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[HTTP 404]

Well,

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Then you know they decided to get around that problem by making him a miniature male Morrigan

 

Yah I know it.  I just put in extra maybes to not give anything away.  My main point stands that the if baby isn't going to be talked about much because the baby may not exist in some playthroughs

[Heimdall]

Yah I know it.  I just put in extra maybes to not give anything away.  My main point stands that the if baby isn't going to be talked about much because the baby may not exist in some playthroughs

Well I expect that's true

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Though remember this is 9-10 year old boy, not a baby. I actually suspect there will be a small sidequest series involving him, nothing pertaining to the main plot (Except MAYBE some very cryptic hints). I can't shake this idea in my head of Morrigan leaving the boy in Skyhold for a time when she has to go somewhere and the Inquisitor interacting with him then.

[wright1978]

Definitely don't want pregnancy arc in romances personally.

[frylock23]

As far as kids go, I think they could have done it for both male and female Hawkes the way their time frame went, but not so much with the story. I mean, DA2 took place over a decade and you weren't actively playing through all that time. It would have been entirely possible for there to have been a romance that produce a child and for the inconvenient bits to have taken place off screen with a child NPC then being present in Hawke's mansion during Act III for example.

 

How awkward would that have made the Hawke/Fenris one night stand whether you continued with the romance or not?

 

Now, I don't know what the timing in DA:I will be like, but constant play with no long gaps in the action wouldn't provide that kind of opportunity for the writers.

[Maconbar]

They could incorporate Sims4-style babies. Then you could hire a sitter to care for a crib.

[Doominike]

My opinion on the matter can be summed up as "Eww, f*** no"

[Heimdall]

As far as kids go, I think they could have done it for both male and female Hawkes the way their time frame went, but not so much with the story. I mean, DA2 took place over a decade and you weren't actively playing through all that time. It would have been entirely possible for there to have been a romance that produce a child and for the inconvenient bits to have taken place off screen with a child NPC then being present in Hawke's mansion during Act III for example.
 
How awkward would that have made the Hawke/Fenris one night stand whether you continued with the romance or not?
 
Now, I don't know what the timing in DA:I will be like, but constant play with no long gaps in the action wouldn't provide that kind of opportunity for the writers.

That actually could have been interesting, it'd be perfect for DA2 actually since there isn't much a driving urgency and imminent threat for most of the plot. I'll add it to my list of things that might have been great if DA2 got another two years or so of development time.

*Sandal would make a great baby sitter

[R0vena]

I think having a conversation with LI about such things could open a whole different can of worms.

"Darling, do you want children?" - "No."

Then what? We break off our romance? Or try to force him/her to change his/her mind? What if he/she doesn't? Then a lot of topics in BSN popping up  "Why Cullen/Cassandra doesn't want my babies?"

 

A lot safer to leave that to headcanon, in my opinion.

[jomymarquis]

If they make Harvest Moon: Dragon Age then sure, give me the kidlet option. Otherwise I have zero interest. Even when I think about my Warden or Hawke beyond the game and what their life might be life, I never think about kids. Because I hate kids lol. I mean I suppose it would be an interesting OPTION but... time consuming and probably messy to work out. Rather that attention was put on something unrelated to spawning.

[leaguer of one]

It's something I'm curious about when it comes to BioWare games and romance arcs in them. Why is a child (seemingly) never conceived during a romance between the player-character and their romance of choice?

 

 

...Morrigan doesn't count?

[Grieving Natashina]

I said this in a similar thread a few days ago and it still applies.

 

I don't mind, however I would put a few caveats on that.  

 

1) No making babies to save a life.

2) No more OGBs.  The whole thing was fairly silly.  

3) It remains optional.

 

I personally do not want to deal with children in a DA game.  However, I'm open minded to the choice for the most part.  I'm trying not to be too picky, but I'm usually fine with new ideas like this so long as it doesn't directly impact my game.  If folks want that for their game, I see no issue with that.

[R0vena]

I am not against choice as such.

I am just not sure how it could be implemented to be satisfactory to all sides.

If all LI will automatically want (or not) children just depending on the wish of the PC, it seems... a bit off to me. I am not against the idea, but still think headcanon would work better.

[rda]

I am not against choice as such.
I am just not sure how it could be implemented to be satisfactory to all sides.
If all LI will automatically want (or not) children just depending on the wish of the PC, it seems... a bit off to me. I am not against the idea, but still think headcanon would work better.

But I don't think you should implement it at the wish of the PC. If Cass doesn't want kids, you shouldn't be allowed to have them. If Josie does, why not? It seems pretty natural at some point to talk to your LI about their wishes and desires for the future, to include family (or not.). I'm not advocating player choice trumping all.

[R0vena]

But I don't think you should implement it at the wish of the PC. If Cass doesn't want kids, you shouldn't be allowed to have them. If Josie does, why not? It seems pretty natural at some point to talk to your LI about their wishes and desires for the future, to include family (or not.). I'm not advocating player choice trumping all.

The question is - a) will it be satisfactory to players who feel the kids are essential and in the same time want to romance Cassandra? b)what if Josie wants kids and PC doesn't? Is romance then null and void? 

[rda]

The question is - a) will it be satisfactory to players who feel the kids are essential and in the same time want to romance Cassandra? b)what if Josie wants kids and PC doesn't? Is romance then null and void?

You find things out about your LI all the time that may cause you to break it off or deepen the relationship. Kids are just another one of those things.

It's like if Cass believes in the Maker and you are a Dalish elf and think the Maker is a bunch of crap-you need to decide-do you want to continue the relationship with Cass and keep your trap shut when the Maker is brought up, or do you break it off and find someone more compatible?

[Navasha]

No thanks.    For me, that is something that you should head-canon into your own personal stories if that is your desire.    The game really isn't a life simulator.     Children really fall outside the scope of what the game is intending to portray...  as in the events of the story.

[Sully13]

But what if im not the mother?

[R0vena]

You find things out about your LI all the time that may cause you to break it off or deepen the relationship. Kids are just another one of those things.

It's like if Cass believes in the Maker and you are a Dalish elf and think the Maker is a bunch of crap-you need to decide-do you want to continue the relationship with Cass and keep your trap shut when the Maker is brought up, or do you break it off and find someone more compatible?

... and then suddenly the child issue becomes one of the necessary points of the romance instead of a cute little extra. Race-gating, sex-gating, belief-gating (possibly), child-stance-gating....   really?

[Grieving Natashina]

... and then suddenly the child issue becomes one of the necessary points of the romance instead of a cute little extra. Race-gating, sex-gating, belief-gating (possibly), child-stance-gating....   really?

Okay, child-stance gating would be a total deal breaker for me.  However, I'm not worried about BioWare doing something that silly.  Still, scary thought before coffee. 

[Sully13]

always said i want a Page or Squire.

[XMissWooX]

I can't really see child-birth and child-rearing working within the game proper. Female PCs and companions would need to be taken out of action for a while, and a time span of +9 months would be required, which might not work for the narrative.

 

That said, I think it could work in certain situations. For example - the PC has the option to broach the subject of children with their LI. At this point, the PC has the option to express an interest in having children (whether biological or adopted) or to express opposition to having children. If (and only if) they express an interest in children, perhaps a few hints (e.g. a conversation towards endgame, epilogue slides, etc.) could be included to imply that the PC or their LI is pregnant. Any child-birth or child-rearing would then happen off-screen after the game has finished, leaving the rest up to head-canon.

[KC_Prototype]

It be cool but they kind of shut that down already. 

[XMissWooX]

Much the same way Morrigan was handled; "... and she may have even been with child."

 

Very much the same way, only this approach would also allow female PCs and gay partnerships the option too.