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[SharpWalkers]

They're having us go down on a bull so what's the diff?

 

Well the Bull wants it. You'll have no idea what the horse & wagon think about it.

[9TailsFox]

Well the Bull wants it. You'll have no idea what the horse & wagon think about it.

[The Antagonist]

Bioware please implement hotgirlsexuality in da4. With the rise of feminism hotgirlsexuals like me are becoming persecuted and oppressed. Please bioware we need more representation in your games.

[WildOrchid]

This thread is going places.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Huh? And how is "call one either sexual or asexual" not labelling? Sometimes labelling can be useful. I find it useful for my friends to know I am asexual for example. 

Yep. For example having labels for certain things, orientations in this case, allow people to know there are others like them in the world and that they aren't alone or have something wrong or weird about them. 

[o Ventus]

If couples stay together until their boobs and nuts are droopy enough to hang to their knees, then I don't think they're idiots for having sex with unattractive people.  Sex isn't just about physical attraction.  Sometimes it is about comfort.

If a couple stays together for that long, then chances are they still find the other to be attractive. There's a reason they would have been together for so long.

[ThreeF]

Labeling is divisive.  It's ironic that some people require these terms to feel respected and yet it is the creation of terms that always divide and create a lack of respect as people fall back into the type of tribalism that evolution always seems to produce.

 

The more we do it, over a period of time we could very easily adapt into distinctions that could very easily change the world and not for the better.

 

I wish we were all just "humans".

Boxes are not only divisive they are also inclusive, people become a part of something and feel more secure, I guess.

 

(to make it clear though, I do not give a mouse's bum if one wants to use a label or if one doesn't, same thing to me)

[Benman1964]

Why not ask for 'fetish' also? :-)

[o Ventus]

Boxes are not only divisive they are also inclusive, people become a part of something and feel more secure, I guess.

And then shun and shoo away people who don't fit in the box, because when people come together to form a group, it inevitably becomes a clique full of a**holes instead.

[AresKeith]

Yep. For example having labels for certain things, orientations in this case, allow people to know there are others like them in the world and that they aren't alone or have something wrong or weird about them. 

 

But that goes back to the question I asked a couple days ago

 

How's that different from any other person though?

[ThreeF]

And then shun and shoo away people who don't fit in the box, because when people come together to form a group, it inevitably becomes a clique full of a**holes instead.

Yep, it happens with every clique, though, be it "straight" "gay" "lesbian" "bisexual" "lgbt+++++++". All have such a*holes.

 

(might sound silly) but I guess it's because there is some sort of subconscious need to protect that what you belong to or something like that.

[ThreeF]

Why not ask for 'fetish' also? :-)

 

 

and I don't think people actually asked....   did they?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

But that goes back to the question I asked a couple days ago

 

How's that different from any other person though?

I'm sorry. I missed that question. I'm still going through the last few pages to see if there are things I can reply to that haven't been addressed. 

 

The difference is mainly that unlike any other person, with the exception of asexuals, people who are demisexual do not experience primary sexual attraction, or attraction from immediate ques like looks, smell, social standing, wealth, etc. They only become sexually attracted once a strong bond is formed, whereas the other people you are referring to prefer to have that before things become sexual. So the other person in your case may choose to wait for that bond before getting sexual but is still sexually attracted to the person for whatever reason, whereas a demisexual is not sexually attracted at all, having about as much choice as a gay man being attracted to women, until said bond is formed. So really the difference is 'wiring' vs preference. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

*snip*

 

 

and I don't think people actually asked....   did they?

People have been asking for a Qunari Love Interest ever since Origins. 

[ThreeF]

People have been asking for a Qunari Love Interest ever since Origins. 

A kinky one?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

A kinky one?

Depends if they thought what Sten told Morrigan about Qunari sexual habits were true or just him trolling her. If the former, then yes. 

As for a kinky LI in general, people have asked for that. 

[9TailsFox]

People have been asking for a Qunari Love Interest ever since Origins. 

This^^

[Seraphim24]

I'm sorry. I missed that question. I'm still going through the last few pages to see if there are things I can reply to that haven't been addressed. 

 

The difference is mainly that unlike any other person, with the exception of asexuals, people who are demisexual do not experience primary sexual attraction, or attraction from immediate ques like looks, smell, social standing, wealth, etc. They only become sexually attracted once a strong bond is formed, whereas the other people you are referring to prefer to have that before things become sexual. So the other person in your case may choose to wait for that bond before getting sexual but is still sexually attracted to the person for whatever reason, whereas a demisexual is not sexually attracted at all, having about as much choice as a gay man being attracted to women, until said bond is formed. So really the difference is 'wiring' vs preference. 

 

Is it fair to call demisexuality kind of like the Disney ideal sexuality? As in, you actually adhere to the kind of romantic ideal where each person is waiting for and eventually finds the one and they have no prior interest or history with anyone else until the one and only the one?

[AresKeith]

I'm sorry. I missed that question. I'm still going through the last few pages to see if there are things I can reply to that haven't been addressed. 

 

The difference is mainly that unlike any other person, with the exception of asexuals, people who are demisexual do not experience primary sexual attraction, or attraction from immediate ques like looks, smell, social standing, wealth, etc. They only become sexually attracted once a strong bond is formed, whereas the other people you are referring to prefer to have that before things become sexual. So the other person in your case may choose to wait for that bond before getting sexual but is still sexually attracted to the person for whatever reason, whereas a demisexual is not sexually attracted at all, having about as much choice as a gay man being attracted to women, until said bond is formed. So really the difference is 'wiring' vs preference. 

 

Don't take this the wrong way, but this doesn't really convince me that this is seperate thing from other people. To me, this feel like something a good number of people do experience. They mostly don't feel sexually attracted to someone until they feel a strong emotional bond with that other person

[drummerchick]

Is it fair to call demisexuality kind of like the Disney ideal sexuality? As in, you actually adhere to the kind of romantic ideal where each person is waiting for and eventually finds the one and they have no prior interest or history with anyone else until the one and only the one?

-Someone please jump in and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't want to speak for anyone else-

As I understand it, demisexuality doesn't negate having multiple partners in life. A demisexual's relationship can sour and end just like anyone else's. So it's not really about 'waiting for the one.'
And lots of non-demisexuals do have that 'Disney ideal' where they want only one life-mate. That's just regular old preference, not a product of sexuality. 

[Meave]

it's not a preference, but custom. Considering how many people are cheating and were cheating I would say preference is not a monogamy... it probably started with cave man when they bashed other woman into head and dragged them to their cave and do it in front of their actual "wives" or sabertooth tigers, what had they

[Auztin]

I don't see why there are so many variations of sexuality when it is just slightly different or not different from another.Keep it simple 3-4 sexualitys.Asexual(though it can fit into one of later 3),Straight,Gay,& Bisexual.

[DomeWing333]

Don't take this the wrong way, but this doesn't really convince me that this is seperate thing from other people. To me, this feel like something a good number of people do experience. They mostly don't feel sexually attracted to someone until they feel a strong emotional bond with that other person

 

I would say that the vast majority of people (particularly men) are able to feel primary sexual attraction or "lust" towards a complete stranger. They enjoy pornography, check people out in public, and have fantasies involving celebrities that they've never met. Generally, we see this as "normal" sexuality.

 

Then there are people who don't experience those things. People for whom pornography does nothing, have no interest in sexually evaluating strangers at the mall, and only find Ryan Gosling handsome from a purely aesthetic viewpoint. Typically, we might label these people as "asexual."

 

However, a subset of those people are not entirely asexual because while they don't exhibit the "normal" sexual behaviors I described, they do find those with whom they have close emotional bonds to be sexually attractive. This is what's being referred to here as "demisexual."

 

Now that being said, I don't think "demisexuality" needs to be entirely distinct from standard sexuality, just as bisexuality doesn't need to be entirely distinct from heterosexuality. Like most things, there's probably a gradient and people might fall anywhere between not having emotional bonds be a threshold for sexual attraction at all and having emotional bonds be the only thing determining sexual attraction.

[AWTEW]

I would say that the vast majority of people (particularly men) are able to feel primary sexual attraction or "lust" towards a complete stranger. They enjoy pornography, check people out in public, and have fantasies involving celebrities that they've never met. Generally, we see this as "normal" sexuality.

 

Then there are people who don't experience those things. People for whom pornography does nothing, have no interest in sexually evaluating strangers at the mall, and only find Ryan Gosling handsome from a purely aesthetic viewpoint. Typically, we might label these people as "asexual."

 

However, a subset of those people are not entirely asexual because while they don't exhibit the "normal" sexual behaviors I described, they do find those with whom they have close emotional bonds to be sexually attractive. This is what's being referred to here as "demisexual."

 

Now that being said, I don't think "demisexuality" needs to be entirely distinct from standard sexuality, just as bisexuality doesn't need to be entirely distinct from heterosexuality. Like most things, there's probably a gradient and people might fall anywhere between not having emotional bonds be a threshold for sexual attraction at all and having emotional bonds be the only thing determining sexual attraction.

 

Porn is not normal, porn is deter mental to men,women, and greater society. Do not lump Porn in with normal behaviour, because by doing so your indirectly saying that the effects of it are normal too, that the abuse and behaviour it encourages are normal.

[Seraphim24]

Porn is not normal, porn is deter mental to men,women, and greater society. Do not lump Porn in with normal behaviour, because by doing so your indirectly saying that the effects of it are normal too, that the abuse and behaviour it encourages are normal.

 

No, he/she simply said that pornography is normally consumed by most people, more generally the point was most people can feel lust at times towards all kinds of people/multiple people without necessarily having met or talked extensively, gotten to know each other, etc,

 

I'm guessing (since sex is such a forbidden topic, guessing kind of wildly) that most people probably fall in the middle somewhere, periodic lust towards a variety of people but it's not limitless, it can be driven or limited by standards of attraction and all kinds of things. I think that most people are quite carnal, and yet I also know people who have never had an orgasm by 23 so.. /shrug.

 

 

-Someone please jump in and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't want to speak for anyone else-

As I understand it, demisexuality doesn't negate having multiple partners in life. A demisexual's relationship can sour and end just like anyone else's. So it's not really about 'waiting for the one.'
And lots of non-demisexuals do have that 'Disney ideal' where they want only one life-mate. That's just regular old preference, not a product of sexuality. 

 

Well.... ok... but then what is the distinction exactly? By this model a demisexual could be theoretically forming rather rapid connections based on a series of emotional bonds and actually be quite promiscuous and otherwise sexually active.

 

It kind of hinges on what "emotional bond" means, does that mean like, deep inter-personal connection and knowledge about the person in all facets of their life? Can emotional bonds be related to physical desires? The fact that looks and other things were set aside in favor of "emotional bond" I guess just leads me to believe it cannot be based on physical elements. Perhaps it's simply a temporal limitation... a requirement that sexual attraction can only occur after an extended duration..