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[Apostate.]

Various companions can up and leave the Inquisition should certain key events playout not to their liking. So I'm wondering what do you guys think would have to happen in-order for mostly everyone's favorite Dwarven companion to quit the Inquisition and leave?

 

I never knew him in DA:2 to have the strongest of moral compasses so I'm a little shocked that he would be 100% on board with everything Hawke could do yet appears to have  a 'line' that can be crossed in Inquisition. I never got to fully know him as a charcter: his values, fears and motivation for doing the things he did (he obviously loves money and Bianca) so maybe I'm missing a key part of his value system or something but yeah, any thoughts on what could force Varric's hand and make him leave the group?

 

I am of course referring to things in which this video is relevant:

[Sully13]

Its when you keep useing him as a foot stool.

[RobRam10]

Back in the very first Pax demo in Crestwood when the Inquisitor chose to move his troops to the Keep instead of sending them to Crestwood village Varric clearly did not like that. So if you ignore the plebs screams for help I think Varric won't like you.

[Aurok]

His motivation for being involved in the first place seems to be about Hawke, so maybe if you put him in a position where he has to choose between your Inquisitor and Hawke?

[Reznore57]

Varric doesn't like unnecessary violence at all.

He also has a grudge against the Qunari , and want to side with the templars in DA2 because he wants his city and its people to stay as safe as possible.

 

If you play a bloodthirsty Inquisitor , or an Inquisitor who doesn't care about casualties when you make decisions ...he probably won't like you much.

[EmperorKarino]

Various companions can up and leave the Inquisition should certain key events playout not to their liking. So I'm wondering what do you guys think would have to happen in-order for mostly everyone's favorite Dwarven companion to quit the Inquisition and leave?

 

I never knew him in DA:2 to have the strongest of moral compasses so I'm a little shocked that he would be 100% on board with everything Hawke could do yet appears to have  a 'line' that can be crossed in Inquisition. I never got to fully know him as a charcter: his values, fears and motivation for doing the things he did (he obviously loves money and Bianca) so maybe I'm missing a key part of his value system or something but yeah, any thoughts on what could force Varric's hand and make him leave the group?

 

I am of course referring to things in which this video is relevant:

 

maybe because varric and the inquisitior aren't friends? even if you were rivals with varric in dragonage 2, i think he still considers hawke his friend, varric spent years with hawke and his family, i'm guessing (don't actually know) that inquisition won't be a several year long game. (aka, no time jumps). perhaps the events of dragonage 2 have shaken up varric so his outlook towards things and people have changed?

[Apostate.]

Varric doesn't like unnecessary violence at all.

He also has a grudge against the Qunari , and want to side with the templars in DA2 because he wants his city and its people to stay as safe as possible.

 

If you play a bloodthirsty Inquisitor , or an Inquisitor who doesn't care about casualties when you make decisions ...he probably won't like you much.

I find this interesting he was so close to the situation at kirkwall, and such friends with Hakwe so I'm guessing he'd be opposed to the more forceful choices you can make. By forceful I mean fatal.

 

Just because he isn't as good as friends with Inquisition seems kind of weird to me, as bad as things got in Kirkwall I don't think the scale was anywhere near what Thedas is/going to be experiencing. So you would think that at the near certain end of times  Varric would be in it to win it.

Maybe Harding is a possible side fling you can have, not a direct romance interest and just maybe if you pursue it to it's conclusion, Varric storms off heart-broken and ready for death.

[themikefest]

I wonder if making fun of his crossbow would be enough to get him to leave?

[Reznore57]

I find this interesting he was so close to the situation at kirkwall, and such friends with Hakwe so I'm guessing he'd be opposed to the more forceful choices you can make. By forceful I mean fatal.

 

Just because he isn't as good as friends with Inquisition seems kind of weird to me, as bad as things got in Kirkwall I don't think the scale was anywhere near what Thedas is/going to be experiencing. So you would think that at the near certain end of times  Varric would be in it to win it.

Maybe Harding is a possible side fling you can have, not a direct romance interest and just maybe if you pursue it to it's conclusion, Varric storms off heart-broken and ready for death.

 

Well if you rival Varric in DA2 , he's not really a good friend.

It's much more like a Varric/Batrand relationship , he hangs around with Hawke because Hawke is efficient and he's good for story material but he pretty much thinks Hawke is an ass.

[Milan92]

Well if you rival Varric in DA2 , he's not really a good friend.

It's much more like a Varric/Batrand relationship , he hangs around with Hawke because Hawke is efficient and he's good for story material but he pretty much thinks Hawke is an ass.

 

Isn't it like basically impossible to fully rival Varric?

[EmissaryofLies]

Varric doesn't like unnecessary violence at all.

He also has a grudge against the Qunari , and want to side with the templars in DA2 because he wants his city and its people to stay as safe as possible.

 

If you play a bloodthirsty Inquisitor , or an Inquisitor who doesn't care about casualties when you make decisions ...he probably won't like you much.

 

Spot on analysis of the character.

 

Pay attention, folks.

[Ynqve]

Varric doesn't like unnecessary violence at all.

He also has a grudge against the Qunari , and want to side with the templars in DA2 because he wants his city and its people to stay as safe as possible.

 

If you play a bloodthirsty Inquisitor , or an Inquisitor who doesn't care about casualties when you make decisions ...he probably won't like you much.

 

He does? I thought he was tired of both sides and doesn't care who you support. He flat out tells you he's sick of both Templars and mages. 

 

Agree with the rest, play an assquisitor and he'll leave you. 

[X Equestris]

He does? I thought he was tired of both sides and doesn't care who you support. He flat out tells you he's sick of both Templars and mages. 
 
Agree with the rest, play an assquisitor and he'll leave you.

Yeah, he was always neutral every time I played The Last Straw.

[Ynqve]

Yeah, he was always neutral every time I played The Last Straw.

 

Exactly. Aveline on the other hand is the one who wants to side with the Templars in order to protect the innocent people of Kirkwall. 

[veeia]

Varric holds his cards close to his chest, but he does have a line of dialogue (I can't find it, hopefulys omeone else remembers) that implies he's more inclined to support the Templars, which makes sense in DA2, because he values order and the mages are the one actively rebelling. By the end, he's had it with everyone and in DA:I, they've both rebelled, so I don't think that's as much a factor. 

[thats1evildude]

Varric supports you either way in The Last Straw. He just sounds more happy about doing it if you side with the templars.

 

I predict that his "breaking point" is tied to the Inquisition's potential alliance with the Red Templars. Much of his approval/disapproval seems tied to the Red Templars in some way. (He opposes letting Crestwood being destroyed and approves when you take down Red Templar Behemoths.)

[veeia]

That makes total sense, since he saw his own brother be corrupted by it, and all of the horrible things that happened after they found the red lyrium. 

[Reznore57]

He does? I thought he was tired of both sides and doesn't care who you support. He flat out tells you he's sick of both Templars and mages. 

 

Agree with the rest, play an assquisitor and he'll leave you. 

 

In the mage ending he tells you "I'm not sure we should be doing this ,helping dangerous people run amok."

In the templar ending he says "Defending innocent people , preserving our way of life ...this is worth doing."

[veeia]

In the mage ending he tells you "I'm not sure we should be doing this ,helping dangerous people run amok."

In the templar ending he says "Defending innocent people , preserving our way of life ...this is worth doing."

 

Yes, this is what I meant, thank you!

 

Varric seems pretty consistent in that he's not for people being oppressed, but he's more content with the status quo (because he can predict it and be comfortable) than any kind of change, unless it happens slowly/peacefully. He's more into the value of individual actions than systemic changes....the "no ideology ideology" if you will.  

 

So I'm guessing with Varric, you'll get approval for helping people, but he might disapprove of you helping specific factions, depending on the extremity of your assistance. 

[Ynqve]

In the mage ending he tells you "I'm not sure we should be doing this ,helping dangerous people run amok."

In the templar ending he says "Defending innocent people , preserving our way of life ...this is worth doing."

 

I never managed to side with the Templars so I haven't heard that dialogue. Interesting!

[kalasaurus]

Yeah, I didn't know that either.

 

I keep thinking back to Varric's reaction when my Hawke said she wasn't going to help Meredith:

 

"Thank the Maker!"

 

I guess it makes sense that it had more to do with his opinion on Meredith, and not the Templars as a whole.

[thats1evildude]

That was Orsino saying "Thank the Maker."

 

Varric's line is "You sure about this? Even you might not win this fight."

[Andreas Amell]

I hope the split won't have anything to do with how I may treat Hawke. I'll be playing this game as the inquisitor, not the Champion of Kirkwall.

 

But I wager many characters are in the Inqusition for their own interests. Fostering a common goal and understanding will be difficult with this bunch.

[Inquisitor Julianos]

Varric has a soft spot for the innocent, so i guess if you mess with that he is unhappy, i.e Crestwood village and letting it burn when you could have done something.

[Medhia_Nox]

I wonder what it would matter to lose him anyway.

 

- He hates his fellow dwarves, so that connection is bust.

 

- He doesn't have a group affiliated with him like Sera, Cassandra, Iron Bull and Blackwall.

 

- He doesn't have prestige from powerful civs like Dorian and Vivienne

 

- He's not something unique like Solas or Cole. 

 

He just tells wildly embellished stories to try to make his friends look better than they really are.

 

I liked him - but I don't know why I'd miss him if he left (maybe that'll change in during the story)