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#26
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You're making assumptions because you're a fan of the devs.

 

If they are going to release DLC 1 day after the game launches, of course it's content that's left out just to be downloaded as a DLC.

 

It's small cosmetic additions/items that are stripped out of the game so that they can make this marketing tactic.All evidence points to it.

 

AND IT'S WORKING.Everyone's like "Yeah, CDPR so awesome, free DLC!"

 

You are aware that companies can still keep working on the project, even if it is finalized right? There are weeks, if not months, before the game finally hits QA and goes out the doors. Most companies will have teams start working on a new project or an expansion.

 

If you look into what they have been putting into Witcher 2, you would see that this really isn't some public stunt. They had devs working in and out on making combat mods and overhauls in their spare time because they love their game. The fact that you haven't even heard of it is evidence that they aren't trying to make a show out of it.

 

Also, I am sure BioWare devs would have LOVED to do the same thing as well. But BioWare is a big company under a big corporation. They have a much tighter schedule and much higher demands to meet.


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Right. CDPR does something it's a marketing trick. BioWare does something they are AWESOME.

 

LOL. Reality check everyone.

 

You're making assumptions about our criteria of criticisng game features.

 

Anyone who thinks reasonably about this DLC decision can easilly see how it made for marketing reasons.

 

mediocre games? uw0tm8

 

Personal preference.



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Yeah, I want high quality story DLC, similar to the Legacy and ME3's Citadel DLC.  I am absolutely willing and prepared to pay for it.  The thing is, I don't expect Bioware or EA to love me as a consumer, I expect them to make a quality product and charge me an appropriate amount for it.  This way the company keeps producing content for me to enjoy and the staff continue to get paid and I'm really happy with that model.   :D



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 The game would be shipped as a final build. There would be DLC teams to create dlx (for extra money) and they would start way before release. (notice how they start DA:I during da2?)
So.. no.. nothing was removed. It is DLC and theyre giving it away free. Not a marketing ploy (although it is a marketing strategy, it is not what you make it out to be)

 



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I like when people fall on the most basic marketing strategy over and over again.

 

"UH SEE WE GIVE CONTENT FOR FREE, WE ARE THE GOOD GUY THE OTHERS ARE THE BAD GUYS THE ONE WHO STEAL YOUR MONEY, PUT US ON AN ALTAR EVEN IF WE MAKE MEDIOCRE GAMES".

Ha! I hope you're not implying that BW hasn't made any MEDIOCRE GAMES.


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I will certainly be buying The Witcher 3. The Witcher 2 was an awesome game (better than DA2 imho).


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I have nothing to add, I just came here for the Dragon Age vs. The Witcher slap fight.


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Oh look, this dlc is clearly very deep: including: Hair and beard options. Armor. An alternate appearance. And some random 'kill x stuff' mission.



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I am asking a question about what Bioware plans to do in regards to DLC for Inquisition. Not sure how such a question has nothing to do with the game I am asking it of?

 

No you aren't, and being that intentionally disingenuous means you have very little respect for anyone that posts here.



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I have nothing to add, I just came here for the Dragon Age vs. The Witcher slap fight.

 

It think it's infantile though. "It's a marketing trick." LMAO. Some people clearly weren't following the Witcher 2. Now BW could do the same with "official patches" by introducing more Qunari hair or whatever the fans are ******** about at the moment and it wouldn't be considered a 'marketing trick' to this lot. It'd be about how 'awesome BW is and how much they love their fans'.

 

Like I said... Reality check.


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Dear lord, Slogbarg... Again?

 

I was worrying what has become of you. I believe a whole day went by without some thread of yours.

 

While it is touching that you should feel the need to worry about me and constantly seek enlightenment through my words of wisdom if you actually look at my posting habits you will see that such gaps are not uncommon for me.



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Hmm interesting not my kind of rpg but whatever , though to be fair the free dlc sound like what people have been complaining about for the last little while , side/fetch quests and more hair options ! lol



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You're making assumptions about our criteria of criticisng game features.

 

Anyone who thinks reasonably about this DLC decision can easilly see how it made for marketing reasons.

 

 

Personal preference.

The Witcher 2 is one of the better RPG that's come out this decade. Only rival are Divinity: Original Sin and Dragon Age: Origins.

 

If you can't recognise it, even if you don't like the game, then I don't know what to say to you. 

 

They're being bros and giving us free stuff treating us consumers fairly. If you think that's a marketing trick, and celebrate Bioware for charging you stuff with day one PWC, then dude, YOU'RE A FANBOY.


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Bioware: We have added the multiplayer mode.

Some of the players: I hate it! Why don't you focus on the single player?

 

Other Companies: We have some free DLC.

Some of the players: I love you!

 

So what if Bioware say that "We have a big DLC coming soon, which is the multiplayer mode. And it's free!" Will it still be blamed?

What if Bioware say that "We have a big DLC that you can play as a qunari inquisitor. And it's free!" Will people say that "Why do you cut off this content and make it a DLC?"



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Bioware: We have added the multiplayer mode.

Some of the players: I hate it! Why don't you focus on the single player?

 

Other Companies: We have some free DLC.

Some of the players: I love you!

 

So what if Bioware say that "We have a big DLC coming soon, which is the multiplayer mode. And it's free!" Will it still be blamed?

What if Bioware say that "We have a big DLC that you can play as a qunari inquisitor. And it's free!" Will people say that "Why do you cut off this content and make it a DLC?"

No cause people aren't stupid. Everyone loves free stuff period. And the reason why people love CD Projekt Red is cause they keep giving us free stuff non stuff and treat you, the consumer fairly.



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The Witcher 2 is one of the better RPG that's come out this decade. Only rival are Divinity: Original Sin and Dragon Age: Origins.

 

If you can't recognise it, even if you don't like the game, then I don't know what to say to you. 

 

They're being bros and giving us free stuff treating us consumers fairly. If you think that's a marketing trick, and celebrate Bioware for charging you stuff with day one PWC, then dude, YOU'RE A FANBOY.

First of all, everyone has their own opinions on what they like or don't like.

Secondly, this far ahead they know already what DLC they are gonna hand out the day after it comes out? Or the week? Yes, that is a marketing trick, plain and simple. Seriously, if they would have said a week beforehand: "Hey guys, we just got some extra stuff done, of which we weren't sure we could, and it is coming your way!" then yes, it would be more plausible. Since it's so many months before the actual release and so shortly after the launch, it's obviously planned that way.



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Beauty is only skin deep.



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Beauty is only skin deep.

That's deep.



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First of all, everyone has their own opinions on what they like or don't like.

Secondly, this far ahead they know already what DLC they are gonna hand out the day after it comes out? Or the week? Yes, that is a marketing trick, plain and simple. Seriously, if they would have said a week beforehand: "Hey guys, we just got some extra stuff done, of which we weren't sure we could, and it is coming your way!" then yes, it would be more plausible. Since it's so many months before the actual release and so shortly after the launch, it's obviously planned that way.

 

Maybe the wording is spun to make it sound nicer. But it sounds like a patch that's going to include things the fanbase want or are unsatisfied with... for free... 

 

Where's that Qunari hair patch? Where's the casual clothing patch? If it's ever announced will it be free? 

 

I thought so. 



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What round is this, and why do people blame the studio bioware and not ea for these choices, well bioware is ea so sppouse it works.

But different corps and different styles of dlc also it seems, if its anything like how they did it with the witcher 2 the dlcs won't always be big but still nice.

But that is just the difference between how corps handle things, the witcher isn't a big title in some markets currently so doubt Microsoft offered red a big fat wad of cash for the first dlc. So we can't really say how red might have responded differently if they where offered a lot of money.

But why do people continue to do the whole ea vs red thing, the whole witcher vs dragon age thing. Why its true they ar eboth rpgs, they are still both very different styles.

 



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You're making assumptions about our criteria of criticisng game features.

Anyone who thinks reasonably about this DLC decision can easilly see how it made for marketing reasons.


Personal preference.

Go back in time, examine their previous free DLC and add consistency to that. Don't see much about marketing in there.

On the flip side to say Bioware does not care about fans is also not right.

You should focus all blame on the publishers ... EA

PS. I run anytime I see the words season pass

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Lol the comments "Red is so evil and manipulating for cutting out content and give it for free, I'm glad good companies like Ubisoft and EA exist that charge money for their cut out DLC."


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Yes, it's a marketing move. But I'd rather have this than Bioware doing a 'From Ashes' DLC that was on-disk at launch but was blatantly locked behind a paywall. Whether EA forces them to do this is irrelevant, the consumer still has to suffer for it. 



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No cause people aren't stupid. Everyone loves free stuff period. And the reason why people love CD Projekt Red is cause they keep giving us free stuff non stuff and treat you, the consumer fairly.

They are not free. They are included in the price of game. It's like you go to the supermarket and find that you can get a pack of 20g potato chips when you buy a pack of 200g chips. Free is good. But the most important thing is that the chips should be delicious. I won't blame the company who don't give me free chips.



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The Witcher 2 is one of the better RPG that's come out this decade. Only rival are Divinity: Original Sin and Dragon Age: Origins.

 

If you can't recognise it, even if you don't like the game, then I don't know what to say to you. 

 

They're being bros and giving us free stuff treating us consumers fairly. If you think that's a marketing trick, and celebrate Bioware for charging you stuff with day one PWC, then dude, YOU'RE A FANBOY.

 

 

It think it's infantile though. "It's a marketing trick." LMAO. Some people clearly weren't following the Witcher 2. Now BW could do the same with "official patches" by introducing more Qunari hair or whatever the fans are ******** about at the moment and it wouldn't be considered a 'marketing trick' to this lot. It'd be about how 'awesome BW is and how much they love their fans'.

 

Like I said... Reality check.

 

1.None of us ever said we are mindless fanboys who love everything Bioware does and eagerly await to give more money to EA via paid DLC.

The witcher 2 had a great "expansion pack" that was completely free, I was following and playing that game.

 

Regardless, I still believe it is fair to say these 16 FREE DLC packages are ways to market and sell the game.

 

2.Everyone has their personal favourite RPGs.I love the witcher series, some people don't, there are no universal best RPGs of the decade.


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