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#126
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NO!!!!!!!!!!

 

I will wait a few months for all the bugs and complaints to be dealt with........

 

Hope it doesn't have the Mako I hate the Mako



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It has a Mako.


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NO!!!!!!!!!!

 

I will wait a few months for all the bugs and complaints to be dealt with........

 

Hope it doesn't have the Mako I hate the Mako

 

The controls could improve.

 

I'm actually kind of psyched in a way. I know I bitchandmoan about the planet exploration sequences but they were much more engaging than planet scanning. Game's shouldn't have that kind of busy work in them.



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I actually played the first game last and went into it hearing all the hate people toss at the mako. Despite this I actually enjoyed the segments with the mako, even if they were a bit frustrating. Honestly having a flight-capable vehicle could had solved all the problems - just fly over the mountains. It wasn't so much the mako and its controls that got on my nerves but rather it was the terrain. It was like every planet I visited was made primarily of large rock faces with little flat ground to cover. Always felt like I had to find a way to drive up three or four mountain sides before I could get to the objectives. Though this is probably my fault as well, for all I know there were clear paths I could had taken but I never noticed them. Skyrim had that problem for me all the time where I spend twenty minutes forcing myself up a mountain only to find out at the top there was a nice clean path I could had taken if I had went to the other side.

 

Anyway I felt the mako gave a lot of immersion to the game. It really felt like I was exploring alien planets and the galaxy really felt big. I didn't just point at a planet and jump straight to the mission, I had to land and drive over to its location, find the bunker or whatever and then enter it. Made each quest feel more like a journey, if that makes any sense. Everything felt larger in scope because I had to scale it manually rather than having the story automatically transport me to the start of the mission each time, you know?

 

Much better than ME3's method for almost all its side-missions, anyway, which you complete just by aiming at a planet and hitting a button.



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The controls could improve.
 
I'm actually kind of psyched in a way. I know I bitchandmoan about the planet exploration sequences but they were much more engaging than planet scanning. Game's shouldn't have that kind of busy work in them.

The concept was good, the implementation wasn't. They should be able to implement something much better by the time ME4 is released and will be aware of ME1's exploration shortcomings so that part is definitely something to look forward to.

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Though this is probably my fault as well, for all I know there were clear paths I could had taken but I never noticed them. Skyrim had that problem for me all the time where I spend twenty minutes forcing myself up a mountain only to find out at the top there was a nice clean path I could had taken if I had went to the other side.

Nope, most were that bad. There were a couple of obviously made routes on a couple of planets but the rest seemed unplanned.
 

Anyway I felt the mako gave a lot of immersion to the game. It really felt like I was exploring alien planets and the galaxy really felt big.

I really loved the feel it gave, for the first few planets at any rate (before it all got very obviously repetitive). It was just as you said, really felt like being on another world. I hope they can recapture that, and having a new Mako is a good sign. Like I said it's only the implementation that let it down and that mistake has been learned I think.

I've not played DA:I but people are saying that has big areas - would something like that in Mass Effect, being explored with the Mako, be amazing?

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It's massive Reorte you could fit a couple of GTA games in it and haave room for Jerusalem for AC.



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I do agree about the exploration......... The world felt bigger driving the Mako everywhere and it felt like you were on a little planet doing stuff but the implementation as others said was lacking.



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From what we've seen, the game seems really interresting, but already saying that I would pre-order it is kind of stupid because we don't know much about it yet. But the chances I'll pre-order the whole thing (collector edition or whatever) are at 90%.



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1. Yes. Shut up and take my money.

2. Mass Effect is love, Mass Effect is life.

3. BioWare did nothing wrong.

4. Inb4 people who hate Mass Effect so much they have nothing better to do than complain about it on the game forums for two years, oops too late.

5. Keep crying, nobody cares.
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1. Yes. Shut up and take my money.

2. Mass Event is love, Mass Effect is life.

3. BioWare did nothing wrong.

4. Inb4 people who hate Mass Effect so much they have nothing better to do than complain about it on the game forums for two years, oops too late.

5. Keep crying, nobody cares.


Just out of interest, are you actually old enough to be playing the game?
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I'm forty, I'm married, I have kids, I have a social life, and I'm middle class. How about you? I've put around 1500 hours into the campaign and multiplayer combined. I've played video games for most of my life and Mass Effect has captured me like nothing else ever. I assume that after all this time, BioWare probably doesn't care about the people here who have nothing better to do than drone the same complaints over and over.

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I'm forty, I'm married, I have kids, I have a social life, and I'm middle class. How about you? I've put around 1500 hours into the campaign and multiplayer combined. I've played video games for most of my life and Mass Effect has captured me like nothing else ever. I assume that after all this time, BioWare probably doesn't care about the people here who have nothing better to do than drone the same complaints over and over.

 

Sorry, it's just it wasn't the most grown up of responses so I had to ask :D


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No worries. I agree. I get frustrated coming into the SP forums because it seems any discussion always gets polluted with the same complaints by the same types of people.
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#140
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Take the words 'types of' out of that sentence and you'd be dead on.


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The amusing thing is that I spent the majority of my time in the MP section of the forums 'back in the day' specifically because of all the bitching and moaning about the ending. I'm more active in the SP section now but things have died down a LOT since then. It's not nearly as bad as it once was, though you do get the occasional people who only want to complain about it.


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The amusing thing is that I spent the majority of my time in the MP section of the forums 'back in the day' specifically because of all the bitching and moaning about the ending. I'm more active in the SP section now but things have died down a LOT since then. It's not nearly as bad as it once was, though you do get the occasional people who only want to complain about it.

 

Complaining is way more fun that praising or even mildly remarking that something is passable.

 

I do love that Grissom Academy mission though, even more so without Jack -- even though I love Jack. There's my positive sentence for the bimonthly period.



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@Valmar this place was really nasty for a long time, I've only actually bothered registering recently but I used to visit a lot. With any luck ME:N will bring in more people and finally move us all on from that older style of posting. N7 day seemed to have done something to bring people back so fingers crossed.



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Complaining is way more fun that praising or even mildly remarking that something is passable.

 

It's not that I hate the complaining itself. Its just that after years of the SAME argument nonstop... it gets tiring. I wasn't happy with the ending either but its been years. There was more to talk about then just how bad the ending was perceived. It isn't even like anyone has anything new to complain about, though they certainly seem to act like what they have to say is revolutionary and new. As if we're not all aware of if it hasn't been brought up a billion times on the internet.

 

 

@Valmar this place was really nasty for a long time, I've only actually bothered registering recently but I used to visit a lot. With any luck ME:N will bring in more people and finally move us all on from that older style of posting. N7 day seemed to have done something to bring people back so fingers crossed.

 

Or ME:N will bring them back to complain about how it isn't about Shepard or 'fixes' the ending of the trilogy.

 

Also it's nice to see people referring to it as ME:N. Too many still insist on calling it ME4.


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It's not that I hate the complaining itself. Its just that after years of the SAME argument nonstop... it gets tiring. I wasn't happy with the ending either but its been years. There was more to talk about then just how bad the ending was perceived. It isn't even like anyone has anything new to complain about, though they certainly seem to act like what they have to say is revolutionary and new. As if we're not all aware of if it hasn't been brought up a billion times on the internet.

 

I don't like talking about the ending either, especially when things like the game's art direction are way worse and much more prominent. Like whoever designed the Geth Dreadnaught mission needs to go sit in a dark, dark corner and take a good, deep look at what demons in their life caused them to create something so awful.



#146
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If inquisition is anything to guy by Valmar they'll get drowned out over time the PC guys are finally calming down and there's a lot less complaining going on hate n bait threads seem to have died off more recently too.



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Sure its died down now but its been over two years. It hasn't even went away, its just comparatively less than it was. I don't doubt that it'll be drowned out over time the question is how many years will it take this time? Lol.


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#148
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True enough I suppose hard to argue against that when we have people swearing off the game already over the last one in the same thread.



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Will I preorder? Nope, bioware burned me good the last time, I want fall for their tricks again. If I feel I must play it I'll look for a cracked copy on the Bay.



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Well I dont think I'll pre-order or jump on the bandwagon when its released. I bought the collectors edition of ME3 because the first 2 games were amazing storywise. Not gonna get gimped again by Bioware story Plot and endings. Curious to see how ME4 will play out though.

 

 

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