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Honestly, who ever asked for Dragon Age to be multiplayer?


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DA:I is £49.99 for the standard PC edition, but the new Call of Duty is £39.99. That is quite a difference. Middle Earth: Shadows of Mordor was £29.99.

 

I honestly can't remember how much DA2 was, but it certainly wasn't £49.99. DA:O was £29.99.

A lot of games outside the USA have varied prices



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 I hate multiplayer games.

 

This is pretty much your OP.  Many people agree with you.  But many people enjoy multiplayer games.  I don't know what to tell ya if you don't like something and can't understand why other people like it.  Everyone is different.



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A lot of games outside the USA have varied prices

That's weird... that would be like movie theaters charging different prices based on the movie you were seeing (instead of time/3D/IMAX, etc)



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So your position is that Bioware are giving us multiplayer out of the goodness of their hearts? There is no financial motivation at all? It has nothing to do with DA:I costing way more than comparable games. Well, I wish I did live where you live. There must be butterflies, unicorns and pretty flowers everywhere.

 

I'm living in the world where most AAA games, regardless of whenever they are multiplayer, single-player or have both, cost 59.99$. I'm living in the world where DA2 cost that price despite having no multiplayer and being regardless presumably cheaper than Inquisition to make, since it was made in barely 2 years while Inquisition took 4. Witcher 3 (minus pre-order discount) also costs that price, despite being single-player only, so does The Evil Within and Wolfenstein: The New Order. Call of Duty, Rome II Total War, ARMA 3, those ''hybrids'' are all 59.99$, despite some having only a token multiplayer while others have it as the main course of the dish. Titanfall was like that at release too, despite having no single-player, so is Destiny.

 

So yeah, before bringing out the condescending tone, you might want to do some basic research so you don't come across as a complete fool.


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The Witcher 3 costs £39.99 in the UK which is £10 less than DA:I's £49.99.



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The Witcher 3 costs £39.99 in the UK which is £10 less than DA:I's £49.99.

 

Is that the Pre-order Discount?  A lot of games have been doing that. Shadows of Mordor had a Steam discount before it came out of like... $10-15.



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The Witcher 3 costs £39.99 in the UK which is £10 less than DA:I's £49.99.


DA:I costs £39.99 if you buy a physical version.

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Giantdeathrobot

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The Witcher 3 costs £39.99 in the UK which is £10 less than DA:I's £49.99.

 

Can't speak for the prices outside North America, those are always changed due to shipping, publishers, international laws and all other sorts of factors (which is bullshit but a little bit outside of Bioware's control). Here in Canada there's no difference besides Witcher 3 having a 15% discount on pre-order. Which is nice of them, but doesn,t change the base price. And Wolfenstein: New Order and The Evil Within both cost that price too, despite being purely single-player.



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I'm paying £59.99 for my deluxe Edition on Xbox One.



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It's kind of bull to say that MP doesn't affect single player in the slightest. It does in the sense that X amount of time and Y amount of money is allocated to a game, and if money and time are going to MP, then that's money and time that isn't spent on single player.

Not really.  That's assuming a game with SP only gets the same amount of money, and the money is allocated the same, as a game that has SP + MP.  Would you say that BF3 suffered compared to older BF games because the single player campaign took developmental resources away from the multiplayer aspect (you may not play that game, but BF traditionally just had the MP game modes in SP just with really really bad AI)?  It seems pretty absurd to say given that BF3 is arguably a better game than BF 2142, despite the former having added SP and the later not having SP.  So why doesn't this same sort of argument apply in reverse?  My assertion is that it doesn't apply because it isn't necessarily true to begin with.

 

That being said, if a SP only game gets the same money as a game with SP + MP game, then obviously the MP detracts from the pool of resources, but why would that be the case?  If a game has both modes of gamepaly, you might expect you'd allocate more resources than if it just had one mode of gameplay.  Then again, that also isn't necessarily true.  The best way to actually know whether or not MP detracts from the SP is to actually look at the budget numbers, and even then it isn't strictly easy to tell because with the increasing complexity of the games themselves you'd need to find metrics to actually analyze game budgets and how they've changed in the past four to five years.



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The price of video games hasn't changed much over the years. In 1991, my dad wanted Final Fantasy II (now known as IV) for our SNES the day it came out.  He even had it pre-ordered, back at a point in time where such things weren't as common as they are now.  It cost $65 dollars, which is about the price I'm paying for DAI.    

 

If I was to believe some of the logic in here, that game had to have multiplayer to justify the cost, especially over 23 years ago.  That it must be the only reason for the cost, nothing to do with buying a game brand new.   <_<  

 

As far as the topic goes, from what I can tell, plenty of folks did ask for DAMP.  I am not one of those people, however I don't see the issue.  The cost of this game is the same cost I paid for other new games over the years, such as the GoW and Arkham series.  I can list more games from over the years that had a $50-$70 price tag, that never had the words "multi-player" attached to it.

 

If one doesn't have faith in BioWare that the MP will not affect the SP, or much faith in BioWare at all, then I have to question what they are doing here.  To complain?  Okay, venting is healthy, sure.  To ask for exclusion?  I can't see them doing that.  

 

For my part, I'm glad that it's available to those that want it.  I might even check it out myself down the road.  Yet, I know in my heart that BioWare learned their lesson after ME3 with the MP.  They won't let the MP affect my SP game.  

 

I got into the ME series earlier this year, so I can only speak as a newcomer, that's coming in after EC and after the War Assets patch.  With that patch, MP has never affected my SP game in ME3.  Not once and I've played the series three times now.  That's the supposed "devil" when it comes to MP affecting SP and thanks to patches, I don't care.  The only way MP seems to affect my SP is on load up, when it's connecting to EA automatically.  Otherwise, I don't have to acknowledge it's existence.

 

Finally, even if they were to charge for MP maps (which I really hope they don't do,) then why should it bother anyone else?  I don't feel like I have a gun to my head with EA demanding that I must buy all of the microtransactions and DLC that's available.  MP wouldn't be any different.


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#287
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I didn't ask for MP. But it's still there. You'll just have to live with it. If it were up to I'd take it out in a Heartbeat, but sadly You can't always get what you want as the philosopher Jagger once said.



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After watching that Multiplayer stream this afternoon I still don't have much interest in playing around with that feature. It just seems like a glorified tacked on experience with the sole purpose of finding a way to milk money from consumers. It wouldn't be a terrible thing if it didn't seem shallow and uninteresting but that isn't the case here...


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#289
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DA:I costs £39.99 if you buy a physical version.

Yes, it's worth it to compare boxed vs digital version. International digital pricing seems to be more expensive than physical copies. So keep those stores alive!



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Don't do multiplayer, and never will, for a variety of reasons.

 

But if the inclusion of MP truly does not affect the SP game, I really don't care one way or the other.

 

I just have a very healthy amount of skepticism about the assertion that it won't affect SP, after the debacle that was ME3 and the claim that you could get all possible endings without doing any MP at all (which was proven to be utter bullshit; thank god for game editors).


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I asked for it and I'm extremely happy that it's in there. Getting damp about DAMP!



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Yes, it's worth it to compare boxed vs digital version. International digital pricing seems to be more expensive than physical copies. So keep those stores alive!

Can't keep those stores alive when they only let you buy regular versions.  Only American continent has full options!!!  Still mad at EA/Bioware for NOT being able to buy inquisitor's edition.  No gamestop in my country.  So online origin was only option for the deluxe edition simply because I don't want regular edition.



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Who ever asked for you to be born? You are just born. Multiplayer is completely optional and shouldn't hinder your chance to play the single player.



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Who ever asked for you to be born? You are just born. Multiplayer is completely optional and shouldn't hinder your chance to play the single player.

 

His parents ?

That must be single most idiotic analogy or whatever it is I have seen for years. Wow. Congratulations.



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His parents ?

That must be single most idiotic analogy or whatever it is I have seen for years. Wow. Congratulations.

 

Yet the general public didn't ask. Should we complain that he is born? No. So what if there is mp in the game? The developers made the decision(Parents) and we are the general public. So if the general doesn't care about a person being born than why should we care if there is mp in a game?



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Yet the general public didn't ask. Should we complain that he is born? No. So what if there is mp in the game? The developers made the decision(Parents) and we are the general public. So if the general doesn't care about a person being born who ask why than why should we care if there is mp in a game?

 

Is he for sale ? Was he "made" to be sold ? Was he "made" for profit ?

I'll repeat, haven't heard bigger @#$! ... nevermind. Stop with this idiocy. You just made fool of yourself, you should be ashamed for even trying to say something like that. I should ask you now how old are you but I won't.



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I didn't ask but love the idea



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Is he for sale ? Was he "made" to be sold ? Was he "made" for profit ?.

 

Oh lord...This particular conversation.

My sides are In orbit.


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He doesn't have to be a product.

 

My thing is I see so many people get up in arms about mp infecting their precious single player game when it isn't their game to begin with. Because you bought it and you play it, doesn't mean you dictate what the developer should do.

 

This is the 3rd game of the franchise. It was the developers decision to put mp into the game.



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No one. Ever. Bioware just hates freedom.