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Yeah this is accurate. There's even another "Warning: You are about to flirt with a guy" option after this if I remember correctly.
Nothing will beat the whole Anders is about to kiss you and you get a dialogue wheel right before he pounces in sheer hilarious factor. One of the choices even has nothing said and just lets Anders kisses you.
I was rolling.
But it did get me thinking. How would you feel about the idea of selecting your PCs sexuality during character creation? Straight, Gay, Bisexual, or Ambiguous. The game itself doesn't change based on what you pick (if you select "Straight", for example, a gay companion would still be a gay companion) but maybe some of your background and the way certain NPCs interact with you might be different. One of your childhood friends might mention a previous relationships you've had, a LI that matches your sexuality might hit on you first, or maybe even your dialog options could change in specific situations. If you choose "Ambiguous", maybe the sex scene is replaced with the two of you getting down to some hardcore cuddling.
Does this idea appeal to you? Why or why not? If you like the idea or are on the fence, what could make it better or more appealing?
Nothing will beat the whole Anders is about to kiss you and you get a dialogue wheel right before he pounces in sheer hilarious factor. One of the choices even has nothing said and just lets Anders kisses you.
I was rolling.
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To be very clear about this, I am in no way suggesting that setting your character as "Straight" will erase any LGBT content from the game. If a companion is gay, they will still be gay. I'm honestly not even suggesting that this would stop a gay companion from hitting on a straight PC. But your dialog option might change from, "I'm just into ladies, sorry" to "I don't think of you that way", for example. This was sort of a half-baked idea, and one that I posted at, like, 8 am local time before I went to bed (I work second shift), so I probably didn't explain it very well.
My thinking as to what the benefit would be is that it would allow the writers to add more details about the PCs life prior to you "taking over", as it were. Because the more details added the more real the world feels. As it is now, it's not really possible to, say, have a companion happen to be friends with someone you used to date, because the writers wouldn't really be able to define that character. Now, a conversation like, "Oh, you used to go to the academy? I used to go there to!" could happen. But, "Oh, you know Linda? I used to DATE Linda!" cannot.
Which is just one small example. I'm sure there are others, which is why I created this thread. I'm curious as to what benefits other people could think of to using this system.
Sounds more like a situation where something like having an extra dialogue option or just having more refined options instead of a straight/LGBT CC option would be more appropriate. Something like "I don't think of you that way" would make do in place of both a same sex or male/female rejection.
Plus I don't see any real benefit from certain people saying "hey, you used to date whatshername". It just seems like such a minimal detail to implement an option in CC for. Nothing wrong with setting a more tailored backstory for our characters, but it would really have to be about a lot more than just sexual preference and more about who we are as a character overall than a straight/LGBT option.
they already have a system that determines this, all you have to do is select the convo option with the heart if you're interested in someone and otherwise if you aren't. and then if you find an exception to your regular type then you aren't sol.
they already have a system that determines this, all you have to do is select the convo option with the heart if you're interested in someone and otherwise if you aren't. and then if you find an exception to your regular type then you aren't sol.
I guess I'm not explaining this well. Setting your own sexuality is not about restricting your options in the game. You could still romance whomever you'd like. But setting your sexuality would allow the writers to, say, have a past lover show up and maybe be important to the game in some way. As the person above you said, it's probably not worth it if it only allows, "Hey, I used to date that person!". I was just using that as an example. Apparently a poor one.
I am straight male and romanced Isabela, but my Hawke Isabela and Zevran had sex so. No. I would like to choose to who my character attracted. If we have to female A and B it don't mean character attracted to both of them by default.
It would work on several levels, not limited to the simple gene theory of sexual preference/gender determinism. Essentially, everyone is playing as a bisexual character now as no stated preference is ever incorporated into the actual role-play. [I forget, this is a role-playing game not a button masher.]
I do not follow that my decision to role-play a straight character should automatically entitle me to White Man's Privilege or, for that matter, ostracize me for playing a GLBT character.
Primarily it would work for the players, the consumers, who plunk down their money. It would work by not in-your-face with someone's religious/moral/political/sexual identity issues/message. [I forget, this is a game not a GLBT manifesto.] So if you're uncomfortable with homosexuality, for example, then at Character Generation/Creation you set the control and miss all those cutscenes. You may still react as you wish within the confines of the relationship as friends/mission co-workers. The issue of sexuality just does not come up. And you just do not grind your teeth every time you get hit upon in a manner programmed someone, with or without an agenda, thinks it would work; which really just serves to emphasize a negative stereotype and grind your teeth.
Good idea, inclusive to the market.
"Set Sexuality For The PC" has an interesting meaning if the message is Political Correctness.
Revil was pretty clear in the first post he wasn't talking about any sort of gay toggle. But that idea has been answered pretty decisively anyway - link here
I guess I'm not explaining this well. Setting your own sexuality is not about restricting your options in the game. You could still romance whomever you'd like. But setting your sexuality would allow the writers to, say, have a past lover show up and maybe be important to the game in some way. As the person above you said, it's probably not worth it if it only allows, "Hey, I used to date that person!". I was just using that as an example. Apparently a poor one.
It'd be a strange approach, but I don't really find a problem with it. It'd be a little like the human noble in DAO but with more depth. I think they just want you to develop relationships rather than just happening to already have one, so the Inquisitor is just that mysterious nobody. It cliche but it's easy but it isn't going to confuse anyone about the protagonist's past and it's not going to take extra effort and work to establish who the inquisitor already was.
If such a thing were to exist, I would hope it was optional. I shouldn't have to tell the game about every detail of my PC in order for it to be true.While reading through a different thread, the idea of including a toggle to allow/disallow gay content to appear in the game came up once again. I bring this up only as background. Please do not discuss that idea in this thread.
But it did get me thinking. How would you feel about the idea of selecting your PCs sexuality during character creation? Straight, Gay, Bisexual, or Ambiguous. The game itself doesn't change based on what you pick (if you select "Straight", for example, a gay companion would still be a gay companion) but maybe some of your background and the way certain NPCs interact with you might be different. One of your childhood friends might mention a previous relationships you've had, a LI that matches your sexuality might hit on you first, or maybe even your dialog options could change in specific situations. If you choose "Ambiguous", maybe the sex scene is replaced with the two of you getting down to some hardcore cuddling.
Does this idea appeal to you? Why or why not? If you like the idea or are on the fence, what could make it better or more appealing?
Nothing will beat the whole Anders is about to kiss you and you get a dialogue wheel right before he pounces in sheer hilarious factor. One of the choices even has nothing said and just lets Anders kisses you.
I was rolling.
I'm still wondering how people "accidentally" romanced Anders. It's literally just pushing the Heart button.
I'd just like race-gate dialogue for the PC, so you could say, for exemple "sorry, I don't do dwarves" or "no boobs, no go"
I'm still wondering how people "accidentally" romanced Anders. It's literally just pushing the Heart button.
Not only that, but they would have to hit the heart button a lot in order to actually romance him.
Not only that, but they would have to hit the heart button a lot in order to actually romance him.
It is pretty much impossible to romance anyone by mistake - only explantion is someone walked in and saw Hawke and Anders kissing and gamer who was embarrassed to be playing a M/M romance needed a quick cover story 
It is pretty much impossible to romance anyone by mistake - only explantion is someone walked in and saw Hawke and Anders kissing and gamer who was embarrassed to be playing a M/M romance needed a quick cover story
I think that the argument is that if you select the diplomatic answers when talking to him, he hits on you and then you get a bunch of rivalry points when you turn him down. Which leads people to believe that they were accidentally in a romance with him and didn't know it. And also that the game was punishing them for it.
These people are wrong, but what can you do?
They actually gave female Shepard the option to say to Liara that she's interested in men only, so I don't see why they shouldn't do that for gay PCs too.
When does FemShep say that? it always seemed to me that female Shepard was bisexual no matter what with other characters talking about her & Liara having sexual tension as well as the forced flirting with Jacob & James
If you are romancing Kaidan already, there's an option labeled "But you're female!" that says "I'm only interested in men." If you are not romancing Kaidan it is "You're interested in me, even though we're both women?" instead.
Can you turn Liara down without saying that you're only interested in men if you're romancing Kaidan? What if you're not romancing anyone, or Samantha? Does it change? Geez I need to replay this stuff, but I distinctly remember feeling like it was hard to express bisexuality on the players side.
Fairly impossible, I think, but I've only ever completed any of the games as anything other than a lesbian Femshep. No interest in being with a guy, and I only ever completed ME1 as Maleshep and I didn't do the Ashley romance because I was saving myself for Jack. Then I couldn't even get through the second game that way because it felt weird. 
Can you turn Liara down without saying that you're only interested in men if you're romancing Kaidan?
Yes you can.
What if you're not romancing anyone, or Samantha? Does it change? Geez I need to replay this stuff, but I distinctly remember feeling like it was hard to express bisexuality on the players side.
It's actually Mass Effect 1 I'm talking about, so Samantha is out of the picture here.
When does FemShep say that? it always seemed to me that female Shepard was bisexual no matter what with other characters talking about her & Liara having sexual tension as well as the forced flirting with Jacob & James
James didn't bother me too much. I think it's because I could tell right away that it wasn't going anywhere and she was mainly giving him a hard time. Maybe it was because my first Shep was a biromantic-xenophile (she liked aliens, what can I say,) and I just couldn't take James' comments seriously.
Jacob did bother me, and I have a decent reason for that. You see, my brother IRL is named Jacob, and every time she'd talk in a sly flirting way to him (that came from auto-dialogue, not from my choice,) it would make me shudder. Just...no. 
No, doesnt appeal to me at all.
EDIT: Changed my post as this is not appropiate to discuss effectively....wont return.
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