well the whole example was poorly constructed.
a) guys 1-3 were talking about some random woman from a commercial
guy 4 suddenly changes subject and feel the need to point out that he has a husband (really? why wouldn't he just say John?)
c) if next commercial would be about some man and guy 4 would mention that this man is hot or dreamy or whatever guys 1-3 would probably be ok with it...
Heterosexuals talk about it all the time. Straight dudes talk about their gfs or hot women and straight women about their bfs or hot men. They talk about it on tv a lot. In movies, shows, games, books, magazines, even the damn news about Putin finding a new gf (VOMIT), or Berlusconi's women (VOMIT x2) or Merkel's "adventures" (VOMIT x3) and every politician/actor/singer's personal life.
they are not talking about their sexuality, they are talking about women they're seeing. They don't say "dude, I am straight, I would totally do her..."
they are not talking about their sexuality, they are talking about women they're seeing. They don't say "dude, I am straight, I would totally do her..."
They don't have to mention they're straight in order to do it
Yawn.
How often to straight guys say "my wife"?
hmmm never when speaking to friends whom know his wife by her name?
they are not talking about their sexuality, they are talking about women they're seeing. They don't say "dude, I am straight, I would totally do her..."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
I'd apologize again, Hanako, but it would just seem hollow at this point.
You can hate me Hanako. You can hate me all you want.
they are not talking about their sexuality, they are talking about women they're seeing. They don't say "dude, I am straight, I would totally do her..."
And what Ares said.
Because everyone assumes you're heterosexual by "default". But when a gay guy talks about boys, heterosexual be like "Woah, you're gay????"
Pls.
hmmm never when speaking to friends whom know his wife by her name?
I can't tell if your trolling or what
It's a bit a different case for heterosexuals, because our society tend to consider everyone heterosexual until proved otherwise.
Mainly because (and pay attention, because some of you will get highly offended if you don't pay attention) heterosexuality is the biological norm. Animals mate to reproduce in nature, and though homosexuality does occur, it's technically a biological mutation, an abnormal thing in nature. We assume everyone's heterosexual until proven otherwise because that's the biological, deep-rooted norm for our very own species. Heterosexuality is natural, homosexuality isn't. That's why it's more expected, and more common, for heterosexuality to be the norm in media and games, because it's nature's norm, and we as as any other animal view it as the normal and "expected" occurrence until we take a different mindset or it is proven otherwise. It may be, in my opinion, why some of these things feel "shoehorned". We expect the natural, and differentiating from that is viewed "unnatural" by our own human chemistry. It's deep-rooted stuff that's just a part of our evolution and our species in the natural order of things.
That isn't an insult, it isn't meant to be insulting or degrading or anything of the sort, it's just a statement of scientific fact.
They don't have to mention they're straight in order to do it
well now you have a problem with entire language. They don't say they are hetero, but you hear it anyway so hmm whose problem is that?
Mainly because (and pay attention, because some of you will get highly offended if you don't pay attention) heterosexuality is the biological norm. Animals mate to reproduce in nature, and though homosexuality does occur, it's technically a biological mutation, an abnormal thing in nature. We assume everyone's heterosexual until proven otherwise because that's the biological, deep-rooted norm for our very own species. Heterosexuality is natural, homosexuality isn't. That's why it's more expected, and more common, for heterosexuality to be the norm in media and games, because it's nature's norm.
That isn't an insult, it isn't meant to be insulting or degrading or anything of the sort, it's just a statement of scientific fact.
Mutations are natural. Let's leave it at that because your rhetoric, which I've been dusting off, is getting me a little riled now.
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Heterosexuality is natural, homosexuality isn't.
That's not anyone's fault though when someone or something is the majority. It's like assuming in the US that everyone speaks English even though we have a strong minority Spanish contingent. Humans just go with what is the norm.
I honestly believe most people are good people who don't want to hurt others and can be gently, kindly educated to live peacefully and with kindness to others without a lecture but with "fun".
Thich Nat Hanh is able to get people to welcome others with compassion without telling them how stupid they are for believing A or how evil they are for being/doing B. People respond to love.
Even dark-hearted bitches like me.
I'm trying to figure out your thought process. What it being anyone fault has to do with what I wrote? And are you suggesting that things should be as they are because "majority" and "people are nice"? I'm really confused.
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Mainly because (and pay attention, because some of you will get highly offended if you don't pay attention) heterosexuality is the biological norm. Animals mate to reproduce in nature, and though homosexuality does occur, it's technically a biological mutation, an abnormal thing in nature. We assume everyone's heterosexual until proven otherwise because that's the biological, deep-rooted norm for our very own species. Heterosexuality is natural, homosexuality isn't. That's why it's more expected, and more common, for heterosexuality to be the norm in media and games, because it's nature's norm, and we as as any other animal view it as the normal and "expected" occurrence until we take a different mindset or it is proven otherwise.
That isn't an insult, it isn't meant to be insulting or degrading or anything of the sort, it's just a statement of scientific fact.
Yup. There are always going to be people who find statements like that offensive, but it's true.
well now you have a problem with entire language. They don't say they are hetero, but you hear it anyway so hmm whose problem is that?
Considering I'm also hetero I would know
Mainly because (and pay attention, because some of you will get highly offended if you don't pay attention) heterosexuality is the biological norm. Animals mate to reproduce in nature, and though homosexuality does occur, it's technically a biological mutation, an abnormal thing in nature. We assume everyone's heterosexual until proven otherwise because that's the biological, deep-rooted norm for our very own species. Heterosexuality is natural, homosexuality isn't. That's why it's more expected, and more common, for heterosexuality to be the norm in media and games, because it's nature's norm, and we as as any other animal view it as the normal and "expected" occurrence until we take a different mindset or it is proven otherwise.
That isn't an insult, it isn't meant to be insulting or degrading or anything of the sort, it's just a statement of scientific fact.
well the whole example was poorly constructed.
a) guys 1-3 were talking about some random woman from a commercial
c) if next commercial would be about some man and guy 4 would mention that this man is hot or dreamy or whatever guys 1-3 would probably be ok with it...
Well, I have this one gay friend who has a slight weight problem. 
So people don't always realize he's gay because he never has a boyfriend to talk about. I handed him off to this group of marines to hang out with one night and I forgot to tell them he was gay. I realized later I had sent this poor kid out and that maybe not everyone is "me" so I rush over to the party and he's hanging out having a great time and later they were talking about getting him into shape and I mentioned to one that he was "gay" and he goes, "Yeh, we found that out."
I asked "how?"
The commercial for "Thor2" came on and he mentioned that Hemsworth was "dreamy".
Because they had spent the whole night talking about women and boobs and he laughed and joked with him, they didn't think to be "grunt-neanderthal-y" with him and got to like him before the Thor2 commercial came on. After that, they just dealt with the gay thing.
I think that if more straight dudes were exposed to gay guys as just "guys" maybe they'd have less issue when the husband/boyfriend etc topic comes up.
Sorry beer driven musings...
So demisexuality...yeh...sounds great.
Mutations are natural. Let's leave it at that because your rhetoric, which I've been dusting off, is getting me a little riled now.
Mutations do occur, but they're called "mutations" because they differ, either greatly or not greatly, from the biological norm.
Again, no insults, no rudeness, just pure scientific fact on the question. Though it seems the SJWs are biting back with plenty of force on this thread. Yowza. Let's not argue it further. Someone asked something and I made a reply.
If you think my statement is false, then remember that two desires are present in animal life across the board, in all animals; self-preservation and reproduction. Reproduction can only naturally occur with opposing sexes. This is why, AGAIN, NO INSULTING INTENDED, homosexuality is not IN THE STRICTEST SCIENTIFIC TERMS the natural occurrence, because it invalidates our reproductive desire.
This is why many in general see the addition of homosexuality into things as "new" or "not normal", because according to our own genetic wiring, it isn't normal.
Can I stress to the mods that this is NOT MEANT AS AN INSULT?
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Mutations are natural. Let's leave it at that because your rhetoric, which I've been dusting off, is getting me a little riled now.
Yes, but they said the natural norm. That's the difference.
I can't tell if your trolling or what
why would I be trolling? you talk about your wife being your wife if you're talking to a stranger, but you talk about her as xy(insert name) when talking to your friends (or if you're newly wed)
Mainly because (and pay attention, because some of you will get highly offended if you don't pay attention) heterosexuality is the biological norm. Animals mate to reproduce in nature, and though homosexuality does occur, it's technically a biological mutation, an abnormal thing in nature. We assume everyone's heterosexual until proven otherwise because that's the biological, deep-rooted norm for our very own species. Heterosexuality is natural, homosexuality isn't. That's why it's more expected, and more common, for heterosexuality to be the norm in media and games, because it's nature's norm, and we as as any other animal view it as the normal and "expected" occurrence until we take a different mindset or it is proven otherwise.
That isn't an insult, it isn't meant to be insulting or degrading or anything of the sort, it's just a statement of scientific fact.
You f00ked it... literally and figuratively.
>says we are abnormal, mutants
>says it's not an insult.
But ofc i wouldn't expect anything different from the dude who posted a hysterical rant in the Sera thread which didn't make sense at all.
Yes, but they said the natural norm. That's the difference.
No, he said "Heterosexuality is natural, homosexuality isn't". I understand "norm" versus "natural". Homosexuality isn't the norm. But it is natural.
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You f00ked it... literally and figuratively.
>says we are abnormal, mutants
>says it's not an insult.
But ofc i wouldn't expect anything different from the dude who posted a hysterical rant in the Sera thread which didn't make sense at all.
This user's opinions differ from mine greatly, but he isn't being insulting.
I have a mood disorder. Why? Because of a mutation in my genes. It's not biologically normal. That is in no way an insult. It's scientific fact.
You f00ked it... literally and figuratively.
>says we are abnormal, mutants
>says it's not an insult.
But ofc i wouldn't expect anything different from the dude who posted a hysterical rant in the Sera thread which didn't make sense at all.
How is it insulting to say you're abnormal?
We're all abnormal. We all do things that go against what nature and evolution wired into us. It isn't insulting, it's science. Ask a biologist or any studier of human nature or biology, and he/she will tell you that homosexuality is an abnormality. Any outside or internal change on human behavior and animalistic tendencies is abnormal. It's PC society that's caused the word "abnormal" to be deemed "offensive", even when I don't mean ANY insult at all. It's why terms like "fat" or "retarded", which used to be standard-fare medical terminology, have been changed. Because people deemed them insulting even when not used that way. I'm only stating what scientific law itself states.
No, he said "Heterosexuality is natural, homosexuality isn't". I understand "norm" versus "natural". Homosexuality isn't the norm. But it is natural.
My bad on the wording.
It's natural in the sense it occurs in nature, yes, but those times it does it's a scientific abnormality, because human beings have an innate, deeper-than-all-else desire for self-preservation and reproduction. It's a fact of evolution itself, and it's one we cannot escape. Certainly humans can have different sexual tastes, and that's fine. No insult to them at all. But in the most basic, strict terms, homosexuality is abnormal to the human species. That ISN'T AN INSULT, it's just why people think of an individual as heterosexual until proven otherwise.
We f00king live in 2015. People need to stop assuming everyone is "heterosexual until proven otherwise". Seriously.
We f00king live in 2015. People need to stop assuming everyone is "heterosexual until proven otherwise". Seriously.
Censorship and thought control will always fail. People will think and say and feel how they want. Sorry to break it to ya' chump.
You know what, I'm not offended at the notion of homosexuality being a mutation.
Mutations are a thing. They occur all the time in nature. Which means they are natural.
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