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I had an very bad feeling as I see her smile on the breach. I hope for her own life she won't betray the inquisition to gain more power.


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Come on get real. It is fictional, computer game character. Nexus forums and mods community is full of racists then. Ok.


Well date Cassandra the way she is. Since it's a fictional game that has nothing to do with your real life preferences.

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I had an very bad feeling as I see her smile on the breach. I hope for her own life she won't betray the inquisition to gain more power.

I think/hope if we become her best friend she'll remain loyal.



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It isn't your preferences that's making you out to be racist, but the fact that you want to turn Cassandra's race into another race.

just curious, what race do people want to change Cassandra to?

 

 

As for vivi, I love her, sad she isn't romancable, but she already earned her spot for my first quizzy.



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Well date Cassandra the way she is. Since it's a fictional game that has nothing to do with your real life preferences.

 

It has. Even thought I have nothing, nothing, nothing against LGBT people, I don't do this kind of romances in games. 

If there is going to be some kind of mod to romance Sera as male character I am going to use it.

Go on, now you can call me homophobic. It is getting closer and closer to this ridiculosity.


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lol

 

Try reading this thread from the last page to the first and it's a serious mind****.


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You can be green, purple,neon limon skinned, I don't care. We can talk, we can drink, we can work together, the color of your skin won't change how I'm going to treat you. When it comes to romantic/sexual preferences .. already talked about it.

 

I am not going to "study" this wall of text you linked. Sorry. You can point me in the right direction or make TLDR for me, describing how me being attracted to specific kind of women, makes me racist.

 

Go ahead, I am waiting.

 

look, at the very least you're superficial. only wanting to romance people with certain feature's ? i can get having a preference for something but in the end personality is the only thing that matters in a relationship.



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If people don't want to do gay romances and want to use mods to change it let them.  I can't romance any men shorter then me.  (Zevran/HumanMage/Cousland) I just can't.  Who cares what people preferences are?  If you're into gay romances awesome, if you're not awesome.  If you really want to reskin characters to different races because of some tick you have: rock on.  It's no skin off my back. (<--Hahah. I made a funny. B)


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look, at the very least you're superficial. only wanting to romance people with certain feature's ? i can get having a preference for something but in the end personality is the only thing that matters in a relationship.

 

There are various kinds of relationships. I would be ok to have friendly relationship with broodmother if she had great personality. But romantic one, no. Not going to happen. No matter what.


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The moment I heard her call the Inquisitor "darling" I fell in love.



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If people don't want to do gay romances and want to use mods to change it let them.  I can't romance any men shorter then me.  (Zevran/HumanMage/Cousland) I just can't.  Who cares what people preferences are?  If you're into gay romances awesome, if you're not awesome.  If you really want to reskin characters to different races because of some tick you have: rock on.  It's no skin off my back. (<--Hahah. I made a funny. B)

 

I have to agree with this.  Preferences are what they are.  It's not racist to prefer redheads over blondes or beards over clean shaven.  I didn't care for the "pale skinned Isabela mods" more for lore reasons, but if that's what people wanted to do, I didn't take offense from it.  It's their game, they were free to use them.  No one was pushing their agenda on me.

If someone wanted to mod a LI to a hirsute troglodyte because hirsute troglodytes rock their world, more power to them.  Who were they hurting?


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look, at the very least you're superficial. only wanting to romance people with certain feature's ? i can get having a preference for something but in the end personality is the only thing that matters in a relationship.

 

For you, so you'd have us believe.

 

I'd wager you have your physical preferences as well, like any human being.



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Personaly i havent made my mind up. i havent played second 1 of the game. sure im not sure about her aethsteticaly but thats just looks. there have been tones of games where i didnt likr the look of someone who rocked. 

but the same could be said for Iron Bull and his MC Hammer paracute pants. 

Heck prople hated Garus remember that?



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And I never noticed "white" people to actually have white skin. Maybe albino people.

as a kid I insisted we white people are beige

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.........This thread , i wonder why it isn't closed already.


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#241
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look, at the very least you're superficial. only wanting to romance people with certain feature's ? i can get having a preference for something but in the end personality is the only thing that matters in a relationship.

 

If that were true then there would be no such thing as gender preference.



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Da hell happened to this thread?!?!?!?!


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just curious, what race do people want to change Cassandra to?

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Good question. I don't even really understand what race Cass actually *is*. She looks Sicilian or Greek, which is just European. And Pentaghast is incredibly Latin crossed with Germanic.

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After reading more about her, and watching her introduction trailer.... I actually find her kind of hot. But not a LI, so moving on...  -_-



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What's wrong with nikki minaj.... *cough* viviene?



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Eh from what I've seen i don't really like her personality. She just seems very cocky and arrogant. And her "sass" isn't the funny kind like Varric's, it seems more like shes a Diva. Ill hold out until the main game, but if she acts how I think she will, Im gonna do everything in my power to kill/kick her out of the inquisition. Besides, she wears horns. Its gonna make me feel like she is trying to be a Qunari, and there only room for my inquisitor and Iron Bull in this inquisition.



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What's wrong with nikki minaj.... *cough* viviene?

What? They don't seem to be anything like each other. Nor do they look similar.  

 

Also, I like Niki Minaj.

 

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For you, so you'd have us believe.

 

I'd wager you have your physical preferences as well, like any human being.

 

ofcourse i do, like i said;''i can get having a preference''. but i'm not gonna let it stop me if i find someone whom fits with who i am as a person. and to me it sounds like some people do, which sucks for them. whom knows what they might miss out on?
 

 

If that were true then there would be no such thing as gender preference.

 

actually there would. male/female hormones have different effects on people and their personality. for example: getting testosterone shots can make people aggressive, abrasive and outright annoying.

 


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What? They don't seem to be anything like each other. Nor do they look similar.  

 

Also, I like Niki Minaj.

 

ducks and runs 

lol Is cool bro. ;) Gave me a nice lil chuckle there. Thanks for that. Added some much needed levity to a racism debate that has escalated very quickly.

 

I really find it unfortunate that some individuals are pointing out racism where there is none. Especially makes it difficult when they bring in other examples from elsewhere that have nothing to do with this thread just to prove a point. That being said, that particular comment equating Vivienne to Nicki Minaj sadly was very racist. I kinda like seeing someone actually defend Niki even if I can't stand her personally. Not easy to stand by an unpopular opinion. Kudos. ^_^

 

I know it's off-topic, but let me just say a little something in regards to the race issue that has sprung up. The comments I've seen over-simplify the issues of racism people have raised here. I don't think it's fair to assume racism when people use the term "sassy" to describe Vivienne. It sure ain't accurate, but different people may attach different meanings to the word. While it may indeed spring forth from the "sassy black woman" stereotype, you don't know that it does. It could just be the result of poor vocabulary. People all have preferences. It's racist when your particular preference has been colored by racism but isn't when your preferences haven't been. Racism depends not just on one's actions but on their context as well. Before you cry "racist", try and determine first where people are coming from. It could just be a misunderstanding. As per the accused, It's always a good idea to take a step back and ponder, "Why do I feel this way?" If racism is to end, we must foremost be able and willing to acknowledge it in ourselves and address our own personal demons. In the meantime, it's not always possible to determine if the preferences of individuals in this thread and elsewhere have been colored in such a way. Please, try not to jump to conclusions. It's okay to point it out if something offends you, but there is no need to be accusatory. Please be polite, clarify and don't just sit there and try to insist that people are making excuses. For how can you really know for certain that is the case? :huh:

 

As per people's thoughts on Vivienne, I've seen some  people here try to state that many of us are forming our opinion of her prematurely. The argument is that there isn't enough information to go on for people to hate her. That is not true. Many fans get very heavily invested in the series. They have very strong feelings about certain factions, events, and individuals that we have previously encountered. For these people, Vivienne's alliances may very well be reason enough to loathe her. After all, she is pro Circle and many detest the Circle.


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#250
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It's just something about the way she walks around, her facial gestures and everything.

She's one of those characters you hope you can Sparta kick off the hold.... and then revive using necromancy just to do it again.

Anyone else feel the same way ._.?

 

Yes, there is something about her that rubs me the wrong way. I really don't like her. Maybe when I meet her in game I will change my mind, but, taking her views on mage freedom into account, I highly doubt it.