasonable suggestion (even if I don't agree with it).

[Mihura]

Please clarify so I understand: Does the player make decisions about their character at Character Creation?

I am not sure I am understanding your argument. Just clarify for me, please, without sarcasm; so I know how making a choice like "Warrior" would be any different than the player making a choice like "Bisexual."

 

As is in game, decide what they want, it is quite different choosing a sexuality, it is not something that you see from outside. The CC should only be for how you character looks, armor, face, body, race. The morals, sexuality, personality, etc should be left to the player to decide in game and not forced on the CC, that would open a can of worm because you cannot possible represent everyone in text with the resources they have.

Here is a example. My character is demisexual, winch means it can be attracted to anyone they feel an emotional attachment too, of course it will be easier make them heterosexual or homosexual but that is not really the sexuality of my character. Bioware cannot predict all the players head-canon or choices, leaving it open is for the best.

[JadePrince]

Personally, I'd just prefer to see more in-game dialogue/action options which develop these aspects of our character. Give me the option to turn down a flirt specifically with the explanation that I'm not interested in women. Give me the opportunity to tell people in game that I'm gay (if I want to). Stuff like that. (Also, when I'm playing a woman, give me the option to punch people in the face who are rude about it or make sexist comments. )

[Who Knows]

Personally, I'd just prefer to see more in-game dialogue/action options which develop these aspects of our character. Give me the option to turn down a flirt specifically with the explanation that I'm not interested in women. Give me the opportunity to tell people in game that I'm gay (if I want to). Stuff like that. (Also, when I'm playing a woman, give me the option to punch people in the face who are rude about it or make sexist comments. )

They actually gave female Shepard the option to say to Liara that she's interested in men only, so I don't see why they shouldn't do that for gay PCs too.

[daveliam]

They actually gave female Shepard the option to say to Liara that she's interested in men only, so I don't see why they shouldn't do that for gay PCs too.

 

Can't male Shep turn down Steve with a "I'm straight, but thanks anyway" option? 

 

I'm still waiting for my "Sorry Ashley, Liara, Miranda, Jack, Tali, Kelly, and Diana, I'm not interested in you because I'm into guys." dialogue option.  Instead, I get vague turn downs and find myself dodging flirts left and right, hoping to not have my 'nice guy' conversations being misinterpreted as something more.

[veeia]

The Steve option was like "I'm here to look at ladies/I'm here to look at dudes"...and bisexual Sheps everywhere cried. ;P

[Who Knows]

Can't male Shep turn down Steve with a "I'm straight, but thanks anyway" option? 

It wasn't really a turn down, but it was essentially a "I'm straight" option.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Don't you already set your character's sexuality by choosing who, if anyone, you flirt with or romance? 

[veeia]

It wasn't really a turn down, but it was essentially a "I'm straight" option.

 

Here, I found it.

 

 

Not a turn down, but an assertion of sexuality so if you choose the "right woman", Cortez doesn't hit on you, essentially, iirc. 

 

Problem here is...if you're romancing Kaidan or no one or your Shep is bisexual....it doesn't work. So IMO, it functions better as a "no gay please" option than a " let me define my sexual preferences." 

[Who Knows]

Here, I found it.

 

 

Not a turn down, but an assertion of sexuality so if you choose the "right woman", Cortez doesn't hit on you, essentially, iirc. 

 

Problem here is...if you're romancing Kaidan or no one or your Shep is bisexual....it doesn't work. So IMO, it functions better as a "no gay please" option than a " let me define my sexual preferences." 

If you are romancing Kaidan then Steve mentions that and you don't get the options listed in the screenshot.

 

Anyway, what I was actually talking about was the response you can have when Cortez mentions eye candy in the crowd.

[veeia]

After lock-in, though, right? My impression was that if you hadn't locked in anyone yet, you essentially either hit on Cortez or say you're straight....I stil haven't managed to play ME3 as a guy yet though, so I'm just getting this from YT videos. I apologize if I'm spreading wrong information.

[Vox Draco]

Hmmm, I don't see much point in such a part of char-creation. Seeing people already complain about the main char being voiced constraining their imagination too much, well, I think char-creation should be left open as much as possible, allowing to roleplay as you go. Things like family-heritage etc are alright for me though, it leaves a lot open for interpretation and has no real influence on the chars character...his or her sexual past however?

 

Now I see the point, of having things from the past popping up as you play, but why? Again, too much restriction of the char. Make up any affairs and loves of your char in your mind yourself, and leave the game to only tell its current story, not going back on past sexual relations. It'S not about the past, the game is about here and now. Everything before the game should be up to us to imagine, and I don't like the game to contradict my vision too much...and if a former love pops up while my char never had a relationship...no...

 

Also, I don't like this "set char to straight" - option for the simple reason that I evilly enjoy the thought of narrow-minded people getting the risk of being confronted romantically with their beloved manly-man char He-tero the Straightforward by NPCs of the same sex ... as a developer, I would put content like that in only for this very reason

[daveliam]

After lock-in, though, right? My impression was that if you hadn't locked in anyone yet, you essentially either hit on Cortez or say you're straight....I stil haven't managed to play ME3 as a guy yet though, so I'm just getting this from YT videos. I apologize if I'm spreading wrong information.

 

Yeah this is accurate.  There's even another "Warning: You are about to flirt with a guy" option after this if I remember correctly.

[Who Knows]

After lock-in, though, right? My impression was that if you hadn't locked in anyone yet, you essentially either hit on Cortez or say you're straight....I stil haven't managed to play ME3 as a guy yet though, so I'm just getting this from YT videos. I apologize if I'm spreading wrong information.

Okay so this is essentially how it works:

Cortez mentions finding male eye candy in crowd and that he isn't turned on by the (female) dancers.

Shepard can respond to this by saying by hitting on Cortez* or by saying that those dancers are just fine to him. The latter come across as a "I'm interested in only the ladies," although this isn't something outright like female Shepard saying she's straight to Liara in ME1.

 

*Shepard says he's hurt that Cortez wasn't looking at him when he mentioned eye candy. After that Shepard, Shepard with no current romance gets the option to say that he's waiting for the right man or right woman. The latter could be seen as an indication that Shepard was just completely joking (and is actually straight) or that he's bisexual but prefers women.

[Reidbynature]

It's an idea, but not by any means a priority in my opinion.  I think if something like that were implemented then the best case would be that it merely meant certain npc's didn't hit on you if it didn't match your orientation and not be a 'make Thedas less gay' button where any references to sexual orientations other than the one you selected is suddenly muted.

 

Either way it just seems like a non-issue to me where it essentially comes down to some gamers who feel uncomfortable with saying "No thank you" when it comes to an npc they don't want their player character having a relationship with suggest they're open to one.