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[Rizilliant]

sigh...

 

Who needs combat and story.. We should just get a romance simulator!  Good gawd, how much more "representation" can possibly exist!?

-We need a black male, straight.. Black male Bi.. Black male gay.. Black male demi.. Black male A sexual..

Now White male straight... White male Bi...White male gay.. White male demi.. White male A sex...

Black female straight.. black female bi...black female gay...Black female demi..Black female A sex..

White female

Blue..

Purple..

Asian..

Hispanic..

Korean..\

Qunari...

 

Oops, we forgot to represent the animal kingdom, and completely different species throughout the universe.. And each and every one, must have multiple romance options...

 

See where this is going? Look at the list of very niche demands being "suggested" from just this game alone! I say suggested, but we know thats in all honesty, a passive aggressive demand.. Complete with signed petition of angry liberals if not met... Cant we just have games? Why do we insist on draggin  our real life problems into them? I thought we gamed to escape real life problems.. Yet were forced to deal with them in our gaming.. Where does it end?

[Vanth]

Why can't I have a furrysexual companion/romance option?

 

LMAO.

 

You do have Blackwall.

[TheRatPack55]

sigh...

 

Who needs combat and story.. We should just get a romance simulator!  Good gawd, how much more "representation" can possibly exist!?

-We need a black male, straight.. Black male Bi.. Black male gay.. Black male demi.. Black male A sexual..

Now White male straight... White male Bi...White male gay.. White male demi.. White male A sex...

Black female straight.. black female bi...black female gay...Black female demi..Black female A sex..

White female

Blue..

Purple..

Asian..

Hispanic..

Korean..\

Qunari...

 

Oops, we forgot to represent the animal kingdom, and completely different species throughout the universe.. And each and every one, must have multiple romance options...

 

See where this is going? Look at the list of very niche demands being "suggested" from just this game alone! I say suggested, but we know thats in all honesty, a passive aggressive demand.. Complete with signed petition of angry liberals if not met... Cant we just have games? Why do we insist on draggin  our real life problems into them? I thought we gamed to escape real life problems.. Yet were forced to deal with them in our gaming.. Where does it end?

 

I agree with the principle of what you're saying, however I have to play devil's advocate and note that while people generally do play to escape from real world problems, a - for example - homosexual person starting up a game and finding out they are forced to play a heterosexual character because homosexuality is just not represented encounters one of their real life problems rather then escapes from them.

 

That said, I do think that representation in Inquisition at least is sufficient. There is no way to cater to all tastes, and I think DAI it is fairly flexible in its options, so that most everyone can find something that appeals to them at least a little.

[Seraphim24]

Bingo.

 

Well said, bro.

 

Now I'm just going to throw my two cents in -- as has been stated time and time again, there is far too much labelling going on, and far too much focus on said labels.

 

I'm not saying that I believe demisexuality is a fairy tale or a myth; I do believe in it, to a certain degree. I just put it down to the fact that everybody has their own way of doing things, when it comes to sex, romance, relationships and what not. For instance, you have people who will get it on with anybody, and perhaps, may not even care about primary sexual attraction. They just want sex, just want to get off, and it's as simple as that.

 

Then you have people who won't get it on with somebody until they are emotionally attached, and have gotten to know somebody.

 

Plus, there is all sorts of in between...

 

At the end of the day, it's down to how the individual is wired. It is what it is, and quite frankly, all of these labels are going a bit overboard.

 

I'm a lesbian.. so I get homosexuality. I clearly get heterosexuality, as it is the "norm". I completely understand asexuality too.. however, there are other "sexual orientation" labels coming forth, and accompanying this, is a need and a desire for "representation" in media.

 

I'll repeat something else; you can most certainly "headcanon" a demisexual orientation, if need be. Thanks to the Anders clusterfuck, you now have to work your butt off to impress, and somewhat get to know your LI in DA:I. Save for a couple of rare cases, your LI doesn't really seem to give two tosses, nor do they want to jump your bones straight away...

 

Also, we must remember the main focus of these games -- there is a storyline, which revolves around Thedas. Sexual relationships and romance only take up approx. five percent of these games at best. (Rough estimation, not set-in-stone. Thought I'd better mention that.) DA is not a dating sim created to fulfill our sexual and romantic (or lack thereof) desires. It is just a bit of fun on the side (pun not intended) to add something different, and interesting into the mix, besides the killing of enemies and the fantasy-based story.

 

I must know what magic spell you cast, because I tried saying the same thing in the gay KISA thread and was promptly vilified... it seems like this was the solution from the very beginning...

[Zerc]

Well, at least it's not a thread demanding that agender people get to be represented in a future title. Humans...

[Zerc]

Oh don't worry, it'll come...

 

This species destruction cannot come soon enough.

[TheRatPack55]

This species destruction cannot come soon enough.

 

Not really on the basis of this particular thread, but amen to that.

[Rannik]

Loving this thread.

[Namea]

While I probably agree with you from my personal point of view, I feel that blanket statement to be a little judgemental. If someone prefers watching porn to having real sex, why shouldn't they? Different strokes for different folks I say. Let people be who they want to be rather than forcing them to be someone they are not. 

 

Because at that point you've gone from just using porn to letting it control you to the point of neglecting your partner at which point it might be a genuine addiction. It doesn't happen often but it DOES happen. Imagine being the partner, your spouse would rather go jack it instead of being intimate with you. That sure as heck would make me feel bad. 

[Namea]

Um...

 

If that happens. Then you're not doing it right.

 

Not necessarily. Sometimes it's not really a reflection on the partner but rather an actual problem. The partner will feel bad and assume it's a reflection on them anyway. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Well, given that Dragon Age is becoming less and less of a game and more of a dating simulator ....Why not ?

 

DA 4 :- 6 abilities in combat lock + 2 specializations per class + 12 romance options. 

[AWTEW]

It increases obesity and risk for diabetes, so yeah, prolonged exposure to chocolate does indeed spread disease. In fact the diseases associated with excessive chocolate consumption are some of the most deadly we have. Guess what? Eating chocolate is still normal and fine in moderation. Hell, it's fine in occasional excess.

Also, how the hell does exposure to pornography spread disease? It'll spread viruses, sure, but that's only if you're downloading....



If the chocolate-eating of one partner were vilified by the other, instead of just accepted as a normal activity that people engage in...



Are you going to cite something to support your implication that pornography increases sexual violence? Because here's my citation arguing against that. Also this nifty little tidbit:

In a two-wave legalization process, Denmark, a small Scandinavian country, became the first country in the world to legalize pornography. In 1967, all pornographic text material was legalized, followed by the legalization of all visual pornography in 1969 (Hald, 2007). Both before and after this legalization process, the effects of pornography were hotly debated. Consequently, immediately after legalization, research was launched to investigate the effects of pornography predominantly on sexually aggressive behaviors. Correlational research at the aggregate level connecting the circulation of pornography with sexual aggression was used (for critique of this approach, see also Kingston & Malamuth, 2011). The results showed a decline in sexual aggression after the legalization of pornography (Kutchinsky, 1991), which was taken as an indication that pornography probably did not adversely affect sexually aggressive behaviors and perhaps even worked as a buffer against them.[/size]



Everything changes the structure of your brain. The "rewiring" that your little video talks about is nothing more than the brain reacting to any kind of reinforcement learning. Studying math rewires your brain. Learning to play an instrument rewires your brain. Playing video games rewires your brain! Oh and look a handful of inconclusive studies that vaguely associate video games with violence! Down with video games!



You're actually going to claim that pornography makes people pedophiles. Really? I mean, really? I'm not even going to dignify that by asking for a citation I know doesn't exist.

Aww yeahhah, your post just won me a bet, got me $50 thx

[DomeWing333]

Aww yeahhah, your post just won me a bet, got me $50 thx

 

Oh thank god. This means you were completely joking, right? And the post quoting The Gospel Coalition website word for word was just trolling and not intended to be taken seriously whatsoever? 'Cause, man, Poe's Law is hard to work here.

[Vanth]

Because at that point you've gone from just using porn to letting it control you to the point of neglecting your partner at which point it might be a genuine addiction. It doesn't happen often but it DOES happen. Imagine being the partner, your spouse would rather go jack it instead of being intimate with you. That sure as heck would make me feel bad. 

I'm sure not everyone feels exactly the same way as you. Personally it wouldn't bother me.

[AWTEW]

Oh thank god. This means you were completely joking, right? And the post quoting The Gospel Coalition website word for word was just trolling and not intended to be taken seriously whatsoever? 'Cause, man, Poe's Law is hard to work here.

Yup, and now I'm $50 richer.

Although, anyform of addiction is unhealthy kids,

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Did not expect there to be a pornography discussion on this thread. 

[Angry_Elcor]

For those against the idea or concept, can you please go away rather than be mean? Or at least be constructive.

 

What is considered constructive varies widely from person to person around here. I would be willing to bet that a lot of the posts by people not supporting the idea are considered constructive by others. You're the one who started the conversation. Now, you're telling everyone who doesn't support your idea to go away? Forums don't really work that way.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What is considered constructive varies widely from person to person around here. I would be willing to bet that a lot of the posts by people not supporting the idea are considered constructive by others. You're the one who started the conversation. Now, you're telling everyone who doesn't support your idea to go away? Forums don't really work that way.

No, I am not doing that. I am asking the people who were going against the site rules by being mean to others to please not do that. One can be constructive yet not agree. It's called constructive criticism. 

[Steelcan]

Did not expect there to be a pornography discussion on this thread. 

something something rule 34

[Angry_Elcor]

Porn is not normal, porn is deter mental to men,women, and greater society. Do not lump Porn in with normal behaviour, because by doing so your indirectly saying that the effects of it are normal too, that the abuse and behaviour it encourages are normal.

 

Porn has never abused me. But your posts leave bruises on my brain.

 

Plus I have a thing about porn being normalised, and it's harmful psychological affects on teenagers. Men in particular are affected by it

 

'Sexually explicit material triggers mirror neurons in the male brain. These neurons, which are involved with the process for how to mimic a behavior, contain a motor system that correlates to the planning out of a behavior.  In the case of pornography, this mirror neuron system triggers the arousal, which leads to sexual tension and a need for an outlet. “The unfortunate reality is that when he acts out (often by masturbating), this leads to hormonal and neurological consequences, which are designed to bind him to the object he is focising on.

 

This is one big, steamy pile of judgmental, bat-sh*t crazy nonsense. Masturbation is harmful to teenage boys? Wow. So the AMA, CMA, EMA, and every psychological researcher of the last 30 years is wrong because some self-important deluded online activist read something on the internet somewhere that supported a prejudice they have?

 

Good thing boys around the world have you to save them from their own sexuality.

[Angry_Elcor]

No, I am not doing that. I am asking the people who were going against the site rules by being mean to others to please not do that.

 

You asked people who disagreed with your idea to go away. Which is not how forums work.