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[ThreeF]

Promiscuity in the day of AIDS, hep C, and herpes is pretty much playing Russian Roulette with your life and health.  I work in international public health for JHU.  I've had programs in Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Malawi for AIDS awareness.  Condoms break.  That's why we are not allowed to say "Safe Sex" only "Safer Sex" when discussing condoms.

 

In fact, we actually teach abstinence hand in hand with condoms, something we'd **** bricks about in the US, because the death rate in Africa is nowhere near where it should be for AIDS, it's getting there, but still not where it should be.

 

I realize that we like to live in a judgment free zone and I personally believe people should be able to risk their life IF they choose, but we do not live in a zone where we should be dishonest about the dangers of certain behavior.

 

Promiscuity is not healthy behavior.

By your definition having sex is not healthy behavior.

 

So I don't know... hello hand?

[WildOrchid]

Promiscuity is not healthy behavior.

 

If someone is careful, it can be healthy.

Then again someone might lie so there's that possibility as well.

[Zobert]

You should PM me with details. I live for these sorts of talks.

 

 

 

I'm still struggling to understand where promiscuity and morality are inherently against one another. I can understand morality and cheating, but the two don't mean the same thing.

 

Speaking as someone who probably comes off as being very SJWery, and is very sex positive in general, the idea is to be happy in the skin  you're in. I'm not promiscuous. I don't share partners, I live and die by monogamy, and I go very long periods of time between partners when I'm not with someone. Not one SJW person has told me to start opening my legs for every willing person that comes by, only that I don't get my panties in a wad if someone else does. And I don't. I expect all ethical humans to live by the safe, sane and consensual rule. Sex isn't a pox on society, it's a natural urge that different people have differing drives for. So long as the partners are of age and play by the same rules, I fail to see the inherent immorality.

 

 

IF we lived in a disease free zone and IF we lived in a world like True Liar were no one could lie to each other than there is nothing inherently immoral about promiscuity.

 

We just don't live there. 

 

One in four teens has an STD in western nations by the time they hit 20.  There are close to a million abortions each year--not debating abortion, debating BC failure rates.  The more sexual partners a female has in her lifetime her chances for ovarian cancer increase.

 

When you contribute to the poor health of others with your behavior there is something inherently immoral about that.  We don't live in stupidity.  We know about HIV transmission, HPV transmission, Herpes transmission, and a host of other diseases.  Being party to the continuation of disease is not moral.

[ThreeF]

If someone is careful, it can be healthy.

Then again someone might lie so there's that possibility as well.

it very much boils down to being a responsible person, regardless of how many sexual partners you change or have/had.

[Handsome Jack]

If someone is careful, it can be healthy.

Then again someone might lie so there's that possibility as well.

 

It isn't healthy. It's proven to be the exact opposite.

[Zobert]

By your definition having sex is not healthy behavior.

 

So I don't know... hello hand?

 

No.  I get HIV tested, disease tested regularly.  I have responsible talks with my SO or anyone else I am going to sexually partner with and I am always aware of the dangers.

 

Most people are not that paranoid though they should be.

[Raiil]

It's the stupid logic: "One "so-called with a title" idiot does something bad, then the rest of them are 100% bad as well". It's the same logic that applies to rapists and or feminists. "Most men are rapists, so all men actually are" - "One "radfem" does something stupid, all feminists are like this."

 

 

Booooooring.

 

 

I read that in Sera's voice, and it made it better somehow.

 

 

Promiscuity in the day of AIDS, hep C, and herpes is pretty much playing Russian Roulette with your life and health.  I work in international public health for JHU.  I've had programs in Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Malawi for AIDS awareness.  Condoms break.  That's why we are not allowed to say "Safe Sex" only "Safer Sex" when discussing condoms.

 

In fact, we actually teach abstinence hand in hand with condoms, something we'd **** bricks about in the US, because the death rate in Africa is nowhere near where it should be for AIDS, it's getting there, but still not where it should be.

 

I realize that we like to live in a judgment free zone and I personally believe people should be able to risk their life IF they choose, but we do not live in a zone where we should be dishonest about the dangers of certain behavior.

 

Promiscuity is not healthy behavior.

 

Yes, I'm the party pooper.  I can also give talks on female genital "cutting", too. 

 

 

Ugh, FGM. /crosses legs I don't know how guys live with getting circumcised.

 

That being said, I see your point but with the advent of fast, cheap STD testing (in the US/western world, at least) and better condoms, wouldn't the danger of promiscuity be lessened? Seems to me that the real danger is lack of education.

[Handsome Jack]

He still goes on about "sjw" I see. 

Ghosts everywhere.

 

I call them how I see them, chump.

[Zobert]

If someone is careful, it can be healthy.

Then again someone might lie so there's that possibility as well.

 

 

It would be easier for female-female sexual promiscuity to be, but not any involving males.

 

Condoms break.  Ask Planned Parenthood, it's always one of their leading reasons why abortion needs to be safe and legal.

 

The more partners you have (and its nearly impossible to disease test people you meet in a club unless you have your own medical van you drive everywhere) the greater the risk.

 

Are you trying to say that promiscuity is safe behavior, health-wise?

[WildOrchid]

it very much boils down to being a responsible person, regardless of how many sexual partners you change or have/had.

 

That was my point.

[o Ventus]

Then you live under a rock.  Sorry, I'm not playing this bullshit where we pretend that they aren't selling THOT culture etc., or having women with whipped cream shoot out of fake boobs, or "Yonce" pole riding in videos while barely wearing clothing.  We sell sex constantly.

 

I don't know what THOT stands for. That Katy Perry video you're referring to is intentionally stupid and corny. Beyonce's stage persona is exactly that. A stage persona. She doesn't behave like how she does in videos or on stage at all. You're also mentioning things that nobody actually likes, outside those niche fandoms. No self-respecting person is going to give credit or credence to Katy Perry or Beyonce. You can't tell me we "sell sex" when we turn around and collectively criticize and deride Miley Cyrus for twerking on Robin Thicke, and how ever other music critic criticizes Robin Thicke for his terrible rape-y sounding lyrics.

 

Sex And the City--All about Sex.

 

 

Girls--Overly concerned with sex.

 

Even old school--Seinfeld dealt with things like where to buy the Sponge, how long we can go without masturbation, etc.

 

Despite the title, Sex and the City is not all about sex. Don't ask how I know this. I don't know what "Girls" is. If Seinfeld having episodes related to sex is "selling sex", then you really may as well just throw in the towel and give up. Just about everything to every be produced by humankind with the intent to be consumed for entertainment deals with sex at some point, and has throughout a tremendous amount of human history. It isn't like there's some sexual Illuminati trying to brainwash people into having rampant sex with subliminal d**k messages.

 

I see Thor and I don't think about his cape.  I'm thinking about his pecs and biceps.  I see Shirley Manson from Garbage and I'm not thinking about where she gets her hair colored.  I see Game of Thrones and drool over everyone from Jon Snow to Jaime Lannister.  Why?  Because humans like sex.

 

That's a "you" issue, not a "these people are deliberately being sexual" issue.

[WildOrchid]

I call them how I see them, chump.

 

Then you need to get your eyes and brain checked, asap.

[Handsome Jack]

It would be easier for female-female sexual promiscuity to be, but not any involving males.

 

Condoms break.  Ask Planned Parenthood, it's always one of their leading reasons why abortion needs to be safe and legal.

 

The more partners you have (and its nearly impossible to disease test people you meet in a club unless you have your own medical van you drive everywhere) the greater the risk.

 

Are you trying to say that promiscuity is safe behavior, health-wise?

 

I tend to think most of the people advocating "hyper promiscuity" online likely haven't, or very rarely, have sex at all. Exceptions, sure, but the types who seem to think promiscuity is the supreme ideology and way to be also seem like the types least likely to actually be living that sort of life.

 

Then you need to get your eyes and brain checked, asap.

 

You're an SJW through and through. I suggest the same for you.

[eyezonlyii]

Umm...none of this has o do with demisexuality. Just saying

[Raiil]

I tend to think most of the people advocating "hyper promiscuity" online likely haven't, or very rarely, have sex at all. Exceptions, sure, but the types who seem to think promiscuity is the supreme ideology and way to be also seem like the types least likely to actually be living that sort of life.

 

Advocating hyper promiscuity or advocating that people should be allowed to do so?

 

From my own perspective, I know a lot of people who are fine with others sleeping around, and a lot less who actually do so. I'm pretty good friends with one or two people who actually do get around a lot, and the rest of us just go 'remember your birth control' 'remember your condoms'.

[WildOrchid]

Are you trying to say that promiscuity is safe behavior, health-wise?

 

If you're a mess in the head, nope.

But if you're responsible and you take it seriously, it can.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Umm...none of this has o do with demisexuality. Just saying

I don't think they care. This is just a thread for them to argue on until it gets locked. 

 

Lucky me. 

[Handsome Jack]

Umm...none of this has o do with demisexuality. Just saying

 

This topic hasn't had anything to do with demisexuality for about 15 pages.

 

Advocating hyper promiscuity or advocating that people should be allowed to do so?

 

From my own perspective, I know a lot of people who are fine with others sleeping around, and a lot less who actually do so. I'm pretty good friends with one or two people who actually do get around a lot, and the rest of us just go 'remember your birth control' 'remember your condoms'.

 

If they're allowed to sleep around, then I'm equally allowed to give them absolutely no respect. Expression works both ways.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

This topic hasn't had anything to do with demisexuality for about 15 pages.

Then how about you and the others take these discussions to PMs and let this thread stay on topic? Please. 

[WildOrchid]

You're an SJW through and through. I suggest the same for you.

 

I knew you'd call me a sjw. I so knew it. 

Beware, i might haunt your home one day and drive you crazy.

 

So whoever disagrees with you is a swj. Gotcha. I think you need not one but 4 docs.

[ThreeF]

No.  I get HIV tested, disease tested regularly.  I have responsible talks with my SO or anyone else I am going to sexually partner with and I am always aware of the dangers.

 

Most people are not that paranoid though they should be.

But you can't be 100% sure if your sexual partner does the same especially if it's a new partner, unless you ask a meticulous clean bill of health every time you have sex with them and even that won't tell you everything because some things have their circle, promiscuity just increase the risk statistically, but the risk is always there, unless well...hand.

[dongsaeng]

Umm...none of this has o do with demisexuality. Just saying

lol, I was waiting for someone to say this 

[ComedicSociopathy]

Could someone give me a definitive list of what qualities and philosophies that a SJW must have to be recognized as one. I'm only asking because it seems to me that SJW are sorta of like hipsters in that everyone has their own idea of them that's different from everyone else's. 

 

I think this pointless argument would be a bit better if everyone was using the same terms, with the same objective definitions of what their talking about. 

[Raiil]

This topic hasn't had anything to do with demisexuality for about 15 pages.

 

 

If they're allowed to sleep around, then I'm equally allowed to give them absolutely no respect. Expression works both ways.

 

Certainly, but you continue to conflate promiscuity with immorality without explanation. And it's not quite the same when they're not judging you on their standards.

[Zobert]

 

Ugh, FGM. /crosses legs I don't know how guys live with getting circumcised.

 

That being said, I see your point but with the advent of fast, cheap STD testing (in the US/western world, at least) and better condoms, wouldn't the danger of promiscuity be lessened? Seems to me that the real danger is lack of education.

 

The odd thing is that I've been having sex with people for about 10 years now and never go with the cheap condoms, only in the last 6 months have I ever had the condoms break--and not to be well, let's say I've used a lot of them.  My job makes me hyper paranoid.

 

3 in 6 months.

 

TMI?

 

Also, how many people do you know outside the gay community who get tested regularly for anything?  They get HIV tested pretty regular but most people still think if you're not a gay male you're not going to get a disease and that's total bullshit.

 

Also condoms don't prevent herpes.  It only reduces the exposed area but since you can have the virus on your upper thighs and entire pelvic region you're still taking chances.

 

I'm sorry to everyone for inserting the reality of my job into a discussion but I cannot divorce myself from what i do for a living.