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[Spacemannegie]

According to lore, when a dwarf stays on the surface their magic resistance wears of over time.

 

How can Varric and the Dwarven Inquisitor still have magic resistance?

[aaarcher86]

First time I've heard that - where's it from?

 

ETA:  The Wiki: Dwarves who live on the surface for a long time (or who were born there) appear to gradually lose this resistance - however, there is still no recorded exception to their inability to learn spellcasting

 

Doesn't sound definite to me with the 'appear,' but for me it sounds like they go from 100% resistant to 80% or whatever. 

[Beerfish]

He handled the Red Lyrium idol and was in that deep roads area with red lyrium all over the place, which restored his magic resistance.  kind of like filling up a gas tank.

[Meltemph]

According to lore, when a dwarf stays on the surface their magic resistance wears of over time.

 

How can Varric and the Dwarven Inquisitor still have magic resistance?

Maybe "losing your stone sense" doesnt react the same for all dwarves? The lore seems to be pretty murky with this in general. also, is it confirmed that Cadash has never lived in Kal or Oz? But ya, more clarity or consistency of how losing your magic resistance for dwarves would be nice. Getting some solid lore here would be nice. So ya,  if we could get a set in stone(see what I did there) lore decision on this, since it seems very inconsistent(maybe dwarf resistance is inconsistent?) that would be great.

[Tevinter Soldier]

According to lore, when a dwarf stays on the surface their magic resistance wears of over time.

 

How can Varric and the Dwarven Inquisitor still have magic resistance?

 

game mechanic not plot hole, its to try and balance things.

[Spacemannegie]

To aaarcher86 : it's on the Wiki : http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf

[Meltemph]

game mechanic not plot hole, its to try and balance things.

Sort of, all other races mechanics can easily be explained away, but between DAO and even DA2(Betheny even infers Dwarves ARE more resistant to magic) there is enough lore there to notice the inconsistency, imo. Would be nice to get that finalized.

[aaarcher86]

To aaarcher86 : it's on the Wiki : http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf

 

Yeah.  I edited it into my first post with my thoughts on it.

[Rawgrim]

Sort of, all other races mechanics can easily be explained away, but between DAO and even DA2(Betheny even infers Dwarves ARE more resistant to magic) there is enough lore there to notice the inconsistency, imo. Would be nice to get that finalized.

 

Quite right. It certainly is bordering on being an actual plot-hole.

[Meltemph]

To aaarcher86 : it's on the Wiki : http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf

The references on that though are REALLY bad. I dont think there is anything concrete here for it being lore fact of how dwarves lose magic resistance. It still is murky at best, where dwarves are in this regard.

 

Edit: gotta be careful with everything that is stated in wiki's, they are a lot of the time(even the main wikpedia) are not referenced well at all.

[The Elder King]

According to lore, when a dwarf stays on the surface their magic resistance wears of over time.
 
How can Varric and the Dwarven Inquisitor still have magic resistance?

I think if was a thing affecting dwarves in the long run. After generations of dwarves in the surface The later offspring doesn't have The resistance.

[Tevinter Soldier]

Sort of, all other races mechanics can easily be explained away, but between DAO and even DA2(Betheny even infers Dwarves ARE more resistant to magic) there is enough lore there to notice the inconsistency, imo. Would be nice to get that finalized.

 

no i mean giving it to party members that shouldn't have it, is a game mechanic.

 

much like templars not being useless drug addicts was left out removing the resistance means they have to slot in something else for that character. so its balanced with the other party members.

 

it's just easier to give them the bonus, it doesn't mean they have it from an inverse POV.

[Meltemph]

no i mean giving it to party members that shouldn't have it, is a game mechanic.

 

much like templars not being useless drug addicts was left out removing the resistance means they have to slot in something else for that character. so its balanced with the other party members.

 

it's just easier to give them the bonus, it doesn't mean they have it from an inverse POV.

I get what you are sayng, but in this specific circumstance(normally I would be right there with you, honestly) it is a bit different, because they are giving him something that has been somewhat established in lore, that dwarves are more resistant to magic(even top-siders). That wiki that he linked is horribly referenced, so going by that doesnt help, but it would be nice to know how dwarven resistance actually works(is it tied to them living near lyrium or not).

[BigBad]

I'd take anything on the wiki with a grain of salt. It's usually a wonderful resource, but it is unofficial and run by fans and thus tends to include some fanon no matter how hard they try to extinguish it. When it comes to lore, unless they can cite a codex entry or developer quote, it's probably better to consider it an educated guess.

 

 

I suspect the developer position on dwarf magic resistance is: whatever the plot and gameplay considerations require.

[Meltemph]

I'd take anything on the wiki with a grain of salt. It's usually a wonderful resource, but it is unofficial and run by fans and thus tends to include some fanon no matter how hard they try to extinguish it. When it comes to lore, unless they can cite a codex entry or developer quote, it's probably better to consider it an educated guess.

 

 

I suspect the developer position on dwarf magic resistance is: whatever the plot and gameplay considerations require.

Eh, I dont think so. Gaider I believe has a bit of a soft spot for Dwarves, so I'm sure he has something in mind. Would make sense though if he wants to keep us guessing as to what causes Dwarf resistance, because I think the reasoning behind it would have some pretty interesting implications. But yes, I agree, the wiki rarely is referenced properly when dealing with issues like this.