I put direct link in my post to what I'm looking at. Here it is again, just in case: http://www.amazon.co...D/dp/B00JXFXLAE
and this is what it looks like for me:
Note, there's toggles right under the "price and platform". The "PC download" is indeed more expensive and sits at £49.99. The physical copy is for some odd reasons 10 pounds cheaper.
Yeah which is annoying as I want the DDE but the cheaper version really appeals to me (GMG had it for 35 for awhile)
@tmp7704
You're looking at the PC-DVD, not on the PC-Download.
I've told you that I'm not interested in buying a DVD. It's expensive as it is + delivery + I have no use for it.
Err yes, I've said it from the beginning I was looking at the DVD option.@tmp7704
You're looking at the PC-DVD, not on the PC-Download.
I've told you that I'm not interested in buying a DVD. It's expensive as it is + delivery + I have no use for it.
Well, it would be nice if they offered the 'international' edition with all the languages for the higher price alongside the regional one in the Origin. I`m not sure what`s stopping them from that. I mean, initially i thought there won`t be any regional locks, due to what Derek French said back in april, and i found out that there are after i pre-odered. And we didn`t have any confirmation that it's locked until these last days, so the time to find a new deal has passed.
Thanks, now i`m not that worried about getting the English text files. xD
I am stoked by the amount of hookers and blow I can spend 350 PLN on (approx cost of imported English langauge DA3 in Poland). PLUS I can have the game DIgital Rights Management free. And if I do not like it - I try before I buy - I can just dump it guilt-free. No buyer remorse. [Back in the day there used to be software evaluation clubs so I am acquainted to how it can work.] I am not into MMO game orgies but I can imagine IP-specific region mirrors segregating everyone into rooms... not unlike the brainwave behind DVDs. All Slavic language players to the right....
Let me see your tattoo. Here is your soap...
Uhm, what? 40 pounds (gmg price from the /vip room which costs you nothing to access) * 5.3 (current exchange rate) = ~212 PLN. That's whole 30 PLN more than buying the Polish/Russian edition from Origin. BFD.I am stoked by the amount of hookers and blow I can spend 350 PLN on (approx cost of imported English langauge DA3 in Poland).
. And yes, the game is more expensive to buy than the Russian/Polish version
it's more expensive then EU or US. No wonder no one tries to region-lock it, lol.
I could possibly live with an option to buy native EU\US via the origin ( or Amazon, why not?), but I'm not given such an option. As WindFury had mentioned, the announce was too late, and we have little time to search for the alternative.
As for 'that's why they restrict your language - you've got a cheap price' - I can only repeat that steam does restrict regions too. They set different prices, and I can neither share nor gift my CIS-based games to my EU friends. All those games are in English, however. Sometimes with 'Russian' as an option. So don't use that as some sort of excuse on their account.
It is more expensive than the US version (which I believe is caused by US market operating with far lower/non existent VAT markups) but what is the price you are presented with for the EU version if you connect with IP from Western Europe? I haven't bothered to check in a while, so I'm curious. Can you post some data?it's more expensive then EU or US. No wonder no one tries to region-lock it, lol.
Yes, Steam does charge regional prices, and buying from Poland it charges me as much as they charge the Western EU customers. (and no option to buy a cheaper, local version from them) Which is of no real benefit to bulk of Eastern EU customers, so I fail to see how this is overall a better solution.As for 'that's why they restrict your language - you've got a cheap price' - I can only repeat that steam does restrict regions too. They set different prices, and I can neither share nor gift my CIS-based games to my EU friends.
Uhm, what? 40 pounds (gmg price from the /vip room which costs you nothing to access) * 5.3 (current exchange rate) = ~212 PLN. That's whole 30 PLN more than buying the Polish/Russian edition from Origin. BFD.
You're not quoting the actual exchange... you're going by the Internet pulse.
The real rate is, well, to be totally honest, whatever the credit card companies figure they can get away with charging. I just paid 120 PLN to the credit card for The World of Fire & Ice gazetteer, which was supposed to be 114 PLN according to the credit card at the moment Amazon charged the card/shipped. So the credit card grabbed another 6 PLN from the initial exchange rate it showed me just because it calculated it could.
Should I complain? Should I return the book, at my postage cost? For 6 PLN ($2 USD at the Internet rate)? Do not underestimate the power to nickel and dime your way to riches.
To Kantr- sorry, then. Looks like they definitely screwed you over this time.
I'm going by the calculator from waluty.onet.pl which uses the averaged official rate and has been pretty accurate for me through the years. Even if it's not absolutely precise and you get extra exchange fees and such, the difference may be at best a few % like you note in your own example (120 vs 114), not the absurd and hysterical hyperbole that's 350 vs 200-odd.You're not quoting the actual exchange... you're going by the Internet pulse.
Didn't read the whole thread, so sorry if this had already been discussed, but I just don't understand the whole thing. They cut the original text, make a translation(extra effort and expences), than sell it for a CHEAPER price and block me from using the original product. What the hell.
Didn't read the whole thread, so sorry if this had already been discussed, but I just don't understand the whole thing. They cut the original text, make a translation(extra effort and expences), than sell it for a CHEAPER price and block me from using the original product. What the hell.
Welcome to our club of EA haters.
I managed to obtain file hashes to English preload and compare it to my Russian preload I downloaded from Origin
The only files that are differ files in __Installer folder(of no importance, probably contains list of files to delete on uninstall), files in Support folder (also of no importance, just docs in different languages) and most importantly files in Data\Win32\loctext folder: en.sb, en.toc for English version and ru.sb, ru.toc for Russian. The files hve approximately the same size and are to small to contain text localization.
After checking those files in text viewer I noticed that they contain only paths to actual localization files:
win32/loctext/en/text/da3/layouts/multiplayer/mporlais/mporlais01/mporlais01
da3/loc/texttable/en/da3/layouts/valroyeaux/val_blackwall_prison/val_blackwall_prison_win32
Those files are not present in preload and I believe they will only become available after the game launches in 3 days.
I hope copying those localization files from English version will be enough to play the game in a way it was intended instead of playing with butchered translation(I had bad experience with Russian DAO and i don't want that anymore)
I managed to obtain file hashes to English preload and compare it to my Russian preload I downloaded from Origin
The only files that are differ files in __Installer folder(of no importance, probably contains list of files to delete on uninstall), files in Support folder (also of no importance, just docs in different languages) and most importantly files in Data\Win32\loctext folder: en.sb, en.toc for English version and ru.sb, ru.toc for Russian. The files hve approximately the same size and are to small to contain text localization.
After checking those files in text viewer I noticed that they contain only paths to actual localization files:
win32/loctext/en/text/da3/layouts/multiplayer/mporlais/mporlais01/mporlais01
da3/loc/texttable/en/da3/layouts/valroyeaux/val_blackwall_prison/val_blackwall_prison_win32
Those files are not present in preload and I believe they will only become available after the game launches in 3 days.
I hope copying those localization files from English version will be enough to play the game in a way it was intended instead of playing with butchered translation(I had bad experience with Russian DAO and i don't want that anymore)
That's VERY helpful, thanks a lot for your effort.
Have you also checked the registry values? Do you believe they are of no importance?
Thanks for the idea
I checked the registry and there are a lot of places where locale for the game is listed:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\BioWare\Dragon Age Inquisition\Locale
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Origin Games\<id>\Locale - for the game and each piece of DLC
32bit systems may have slightly different paths
English version has each of those values set to en_US, Russian has ru_RU
So we probably can change them to change the language once proper English files are copied
Thanks for the idea
I checked the registry and there are a lot of places where locale for the game is listed:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\BioWare\Dragon Age Inquisition\Locale
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Origin Games\<id>\Locale - for the game and each piece of DLC
32bit systems may have slightly different paths
English version has each of those values set to en_US, Russian has ru_RU
So we probably can change them to change the language once proper English files are copied
I'm sorry for not being a pro in registry editing. But is there some way of conveniently looking for ru_RU values in registry but only in designated locations related to Dragon Age? I believe that will help a lot of people here get around editing their registry faster. I know of no better way than just searching via ctrl+F.
The fastest way would be to search for "dragon" or "dragon age" in the registry
It will find all the "folders" that have dragon age in them including the ones that have Locale parameter
Glad too see I'm not alone in this preference because dubbed games seems like old dubbed chinese movies: something feels off.
But, on the other hand, I know not everybody knows english around the world and they want to extend sales by reaching everyone possible, thus the translation/dubbing, but thanks to the use of good sense, on Titanfall I could use the coommand line setting "-language english" on the game's properties to avoid the bizarre feeling of something translated to portuguese.
I believe(hope) this setting will be available too on DAI
So we probably can change them to change the language once proper English files are copied
No doubt we can, but as I had mentioned before in case of ME3 reg-editing was not needed. I doubt it's any more important with DAI.
I know not everybody knows english around the world and they want to extend sales by reaching everyone possible, thus the translation
Thus the translation, yes, a good option for those who does not speak English well enough. But this option is only good when there are others as well.
If you would search the forum, topic starter, you may find topics such as yours about this issue. BW staff member actually mentioned, that from BW side they want to deliver full experience with the game to the end user (which includes all language packages).
However EA may or already have different opinion on the subject, with their regional policies.
They do not consider that some people may work in other countries. Or that people have to stay in other contries for one reason or another.
Yes in Russia, as in a second world country, you may buy let say DAI for 40$. However upon return to your home in let say Sweden or Germany - you have to buy the game again. For euro this time. But euro =/= dollar, not to mention difference in prices in general.
No thank you dear EA. Such approach is one of the reasons why i don't buy DAI.
http://forum.bioware.../#entry16477094 #Derek French response.
"Language selection will be available in some manner within the game"
So... you write an entire post about how language selection won't be available and end it with a quote from the devs saying that it will be.
That post is from 10 days ago. It was confirmed since that ultimately language selection won't be available for the Polish/Russian version of the game. (little more details on that a page or two upthread)So... you write an entire post about how language selection won't be available and end it with a quote from the devs saying that it will be.
I'm going by the calculator from waluty.onet.pl which uses the averaged official rate and has been pretty accurate for me through the years. Even if it's not absolutely precise and you get extra exchange fees and such, the difference may be at best a few % like you note in your own example (120 vs 114), not the absurd and hysterical hyperbole that's 350 vs 200-odd.
That won't be the credit card rate, of course. It would be the local bank rate, which is published using yesterday's values. [It works that way in Poland - it is hourly real-time rates back at my home. It is a good way to make money on exchange if you have enough cash lying around.]
Amazon also charges a rate too, which I believe is higher than the credit card rate. I opt out of that. [That is when you get to see your purchase price in PLN instead of GBP or USD] Current USD exchange rate, as of last night, is 3.6. I picked up some films for my region 1 player.
And add in shipping if you are interested in the CD media - which would make sense if you are assuring yourself of an English langauge version rather than taking your chance on dowloading through the RUS/PL IT interface after paying in foreign currency. I mean, stupid people, right?
I really don't see how it'd be necessary. To put it in simplest way I can -- three days ago I bought regular edition of DA:I from GMG. Connecting from Poland, using Paypal. My total cost amounted to 39.77 GBP which is (still) equivalent of 212 PLN. That's the entire cost of acquiring the EU version of the game. Not 350 PLN or anything this crazy.And add in shipping if you are interested in the CD media - which would make sense if you are assuring yourself of an English langauge version rather than taking your chance on dowloading through the RUS/PL IT interface after paying in foreign currency. I mean, stupid people, right?
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