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[Kantr]

My friends!

 

Kindly provided by one of our European comrades from France under the nickname MarzipanEnthusiast, here's the link to a complete pre-loaded English DA:I

 

https://www.dropbox....CGcv5NQ05a?dl=0

 

The files we're interested in are located by the following path:

 

\Data\Win32\loctext\

 

There are two en files there that you probably need to swap with two ru files in your respective folder. I'm not certain if anything else needs to be changed in order to have a full English game. We'll found out on Monday.

You might need to modfiy some files in your registry see here.

 

http://www.cjs-cdkey...age-change.html

[WindFury]

There is another RU file - GDFBinary_ru_RU.dll, we probably will need to swap that too and edit the registry, as mentioned in the link Kantr kindly provided.

[Arthmost]

It's not ridiculous. It's market segmentation. It's a practice beneficial for the manufacturer/distributor at the expense of consumers in general, but at least you did have a choice. Now, there is none.

 

I do not expect Bioware/EA marketing strategy to be benevolent. It's business. But this decision seems ridiculous or just sloppy. Certainly I do not posses all the info behind it, maybe there is some reason, but for now it seams like:

 

- Hey, do you think that on the markets with more then 150 mln people between them there will be someone interested in buying the original version?

- Nah, screw them.

 

When you practice market segmentation in this way however, you should be wary of angry customers not applying body segmentation to you later.

[NRieh]

There ARE ways to do the 'market segmentation' without restricting the languages. Blizzard had done it for ages, steam does it all the time.

 

 

 

You might need to modfiy some files in your registry see here.

And how exactly the ME3 'englification' instruction is supposed to help with DAI?  

[Arthmost]

There ARE ways to do the 'market segmentation' without restricting the languages. Blizzard had done it for ages, steam does it all the time.

 

 

And how exactly the ME3 'englification' instruction is supposed to help with DAI?  

 

Last game I bought on steam (Lords of the Fallen) was restricted to Russian as well. This is becoming a common issue now.

 

Just do it the similar way I suppose?

[WindFury]

There ARE ways to do the 'market segmentation' without restricting the languages. Blizzard had done it for ages, steam does it all the time.

 

 

And how exactly the ME3 'englification' instruction is supposed to help with DAI?  

It works rather similar, you open regedit, you search for "Dragon Age Inquisition" and edit all the entries that are about language to en_US (F3 moves you to the next "Dragon Age Inquisition" string)

 

[tmp7704]

I do not expect Bioware/EA marketing strategy to be benevolent. It's business. But this decision seems ridiculous or just sloppy. Certainly I do not posses all the info behind it, maybe there is some reason, but for now it seams like:
 
- Hey, do you think that on the markets with more then 150 mln people between them there will be someone interested in buying the original version?
- Nah, screw them.

To be fair, this decision is (mostly) beneficial for the customers -- arranged in this manner they are able to sell the game on East European market cheaper than what it costs in Western Europe. The alternative would be to charge whole Europe equally (on Western Europe level) screwing the majority of Eastern Europe customers who aren't interested in the English text option.

Yes, it does affect negatively the small amount of people in Eastern Europe who would rather play the game in English, but these people still have option to get that version of the game through 3rd party retailers from the West, without actually having to resort to piracy.

You can blame the current situation mostly on the Western Europe people who, despite having much higher income would choose to get the game from the Eastern Europe branch. That's most likely what caused such drastic measures.

[NRieh]

 

It works rather similar, you open regedit, you search for "Dragon Age Inquisition" and edit all the entries that are about language to en_US

Well, the thing is to make RU_ME3 work in English one does not need to regedit anything at all. One just copy-pastes the proper files into the proper folder. Trust me on this, because I've lived with that 'int_pack' for something like 2 years already, from the earliest patches and up to the 'Citadel DLC'. Also, one does not actually need to rename anything, because once several tlk s are placed in the folder along with the rest of the 'pack' files, the 'language' option in game stops being greyed-out. One can just switch the languages in a normal way via the settings.  

 

Probably, they suggest doing that 'just in case', I don't know.  Still don't see how it might help with DAI.  

[WindFury]

Well, the thing is to make RU_ME3 work in English one does not need to regedit anything at all. One just copy-pastes the proper files into the proper folder. Trust me on this, because I've lived with that 'int_pack' for something like 2 years already, from the earliest patches and up to the 'Citadel DLC'. Also, one does not actually need to rename anything, because once several tlk s are placed in the folder along with the rest of the 'pack' files, the 'language' option in game stops being greyed-out. One can just switch the languages in a normal way via the settings.  

 

Probably, they suggest doing that 'just in case', I don't know.  Still don't see how it might help with DAI.  

 

I copy-pasted the files in ME3 - it didn`t work for me until i changed the registry. So, i would try to copy-past first, see if it works, and if it is not, then change the registry.

[Pani Mauser]

To be fair, this decision is (mostly) beneficial for the customers -- arranged in this manner they are able to sell the game on East European market cheaper than what it costs in Western Europe. The alternative would be to charge whole Europe equally (on Western Europe level) screwing the majority of Eastern Europe customers who aren't interested in the English text option.

Yes, it does affect negatively the small amount of people in Eastern Europe who would rather play the game in English, but these people still have option to get that version of the game through 3rd party retailers from the West, without actually having to resort to piracy.

You can blame the current situation mostly on the Western Europe people who, despite having much higher income would choose to get the game from the Eastern Europe branch. That's most likely what caused such drastic measures.

It was not cheaper when it went on preorder, the price was exactly the same. It's cheaper now only because exchange rate dropped by a lot. If it would not drop, the price of the game in Origin would have been exactly the same as for Western world(also, many people preordered on day one, so could not even benefit from the exchange rate changes). And this is the problem right there. We pay the same, but only get lame translation with no original text options.

[Ashen Nedra]

Except that the aggressive market segmentation is the most likely answer:

- you don't like the Russian version

- then buy the international one, it's even offered in your local stores

 

Unless I misunderstood? Didn't Arthmost posted that the international version was being offered in local stores in Russia? Not the case in France since French people as a general rule like their games translated.

[Arthmost]

Except that the aggressive market segmentation is the most likely answer:

- you don't like the Russian version

- then buy the international one, it's even offered in your local stores

 

Unless I misunderstood? Didn't Arthmost posted that the international version was being offered in local stores in Russia? Not the case in France since French people as a general rule like their games translated.

 

Unlikely that I posted something like that, because I don't know. I haven't visited offline game stores for eternity now. I buy everything on the web.

 

But you can just go ahead and buy a US/UK version on amazon.com or amazon.co.uk respectively without as much as a VPN. It's only required if you want a purchase through Origin and Mexican is the best version for Russians in this case.

[tmp7704]

It was not cheaper when it went on preorder, the price was exactly the same. It's cheaper now only because exchange rate dropped by a lot. If it would not drop, the price of the game in Origin would have been exactly the same as for Western world(also, many people preordered on day one, so could not even benefit from the exchange rate changes).

It was (and still is) considerably cheaper when buying from Poland, and Euro:PLN exchange rate wasn't affected the way Russian currency is recently. More importantly, if the reasoning behind this change is correct, it is a result of such purchases happening with older games 1-2+ years back, not specifically just now.

[NRieh]

 

 

- you don't like the Russian version
- then buy the international one, it's even offered in your local stores

Russian Origin only sells Russian copies, without VPN tricks  or  3rd party key-selling sites  we do not have an access to the Int version. Both are not technically legal, and I can't say I trust those sites enough to pay with my mastercard.

 

 I'm pretty sure that Russian DVD is going to be same as Origin, because that's how it had been with ME3. Console players never had a chance to fix their language. 

[Arthmost]

Russian Origin only sells Russian copies, without VPN tricks  or  3rd party key-selling sites  we do not have an access to the Int version. Both are not technically legal, and I can't say I trust those sites enough to pay with my mastercard.

 

 I'm pretty sure that Russian DVD is going to be same as Origin, because that's how it had been with ME3. Console players never had a chance to fix their language. 

 

You don't trust amazon?

[tmp7704]

Russian Origin only sells Russian copies, without VPN tricks  or  3rd party key-selling sites  we do not have an access to the Int version. Both are not technically legal, and I can't say I trust those sites enough to pay with my mastercard.

Since GMG also sells Origin keys I don't think it's illegal per se -- they're too big outlet to operate in this manner for years without EA lawyers getting involved, if it was indeed the case. Similarly, there's nothing illegal in buying foreign version of the game from Amazon, e.g.

[NRieh]

You don't trust amazon?

"Note: Currently, this item is available only to customers located in the United States and who have a U.S. billing address."

[tmp7704]

"Note: Currently, this item is available only to customers located in the United States and who have a U.S. billing address."

What about the European version from the UK store? It doesn't appear to have such note.

[NRieh]

What about the European version from the UK store? It doesn't appear to have such note.

50GBP for normal digital?? It's ~30% more expensive then EU price and we get DD for something like 40% of that price.

[tmp7704]

50? It shows £39.85 for me...

Also note this isn't digital version, but physical copy on a DVD.

[Ashen Nedra]

Sorry Arthmost, another guy on the first page of the discussion :

 

Kantr, on 06 Nov 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

I got the russian version of me3 and I could play it in nz and now uk so I don't know what you are talking about.

exactly, you don't.  because if you buy let say BF3 through Origin, you will have your region lock. You buy it region free which will cost you 10$ more - you will have a 'full' game.

Another example is DAO and DAA. Both games were in russian language with horrible vo and translation, however few years later i can play it in full english.

 

Difference in price* and language packages avaliable makes you wonder what you actually buying. And i can tell you for sure, from a guy who is a reseller - that DAI do have region lock:

- Russian, Ukraine and CIS.

- Region free (for 5$ more).

 

how about that?

 

*(because difference in price is around 25-30$)

[NRieh]

I'm not sure what are you looking at, I'm reading this:

 

Dragon Age Inquisition

by Electronic Arts
Price: £49.99
Platform: PC Download

Edition: Standard Edition
This item will be released on 21 November 2014 at 00:00 (UK local time - GMT/BST)
Pre-order now! Sold by Amazon Media EU S.à r.l. Price inclusive of VAT if applicable.

 

Probably they sell DVDs cheaper? I don't know, but it makes no sense either, I don't need a DVD, because I'd need to buy an external DVD just to install it, lol.

Some EU prices for the origin standart key are ~30-40 euros.

[Kantr]

Well, the thing is to make RU_ME3 work in English one does not need to regedit anything at all. One just copy-pastes the proper files into the proper folder. Trust me on this, because I've lived with that 'int_pack' for something like 2 years already, from the earliest patches and up to the 'Citadel DLC'. Also, one does not actually need to rename anything, because once several tlk s are placed in the folder along with the rest of the 'pack' files, the 'language' option in game stops being greyed-out. One can just switch the languages in a normal way via the settings.  
 
Probably, they suggest doing that 'just in case', I don't know.  Still don't see how it might help with DAI.

Englishify is probably a better word.
 
I linked to that article because it would probably be similar. I had to do both to get my version into english.
 
 
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50GBP for normal digital?? It's ~30% more expensive then EU price and we get DD for something like 40% of that price.

Boohoo, I've had to pay 59.99 for the deluxe edition. Just buy it from Amazon france or something.

[Kantr]

Sorry Arthmost, another guy on the first page of the discussion :

 

Kantr, on 06 Nov 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

exactly, you don't.  because if you buy let say BF3 through Origin, you will have your region lock. You buy it region free which will cost you 10$ more - you will have a 'full' game.

Another example is DAO and DAA. Both games were in russian language with horrible vo and translation, however few years later i can play it in full english.

 

Difference in price* and language packages avaliable makes you wonder what you actually buying. And i can tell you for sure, from a guy who is a reseller - that DAI do have region lock:

- Russian, Ukraine and CIS.

- Region free (for 5$ more).

 

how about that?

 

*(because difference in price is around 25-30$)

Why the heck do you have to re-quote that. I since learned that there was a region lock on it since I wrote that post. I wasn't aware of it at the time, and I'm definitely never buying a russian region free key ever again.

[tmp7704]

I'm not sure what are you looking at

I put direct link in my post to what I'm looking at. Here it is again, just in case: http://www.amazon.co...D/dp/B00JXFXLAE

and this is what it looks like for me:



Note, there's toggles right under the "price and platform". The "PC download" is indeed more expensive and sits at £49.99. The physical copy is for some odd reasons 10 pounds cheaper.