This makes our choices in DA:O worthless
Might as well make a canon TES did
No. It would make our choices be less permanent. Not everything you do lasts forever. Conner, for example, can still be possessed at a later point in his life. He isn't permanently freed from that threat. Orzammar can have a civil war, for whatever reason, and Harrowmount\Bhelen can be replaced by someone new.
Actually I am a writer. Published one too. It is my job.
remind me not to read your books. Lol
my explanation of a good breakup would be understandable in a game- morrigan used you and left. That's a good plot point.
to just say "we broke up" after everything in origins and disappearing is just stupid.ruins all my choices and all I did for no reason.
Good ideas
Except dying
My Warden would be happy to help the Architect or/and Avernus
But what of my Warden? Avernus and Architect are worm food, and the OGB isn't his baby!
remind me not to read your books. Lol
my explanation of a good breakup would be understandable in a game- morrigan used you and left. That's a good plot point.
to just say "we broke up" after everything in origins and disappearing is just stupid.
I was just tossing in an option for an explanation. Not saying it would be something set in stone.
Actually, in DA:O, people in the game warn us about Morrigan and Leliana all the time. They they are liars and should not be trusted.
If Leliana just says "we broke up", that would be fine. Why would she go into details about anything in her lovelife with the Inquisitor? She has just met the Inquisitor.
My warden died slaying the arche-demon. So I think maybe passing by an over-grown tombstone.
"In death, sacrifice."
I was just tossing in an option for an explanation. Not saying it would be something set in stone.
Actually, in DA:O, people in the game warn us about Morrigan and Leliana all the time. They they are liars and should not be trusted.
If Leliana just says "we broke up", that would be fine. Why would she go into details about anything in her lovelife with the Inquisitor? She has just met the Inquisitor.
I will bond with her over talk of hair and shoes and she will reveal all to me...*cue Dr Evil laugh* 
*Edit* in two of my games, Leliana is my Warden's LI. One is a King...so she better NOT be talking about a relationship since that was supposed to be discreet. The other, my Cousland stayed a warden and chose 'travel with her'. Did something happen? Did he fall to whatever is afflicting the GWs in Inquisition (I have my suspicions but won't post them for spoiler purposes) and she had to run away from him to save her life?
My other wardens either were Alistair's mistress or Queen. Or dead.
Honorable mention would be fine with me. Or a tombstone saying "She's dead, Jim".
Rawgrim, consider asunder.
Lets pretend the 2 mages (i forget their name.. the redhead crazy one and the main character) were a couple then asunder happened and they broke up and he ended up with the templar.
now, lets pretend this was a game and you romanced the redhead. It would make sense to break up when she went crazy.
It is, however, silly to just write a meaningless breakup after the game ends.
But can we stop derailing this thread with this breakup nonsense. lol
But what of my Warden? Avernus and Architect are worm food, and the OGB isn't his baby!
If Alistair is alive and well, our Wardens should be too
Since it's canon that our Wardens decided to stay in the order (which I don't mind: a good story with a customisable PC needs both vague freedom and solid ground, facts) I guess if your Warden survived the war, didn't marry the queen/king they can simply do what they always did: solve problems in the region, fight darkspawn and wait unti; their time comes
And to make it more even and fair for all possible Wardens their Calling hasn't come yet. They might wait a couple more years OR work with A/A to postpone it
I was just tossing in an option for an explanation. Not saying it would be something set in stone.
Actually, in DA:O, people in the game warn us about Morrigan and Leliana all the time. They they are liars and should not be trusted.
If Leliana just says "we broke up", that would be fine. Why would she go into details about anything in her lovelife with the Inquisitor? She has just met the Inquisitor.
alright, I can live with this post. Makes enough sense. But i'd be completely angry if it was what happened.
Rawgrim, consider asunder.
Lets pretend the 2 mages (i forget their name.. the redhead crazy one and the main character) were a couple then asunder happened and they broke up and he ended up with the templar.
now, lets pretend this was a game and you romanced the redhead. It would make sense to break up when she went crazy.
It is, however, silly to just write a meaningless breakup after the game ends.
But can we stop derailing this thread with this breakup nonsense. lol
Just saying it could be one explanation for what happened. Asunder isn't canon anyway, though.
A couple breaking up during a 10 year period is not nonsense. It is perfectly plausable, allthough I admit it would be a poor way to do it in this case.
I was just tossing in an option for an explanation. Not saying it would be something set in stone.
Actually, in DA:O, people in the game warn us about Morrigan and Leliana all the time. They they are liars and should not be trusted.
If Leliana just says "we broke up", that would be fine. Why would she go into details about anything in her lovelife with the Inquisitor? She has just met the Inquisitor.
Such a break up would only end up hurting players' feelings and nothing important
If a break up story is needed, it should be played on-screen, not off-screen
Killing/breaking up/disappearing off-screen is just bad writing. It gives no content, no context, no meaning, it's just pointless and lazy way to get rid of things one doesn't want to work with
Such a break up would only end up hurting players' feelings and nothing important
If a break up story is needed, it should be played on-screen, not off-screen
Killing/breaking up/disappearing off-screen is just bad writing. It gives no content, no context, no meaning, it's just pointless and lazy way to get rid of things one doesn't want to work with
Well there is no point in having a scene like that in DA:I. The warden isn't directly tied to the story at all. So adding something like that would feel rather forced.
Such a break up would only end up hurting players' feelings and nothing important
If a break up story is needed, it should be played on-screen, not off-screen
Killing/breaking up/disappearing off-screen is just bad writing. It gives no content, no context, no meaning, it's just pointless and lazy way to get rid of things one doesn't want to work with
Maybe Bioware is trying to be nice to the players. This way you can imagine any fate you want for him/her. The only time it gets sticky is "Why isn't my king/queen ruling Ferelden?". I don't need to see my warden's Calling to know his/her story is over. I'm content imagining her riding off into the sunset happily.
Seriously, what is so freaking special about the Warden that people just can't let it go? He had no personality except what the player makes up in his head. He had no voice except what the player makes up in his head. He did his thing, it was epic, he stopped a blight. Very few wardens get to do this. Even the Orlesian warden (which the player can play) doesn't do anything any other warden commander would be capable of doing.
Since his personality is entirely head canon, there's no way Bioware could possibly give him a presence in a game featuring another protagonist that would be true to everyone's vision. 10 different people are going to have 10 different perceptions and no doubt no matter what Bioware did, all 10 would insist "My warden wouldn't do that".
The whole 'disappearance thing' works for me. It falls right into my own head canon and allows me closure in my own mind. I don't need Bioware to say X happened to Neria. Because no matter what it is, it's going to fubar it up in my head.
Be careful what you wish for people. The worst that could happen is you find out.
You might as well direct all that energy at Bioware for having Leliana say the Warden and Hawke disappeared at the end of DA2. Most people who had closure lost it when the warden was described as MIA. It made it feel like his story wasn't over and like his disappearance was somehow plot relevant.
So if you want to vent, Gaider's around here somewhere I'm sure.
Well there is no point in having a scene like that in DA:I. The warden isn't directly tied to the story at all. So adding something like that would feel rather forced.
To tell a break up story lovers don't need to be a LI and a PC
We'll probably will deal with Varric and his relationship with Bianca
He stayed loyal to her for more than 10 years even though everyone thinks she's dead but the devs hinted she isn't. Or any NPC couple, really
Actually, in DA:O, people in the game warn us about Morrigan and Leliana all the time. They they are liars and should not be trusted.
If Leliana just says "we broke up", that would be fine. Why would she go into details about anything in her lovelife with the Inquisitor? She has just met the Inquisitor.
there will be endless refferences of Isabella the warden 2 greased up Nugs and a room on the Perl
Leliana and the Warden was described as an 'active relationship' a while back, so I kinda doubt that's gonna happen.
I doubt it too. Very much so. Was just arguing that couples do break up. And it just takes one of them to do it.
Seriously, what is so freaking special about the Warden that people just can't let it go? He had no personality except what the player makes up in his head. He had no voice except what the player makes up in his head.
Maybe Bioware is trying to be nice to the players. This way you can imagine any fate you want for him/her. The only time it gets sticky is "Why isn't my king/queen ruling Ferelden?". I don't need to see my warden's Calling to know his/her story is over. I'm content imagining her riding off into the sunset happily.
They made DA2. Of course they don't care about being nice to players!!!! (Hides from the approaching mob)
Here is one important bit. Bioware said, very early one, that once DA:O and DA2 were done, The Warden and Hawke are no longer the Player's character. They belong to Bioware and they can do what they wish with them. They were clear and straightforward about that bit from the get go.
Leliana and the Warden was described as an 'active relationship' a while back, so I kinda doubt that's gonna happen.
To be fair, they said the romance would be acknowledged in Awakenings too. And we got...one slide at the end of the game. In fact, the slide my King Cousland was supposed to get got borked and I never did get the "Leliana one". A later patch, I think, installed a letter from Leliana/Zevran but Grey Warden Alistair was completely ignored. Or that may have been a mod I installed...I forget...
To be fair, they said the romance would be acknowledged in Awakenings too. And we got...one slide at the end of the game. In fact, the slide my King Cousland was supposed to get got borked and I never did get the "Leliana one". A later patch, I think, installed a letter from Leliana/Zevran but Grey Warden Alistair was completely ignored. Or that may have been a mod I installed...I forget...
They also said that Morrigan's secret would be explained, as well as her motives. That wasn't true at all.
But so far Bioware hasnt given players a reason for keeping the warden alive after DAO. So i have to say this what is the point Bioware, what is the point of keeping a character alive if there is no story afterwards or infact no place in history.
I can't remember where I read this but... But apparently Leliana will speak of the Warden to the PC if she romanced him/her.
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