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[Sheld0r]

Cause in RL I'm just a very logical person (Math Major and all that).  I just need everything, even game logic, to make sense to me for me to enjoy it.  I need it to make sense, to me, that Varric is there.  I need to know that he isn't just being forced into the game just for 'reasons' and nothing else.  Is that ok?

 

Well the way I see it, Varric wasn't kept a prisoner at the end of DAII and was free to go, meaning he could pop up everywhere. Simple as that. I think it was more unlikely for Oghren to show up in Awakening.

 

Also, since both Varric AND Cassandra are party members in Inquisition, they surely will go into it in more detail, what happened after Varric was done telling his side of the story in DAII.

[Br3admax]

Cause in RL I'm just a very logical person (Math Major and all that). I just need everything, even game logic, to make sense to me for me to enjoy it. I need it to make sense, to me, that Varric is there. I need to know that he isn't just being forced into the game just for 'reasons' and nothing else. Is that ok?

Besides the fact that logically Varric can do whatever he wants as a living being, I doubt any explanation needs to actually be given to make logical sense. Sounds a lot more like fishing for something to complain about. Especially when you say, "Maybe it'll be worth it all."

[dekarserverbot]

Maybe Bioware wants to make more use of the characters they have made, a bit like with Alistair. Rather than just write a character only to appear once and never be see again. People say they do not want to see certain characters again like Anders, Fenris etc but Bioware is not going to dump their creations purely because a player did not personally like them, even if they killed them.

 

good thing Fenris is dead in every of my current keep worlds (except Crapsack, of course)... At least imposter Anders has some potential

[EdwinLi]

One of the trailer shows varric meeting the Inquisitor early in the game after being attacked by demons. He first there for personal reasons until the breach happened so he decided to join the Inquisition in hopes of stopping the Breach since if it is not stopped the entire world will be destroyed.

 

Varric was only taken by the Seekers in DA2 because Cassandra needed information about how the entire thing started and hoped to find Hawke so he can stop the Mage vs Templar war. Cas then let him go after DA2 since she learned everything she needed to know. From there we learn what Varric has been doing between DA2 and DAI in the books as he Journey with Alistair and Isabela to find king Maric. 

[LeBurns]

Besides the fact that logically Varric can do whatever he wants as a living being, I doubt any explanation needs to actually be given to make logical sense. Sounds a lot more like fishing for something to complain about. Especially when you say, "Maybe it'll be worth it all."

 

Or maybe looking to complain about someone looking to complain.  Been know to happen from time to time.

 

Read into it what you will.  I tire of trying to justify anything to anyone who is just looking for someone to complain about.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

So she doesn't just kill him or imprison him after the breach encounter?  He's the only rogue in the entire country that can help or she just can't get enough of him?  It just doesn't seem like a logical arrangement.

Ehrr... exactly what imagined crime is it you think Varric has commited?

[robertmarilyn]

With Varric in the story, there's a better chance I'll get to find out how Aveline, Isabella, Merrill, Fenris and the others may be doing. I like knowing those kinds of things and it'd make more sense that he'd know than to have some stranger give out that kind of info.

[elrofrost]

Actually he's in in DAI because, like Garrus in ME, Varric is a constant. He has to live pst DS2 because -well - he's the one telling the tale. Of course, in ME, you could get Garrus killed (or not recruit him). And I'm glad to see in DAI you can get Varric to leave, probably even killed.

But com'on; he's freaking Varric! Everyone's best bud. Who would not want him around?

[Barrendall]

Or maybe looking to complain about someone looking to complain.  Been know to happen from time to time.

 

Read into it what you will.  I tire of trying to justify anything to anyone who is just looking for someone to complain about.

Cassandra was looking for Hawke.  Would it be possible that Varric joined her to try and find him/her when they stumbled on to the Inquisitor and that's how they became companions?  (I'm not being snarky btw)

[veeia]

If you're looking for the in game logic reason, you'll find out why in the game, I'm sure. It's not like he's just going to show up like "yo I'm heard y'all were gonna fight some demons and run around in the wilderness and those are my two favorite things sign me up!!!!"

[Sheld0r]

With Varric in the story, there's a better chance I'll get to find out how Aveline, Isabella, Merrill, Fenris and the others may be doing. I like knowing those kinds of things and it'd make more sense that he'd know than to have some stranger give out that kind of info.

 

I would be seriously shocked if none of them were at least mentioned. I can't imagine them doing this. They said Hawke will play a "significant" part in DAI, so I'll expect at least a mention of whomever Hawke romanced.

[elrofrost]

Tell you the truth though; there are "other" characters that were in DA1 and 2 that I'm surprised do not have a bigger roll in DAI. Like Alistair - assuming he lived. I mean, I suppose if he's king he might not have the time to help you deal with, yet, another world ending event.

 

Or how about the dog- actually what does happen to the dog? He disappeared in Awakening? And what about Shale? And Wynne?

 

And for DA2; Aveline? Or the dog, again? Or Ferris?

[CliffMcVodka]

So she doesn't just kill him or imprison him after the breach encounter? He's the only rogue in the entire country that can help or she just can't get enough of him? It just doesn't seem like a logical arrangement.

It has already been revealed in some released gameplay through party banter that after the interrogation of DA2 Cassandra brought Varric to Haven so he could tell his story to the Divine. It's safe to assume the explosion/veil breach occured just before they arrived. After the breach, Varric stayed to help. Cassandra had absolutely no reason to kill or imprison Varric, because he hasn't done anything to deserve it. She just wanted him to repeat his first-hand account at the peace meeting.

[mopotter]

So logic had nothing to do with it.  You know I don't mind re-occurring characters if the story is a continuation (like ME), but since DA games have basically been stand alone as far as the PC is concerned I do wish BioWare would come up with some new characters instead of recycling old ones ... or worse yet, forcing them to fit where it makes no sense just for a cameo (looking at you DA2).

The games are standalone, which I really like, I enjoyed both games for different reasons,  but they are set in the same world and set in one possible life time, not like the 200 years between Oblivion and Skyrim another game series I enjoy.  

 

8 are new and I look forward to learning more about them. Having 5 characters, out of the 13, that I have had some kind of contact with in past games, just makes the story more interesting to me, even if I don't have a passionate feeling about any of them one way or the other.  

 

I'm interested in getting Cullen's take on the events and to see how his character has grown up which did start in DA2. And while I don't really care about Morrigan, it should be interesting to see what she's up to or who she really is.  I have no problem seeing Varric offer to assist with the disaster.  It's a story in the making.   

 

I would rather not have Hawke show up, and I'm glad the Warden isn't, but I'll cope.

[LOLandStuff]

Why you go around imposing logic?

[robertmarilyn]

Tell you the truth though; there are "other" characters that were in DA1 and 2 that I'm surprised do not have a bigger roll in DAI. Like Alistair - assuming he lived. I mean, I suppose if he's king he might not have the time to help you deal with, yet, another world ending event.

 

Or how about the dog- actually what does happen to the dog? He disappeared in Awakening? And what about Shale? And Wynne?

 

And for DA2; Aveline? Or the dog, again? Or Ferris?

I hope both of the dogs are with my wardens and with Hawke, although I guess the dogs are pretty old by now. The book, Asunder, tells what happens to Wynne (her time is over).  I would like to see my King Alistair or warden Alistair again but only if horrible things aren't going to happen to them. Oh, and I'd like to see Nathaniel and Carver too although I'd rather not see them if it's so they can have horrible deaths. I'm not sure things are going very well for some of the Grey Wardens, although I guess things always end badly with the Calling. I do wonder if Shale was able to reverse becoming a golem. 

[Allan Schumacher]

I'm sure if you've actually played DA2 'till the end you'll notice Cass giving him permission to go until circumstances of Inquisition.

He's in Inquisition because BioWare feels there's more to be told about Varric, which is true because there wasn't enough elaboration on his character as far I recall.

It's the same reason why a character like Isabela ended up becoming a party member in DA2, because the writers liked the character and wanted to do something more with her.

 

Pretty much

[DanAxe]

Varric has become the "bard of the story". He has to be present from now on in every Dragon Age game so that he can be the last one to survive at the end of the Dragon Age / Beginning of a new Age and tell the new gerations about the great heroes - Hero of Ferelden, Hawke, Inquisitor, the Warden that shall defeat the 6th Blight, and the Hero that will stop the Blights for good. Oh and Griphons. He'll have a lot of stories to tell about the griphons by the end of the current Age.

 

Im kidding, but he might actually have a hand to play in future games as well as the story teller Varric that happens to find himself in the middle of the chaos when it happens (not saying he'll be coming back as a companion in the future ofc.)

[Kel Eligor]

People like to forget that Varric has extensive connections to the merchant's guild and that he's a formidable ally for the Inquisition and it's trade. 

 

Out of all the characters of DA2, he and Sebastian probably have the most resources to provide to the Inquisition and the potential to become power-players for the cause. I would argue, in fact, that it makes far more sense for Varric to show up in Inquisition than anyone else from DA2... and that's not even counting his history with Cassandra. 

[mopotter]

I hope both of the dogs are with my wardens and with Hawke, although I guess the dogs are pretty old by now. The book, Asunder, tells what happens to Wynne (her time is over).  I would like to see my King Alistair or warden Alistair again but only if horrible things aren't going to happen to them. Oh, and I'd like to see Nathaniel and Carver too although I'd rather not see them if it's so they can have horrible deaths. I'm not sure things are going very well for some of the Grey Wardens, although I guess things always end badly with the Calling. I do wonder if Shale was able to reverse becoming a golem. 

Pretty much agree.    

 

I've always gotten the impression that the joining delays the process of going mad, and I really don't want to see Alistair or my warden headed in this direction.  Or ewwww, my female warden turning into a broodmother.   

 

I'd like to hear news about the characters from DAO and DA2, I wasn't a big fan of the cameo appearances in 2.

[J4JOKER]

Cass couldn't resist he's chest hair, so she brought him along 

[Silver Souls]

She took Varric to Haven to tell his story to the divine and he ended helping because of the Breach and not wanting to be idk killed by demons

I thought at first you said "heaven" as if she killed him then I read the rest.

[bootyislovebootyislife]

Fan service, basically

[Keroko]

So logic had nothing to do with it.  You know I don't mind re-occurring characters if the story is a continuation (like ME), but since DA games have basically been stand alone as far as the PC is concerned I do wish BioWare would come up with some new characters instead of recycling old ones ... or worse yet, forcing them to fit where it makes no sense just for a cameo (looking at you DA2).

Not sure what kind of math you're using, but so far the amount of recycled characters that aren't cameos is at 3. Including your advisers. The rest of your crew is all new characters. 10 of them, counting Cassandra (as we hardly got to know her in DA2).

As for why Varric's still there? They were still searching for Hawke before everything went down the toilet. Varric is one of the best leads for finding Hawke.

[Tourdoodle]

Why would you not want a character from a previous game in these games? I certainly want even the characters I don't like (Anders) to be in and have a story line in this game, unless of course they have a VERY good reason like death to not be in the game. Why would you not want more? And what doesn't make sense about why Cassandra and Varric are togehter?