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Porn is not normal, porn is deter mental to men,women, and greater society. Do not lump Porn in with normal behaviour, because by doing so your indirectly saying that the effects of it are normal too, that the abuse and behaviour it encourages are normal.

Please tell me you're joking.  Forgive the statement, but it's been that kind of week on the forums.


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Porn is not normal, porn is deter mental to men,women, and greater society. Do not lump Porn in with normal behaviour, because by doing so your indirectly saying that the effects of it are normal too, that the abuse and behaviour it encourages are normal.

 

... What in God's name are you saying?



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Yep. For example having labels for certain things, orientations in this case, allow people to know there are others like them in the world and that they aren't alone or have something wrong or weird about them. 

 

Why do you need others to acknowledge your sexuality to not be alone?  Are you only friends with other demisexuals or something?

 

Seriously we place WAY too much emphasis on our sexuality these days.  What about those who are paralyzed from the waist down or can't have sex?  How do they feel in a world that is hypersexual?  Do they feel alone, left out?


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Porn is becoming normal but it does screw up some relationships.  I've known many people who have a hard time trying to reproduce that level of "enthusiasm" and it makes them feel their relationships (which should be about more than sex) are blah.


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Porn is becoming normal but it does screw up some relationships.  I've known many people who have a hard time trying to reproduce that level of "enthusiasm" and it makes them feel their relationships (which should be about more than sex) are blah.

 

"Becoming normal"

 

For what reason would porn be abnormal? Porn isn't screwing anyone's relationship, it's the unhealthy ways people interact with the porn that does it. Over-the-counter drugs aren't inherently bad, but they're potentially lethal if abused.


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"Becoming normal"

 

For what reason would porn be abnormal? Porn isn't screwing anyone's relationship, it's the unhealthy ways people interact with the porn that does it. Over-the-counter drugs aren't inherently bad, but they're potentially lethal if abused.

 

I see nothing wrong with porn itself. What I see is that there are a lot of inexperienced people (like my husband) who actually thought porn was realistic and that was actually how to please your partner. I've had to teach him how to please a woman because of that. I also think watching porn WITH your partner can be healthy and very fun. Also watching porn on your own and masturbating are not unhealthy even if you are in a relationship. I don't do it but it's just not my thing. If my husband wanted to I'd see no issues. 

 

The only time I'd have problems with someone watching porn is if they start to prefer masturbating over sex with their partner. If your partner is there and willing you should ALWAYS choose your partner, end of story. Other than that, is porn "Normal" as in demonstrative of what real sex is like? Not really. Is it "Normal" as in something people do? Sure. 


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Hmm almost tempted to post a link up here but not sure if its goes agaisnt the sites rules or not so be airing on the side of caution but it was pretty much a informative webcomic that I greatly enjoy reading and the strip of theirs they did (well one of them anyway) discussing a certain porn site (just wanted to clarify it was a positive strip on the site) it was very well done. On another note what is going on in this thread? :blink:


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"Becoming normal"

 

For what reason would porn be abnormal? Porn isn't screwing anyone's relationship, it's the unhealthy ways people interact with the porn that does it. Over-the-counter drugs aren't inherently bad, but they're potentially lethal if abused.

 

Oh I forgot which forum I was on.  I can't speak casually here.  I meant, widespread.  Sorry about that.



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Oh I forgot which forum I was on.  I can't speak casually here.  I meant, widespread.  Sorry about that.

Widespread instead of normal doesn't really change anything. If anything, that actually makes it a weaker point. Porn has been widespread for a while.



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I wonder if there is cavemen porn. :ph34r:


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I wonder if there is cavemen porn. :ph34r:

 

Is or was? Because I'm pretty sure there's WAY more caveman porn out there now than there was back during cavemen times.


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I wonder if there is cavemen porn. :ph34r:

 

With the internet anything is possible.


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I wonder if there is cavemen porn. :ph34r:

A lot of cave art is actually hypothesized to be crudely drawn prehistoric pornography. Same goes for those Venus statuettes.

 

paleolithic-fertility-statue-venus-of-wi

 

these things.


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Is or was? Because I'm pretty sure there's WAY more caveman porn out there now than there was back during cavemen times.

Indeed, but mostly I'm  wondering whenever there are some drawings left on some cave's wall from that time or something like that.

 

 

 

A lot of cave art is actually hypothesized to be crudely drawn prehistoric pornography. Same goes for those Venus statuettes.

 

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these things.

I've been taught that these things were made in this way to emphasize on fertility rather than being porn porn.



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I wonder if there is cavemen porn. :ph34r:

 

I'm pretty sure they're the reason porn exist in the first place lol :P


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So this is the porn thread now? 

 

I don't mind...


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I wonder if there is cavemen porn. :ph34r:

 

Cultural Anthropologists theorize that couples used to copulate in front of single adults to encourage them to find a partner as soon as possible. Basically "hey, yeah, this turn you on? If you go grab that person over there you can have this kinda thing too ya know!" 


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Cultural Anthropologists theorize that couples used to copulate in front of single adults to encourage them to find a partner as soon as possible. Basically "hey, yeah, this turn you on? If you go grab that person over there you can have this kinda thing too ya know!" 

 

In my head, it was more "Hey Unk, here's a couple wolf pelts. Mind if me and the rest of the village watch you and Unga go at it?"


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My guess about sex in the stone age is it was basically an in-discriminatory orgy of insane proportions, they might not have made porn but they probably just lived it..

 

It would be interesting to learn that it was in fact the exact opposite though....

 

...anyway, hopefully this can relate back to demisexuality at some point.. still kind of trying to understand it better..



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In my head, it was more "Hey Unk, here's a couple wolf pelts. Mind if me and the rest of the village watch you and Unga go at it?"

 Das Hawt. XD



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I wonder if there is cavemen porn. :ph34r:

 

Yeah. The IB romance arc.


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Widespread instead of normal doesn't really change anything. If anything, that actually makes it a weaker point. Porn has been widespread for a while.

 

Yeh, no.  Maybe in some circles but not all.



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Why do you need others to acknowledge your sexuality to not be alone?  Are you only friends with other demisexuals or something?

 

Seriously we place WAY too much emphasis on our sexuality these days.  What about those who are paralyzed from the waist down or can't have sex?  How do they feel in a world that is hypersexual?  Do they feel alone, left out?

You misunderstand. By not being alone, I am referring to knowing that there are other people like you out in the world.

 

They very well could, yes. Asexuals and demisexuals feel like the odd ones out in this hypersexualized world, so people who can't for any reason may feel that way as well. 


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Indeed, but mostly I'm  wondering whenever there are some drawings left on some cave's wall from that time or something like that.

 

 

I've been taught that these things were made in this way to emphasize on fertility rather than being porn porn.

And the way fertility was worshipped by having sex, at least in some prehistoric peoples and early cultures. The entire idea is to evoke feelings of sexual desire and lust, similar to today's standard pornography. I don't know if this is the most common hypothesis or not though.

 

The statues are the ancient peoples way of saying "god wants you to have a lot of sex, right now."



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Why do you need others to acknowledge your sexuality to not be alone?  Are you only friends with other demisexuals or something?

 

Seriously we place WAY too much emphasis on our sexuality these days.  What about those who are paralyzed from the waist down or can't have sex?  How do they feel in a world that is hypersexual?  Do they feel alone, left out?

There's nothing better than having a majority member lecture a minority about their minority issues. Did it ever cross your mind that it's not important to you because you have no reason for it to be important? Everyone and everything around you is constantly validating your existence, so of course this is inconsequential to you. Rather than preaching your psuedo free love, perhaps you should try being empathetic enough to understand why people feel the way they do rather than just writing off the opinions of people who are actually living the experience with your straightsplaining.


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