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Limitations on names imposed by the surnames.....frustrating


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I think names ending in A with Adaar sound fine. My first playthrough will be someone called 'Basra Adaar'.

LOL, that may sound odd in my ears, but it has a funny sort of weight.



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This is the ONE thing... I will nerd rage about concerning Bioware.  

 

I hate, with all the rage a nerd can have, the fact that they force last names on my character... 

 

I would so much rather be called "Sir" "Captain" Inquisitor" "Jackass"  whatever.... than "Shepard" or "Hawke".

 

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In my headcanon - my mage Trevelyan will have abandoned his family name for "Nox"  This name I use here is a character I've made and re-made for nearly three decades in a hundred different faces. 

 

That "Trevelyan" or "Amell" or "Hawke" was forced on me... drives me bonkers. 

 

I do everything I can to ignore it.  

 

How "this" is okay for roleplayers - but god forbid a few stats can't be adjusted - is beyond me.

 

Anyway - end rant - still in love with DA:I.  



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I can relate. I had planned to name my human Elian but that's off the table now because Elian Trevelyan just sounds stupid. Sadly I have an unhealthy obsession with naming my characters, I want their names to both sound good and be lore appropriate, but they should also fit with those of the rest of the cast. So it takes me ages to come up with names I am pleased with, it's indeed frustrating. 

Nevertheless I like the surnames, they make me feel like my character is actually part of the world.



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This again?

 

Gooood, good. I can feel your anger.



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Uhh...I swear Amell is stressed on the second syllable?

I've never had that impression, but at least it's possible. Just as "Lavellan" might as well be stressed on the first syllable without sounding odd. No such luck with "Trevelyan" or "Cadash" though.



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LOL, that may sound odd in my ears, but it has a funny sort of weight.

 

I chose it because she was born tal vashoth, and in the qunari tongue basra means 'foreign to the qun' or 'thing' or something that is useless. I imagine her parents named her that as a mark of pride that she will grow up outside the Qun and yeah.



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I've never had that impression, but at least it's possible. Just as "Lavellan" might as well be stressed on the first syllable without sounding odd. No such luck with "Trevelyan" or "Cadash" though.

 

I'm certain it's Leandra a-MELL, not Leandra A-mell.


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I would so much rather be called "Sir" "Captain" Inquisitor" "Jackass"  whatever.... than "Shepard" or "Hawke".

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How "this" is okay for roleplayers - but god forbid a few stats can't be adjusted - is beyond me.

 

Anyway - end rant - still in love with DA:I.  

Indeed so. I have my reservations about the stats thing, but naming is far more important. It won't prevent me from liking the game the same as you, if it's otherwise good, but it is problematic for roleplaying.



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I name my Dwarves after Tyrion or Muradin, sounds good enough for me.



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They are necessary, because from what we've heard background is more than just text, and we'll actually encounter people related to our background in the game. If you make a dwarf, you are a Cadash, and when you encounter people connected to your background (family, rivals, what have you) they will themselves be called such and will likely call you that as well. If you could make up your own last name, there would be a disconnect between the name you created and the name you actually have.

 

I'll get back to that once I know how often these surnames are actually spoken in the game. I suspect, not often at all.



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Just call them whatever you want and stop making such a big deal about it. Seriously. It's not the end of the world.



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I do understand wanting to totally create a name but I'm pretty sure they've said some NPC will refer to you by surname at some points (I could be wrong on this though). If this is the case, then for me the trade off on getting to completely choose my characters name is worth it. Sir/Inquisitor/any other title is fine most of the time, but I think it'd feel odd in some. Talking to love interests is the obvious one, but there could be others.



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@Ieldra:  It's not that I think stat alteration isn't important ( I don't find adjusting to new rules as frustrating as some) - it's just that something like a freaking name is pretty much the apex of what it is to roleplay.  

 

Name

Race

Profession

Stats

Skills

Gear

 

And honestly from Profession to Gear (race is a cheat as I almost universally play human) I'm totally flexible with - most rules will never bother me.  Class-less systems... auto-level stats... 100 skills or 4... tons of gear or none.  Etc. etc.

 

I actually have zero to add to this thread other than my total disdain for forcing last names - so I think I'll go troll a mage/templar debate.  



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I can relate. I had planned to name my human Elian but that's off the table now because Elian Trevelyan just sounds stupid. Sadly I have an unhealthy obsession with naming my characters, I want their names to both sound good and be lore appropriate, but they should also fit with those of the rest of the cast. So it takes me ages to come up with names I am pleased with, it's indeed frustrating. 

Nevertheless I like the surnames, they make me feel like my character is actually part of the world.

Yep, same here. I don't actually mind the surnames themselves so much, except in how they make naming difficult.



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The naming for Trevelyan has been tricky for me too. I gave up on trying to find a name myself early on and used a generator instead. It gave me Pia and Beverly and those work fine.



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I'll get back to that once I know how often these surnames are actually spoken in the game. I suspect, not often at all.


In Origins you were called an Aeducan all throughout your origin and several times when returning to Orzammar. Cousland was also named several times when your background surfaced. The mages... less so, as the story prioritized you being a mage over you being a person.

The point is, once you have been given a background that includes a family, you can't encounter that family with family without the family name being involved, unless the family name doesn't matter. The qunari might get away with that in Inquisition, maybe the Dalish as well as they don't seem to be attached to family names, but the Cadash are basically a mafia family, and name is really important in the mafia and as a human you are a member of the noble Trevelyan house, which relies on its name.

Even if you aren't called by the name specifically, the name itself is very likely to be mentioned in at least half of the races.

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Can't say it's been stressing me much... Then again, my latest DA:O character proudly sports the name of Shorty Aeducan, so I'm hardly the best judge of naming schemes.



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There's always going to be some poor soul with a name akin to Phillip Philips. RP as your character's mother, maybe if the name doesn't sound good to you, it does to her. I know people whose names don't flow because they were named after deceased family/family friends or some important character in fiction.

Maybe there's a popular book that the parents love, and your character just got the short end of the stick and was named the equivalent of Khaleesi.
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I name my Dwarves after Tyrion or Muradin, sounds good enough for me.

Do you mean Moradin?  Or do you somehow associate Thedas dwarves with Shaido Aiel?

Or maybe Moridin, and you like your dwarves to be insane fallen philosophers serving the elder one?



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Do you mean Moradin?  Or do you somehow associate Thedas dwarves with Shaido Aiel?

Or maybe Moridin, and you like your dwarves to be insane fallen philosophers serving the elder one?

 

I think it's from Muradin Bronzebeard , a dwarf in WOW.



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I think it's from Muradin Bronzebeard , a dwarf in WOW.

Ahh, thanks.  I have never touched WOW, so Muradin for me immediately translated to Couladin's brother.

 

Though having written that post earlier, I am now myself seriously considering my first 'dark' playthrough being a mage based on Moridin/Ishamael/Elan Morin Tedronai.



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I've never been good at choosing a full name and I know that's not the issue.  I have a hard enough time choosing a name to suit my character and always end up with something that I like or is the name of someone I like.  It seems funny to me though to name a Dalish elf Elizabeth or something like that.  Can't say I'm familiar with Elven lore names. 

 

Naming a Qunari or Dwarf seems even harder.



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I wonder if anyone else has a problem with surnames imposing certain limitations on the names you can select. Particularly, the surnames sound all as if they should be stressed on the second syllable. That means using one-syllable first names just doesn't work because the name sounds awkward. Also, you can't have a Qunari female name end on an "a" because that sounds awkward with "Adaar". I try to avoid two-syllable names because everyone has one, but good-sounding three-syllable names aren't that easy to come by. The elf is easiest because you can pronoune them "Lávellan" as easily as "Lavéllan" and the former actually sounds more interesting.

 

As a result, I come up with a dozen names I might want to use and I have to discard them just because they don't fit the surnames. it is frustrating.

 

In DAO and DA2 I didn't have these problems because "Amell" and "Tabris" are both stressed on the first syllable, which imposes fewer limitations.

I disagree, I quite like the sound of "Vasra Adaar" for my female qunari.



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...Also, you can't have a Qunari female name end on an "a" because that sounds awkward with "Adaar"...

Really? The default female qunari name Herah[citation needed], and I rather like the sound of heh-RAH uh-DAR. If you aren't careful, it turns into the one-word name "heradaar", which echoes the Qunari style, and being careful to reject the Qun every time she has to introduce herself to someone is exactly what I imagine my femqunquisitor would want.