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#26
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Uh, if they don't share the same approval system, then how exactly does romancing Cullen or Josephine work? :huh: I thought they usually tied approval into that?


They said it's different. I don't know how.  

Considering you can keep playing after the end of the main storyline, and that the war table is such a large part of gameplay - and advisor dependant - I think it's safe to say that killing or removing any of the advisors at any stage is impossible.


Good point.

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I'm not exactly a Cullen fan, but what did he do that was so wrong exactly? And why would The Inquisitor care? (Please don't let this be the epilogue slide that has already been dismissed as a rumour)

Origins wanted to kill all mages.

Unforgivable.

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Scout Harding can be recruited as your new spymaster.
Sister Petrice or Anders can be recruited as your new diplomat. 
Teyrn Loghain can be recruited as your new military commander.

There :P

 

You have no idea how much I want Loghain as military commander. No idea.


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Origins wanted to kill all mages.

Unforgivable.

'Wanted' being the key-word here. He didn't actually kill them.



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From what I know, advisors can't be killed. 

 

Also if a player chooses, only one companion can remain by the time the end of the game happens



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Origins wanted to kill all mages.
Unforgivable.

You don't have to kill them, so he didn't do anything.
Do you think that a person, after Being tortured for days and weeks, would be completely reasonable after a few hours?
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You don't have to kill them, so he didn't do anything.
Do you think that a person, after Being tortured for days and weeks, would be completely reasonable after a few hours?

 

He didn't do anything to stop Meredith killing mages till he had a sudden and convenient change of heart at the last moment.

 

I don't like him but I'm not a person that kills people just because I don't like them. I'll just try to ignore him as much as possible.


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I think a better question is, can we jail companions or advisors who try to leave? This is a military organization, dang it. You can't just up and leave when you want or because your feeling got hurt. That's desertion. There are proper channels you gotta go through to get out. I would like it if you could put allies who try to leave on trial or something like that.


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He didn't do anything to stop Meredith killing mages till he had a sudden and convenient change of heart at the last moment.
 
I don't like him but I'm not a person that kills people just because I don't like them. I'll just try to ignore him as much as possible.

I didn't say he didn't make mistakes or has flaws. I was responding about DAO, since this was mentioned as The reason to not Forgive him.
But no, he didn't switch just in The Last minute. He shown some doubts during Act 3, and in the pro-templar route it is shown he think The annulment isn't necessary.
Which, again, doesn't mean he didn't have flaws. He let The events of The past clouding his judgment. But he did have doubts about Meredith before.

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it seems to me only the companions can either betray (leave) you or be killed by you? The advisors are here to stay because they got the war table thingy.

 

I hope not because i am quite sure i want to either lock Cullen up or kill him because he is a templar in one of my playthroughs because i just hate templars and the way the persecute against the mages. though in another world, i probably romance him for his golden locks.

 

but i really hope i can kill Vivivenne if she is really just a self-serving b**** who only cares about being the First Enchanter of a repressing system that is the circle.

 

which advisor and companion would you want them to leave asap?

 

If we can kill Cullen then we should have the option to kill the other two.  It's only fair  :P

 

I like that people hate Vivienne, she is going to be a polarizing character.  I like her, she has spunk



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Why do people hate Vivienne?



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Scout Harding can be recruited as your new spymaster.
Sister Petrice or Anders can be recruited as your new diplomat. 
Teyrn Loghain can be recruited as your new military commander.

There :P

 

Anders as a diplomat! lol. 

 

Inquisitor:  What should I wear to this Orlesian ball?

 

Anders:  I say we just blow up the whole ball and kill the Empress

 

Inquisitor:  I thought you talk to people, you're my diplomat!

 

Anders: enough of talk! time for action!  and by action, I mean bombs!
 


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Why do people hate Vivienne?

 

pro-mage folks on BSN hate her.  She is pro-circle and makes no apologies for it.  She has a strong type A personality. 


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He didn't do anything to stop Meredith killing mages till he had a sudden and convenient change of heart at the last moment.

 

I don't like him but I'm not a person that kills people just because I don't like them. I'll just try to ignore him as much as possible.

 

Actually he does but it's mostly just verbally trying to convince Meredith to stop annulment. He didn't get very far with that until being shut down by Meredith.

 

To answer OP no you can't kill or kick out your advisors at least in early to mid game. They are crucial part of Inquisition and you will have their advises as options to do your missions. Also Cullen is ex-templar at time of Inquisition not a templar anymore :)



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I doubt it, since it would break the War Table.



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ohhh look another "i dont like you can i kill you, waaaaah waaaah wahhh wheres ma dummy" thread


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I think a better question is, can we jail companions or advisors who try to leave? This is a military organization, dang it. You can't just up and leave when you want or because your feeling got hurt. That's desertion. There are proper channels you gotta go through to get out. I would like it if you could put allies who try to leave on trial or something like that.

I would be ok with that. 



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Why do people hate Vivienne?

I like her. She will be in my party along with Sera and Cassandra



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Why do people hate Vivienne?

 

There is couple of reasons since different people dislike her for different reasons:

  1. Her being Pro-Circle and not Pro-Mage (freedom).
  2. Her being ambitious woman with hidden agenda.
  3. Her being sassy and fashionable, so personality clash I'd say.

I'm not very into her personality and I'm suspicious of her hidden agenda but her being Pro-Circle myself so that's major plus to me personally ^^



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You have no idea how much I want Loghain as military commander. No idea.

 

To be left alone and backstabbed when you need him the most??? :P



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I didn't say he didn't make mistakes or has flaws. I was responding about DAO, since this was mentioned as The reason to not Forgive him.
But no, he didn't switch just in The Last minute. He shown some doubts during Act 3, and in the pro-templar route it is shown he think The annulment isn't necessary.
Which, again, doesn't mean he didn't have flaws. He let The events of The past clouding his judgment. But he did have doubts about Meredith before.

 

 

 

Well he didn't do a very good job, did he? If he had acted on those doubts earlier it might have changed a lot of things but he was content to follow his orders and kill mages until Hawke was being threatened.

 

 



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I like her. She will be in my party along with Sera and Cassandra

I don't personally have any feelings towards her, from what I've seen she seems like a character that will annoy me a bit, but I'm playing a mage firt pt anyway, so I'm rollin' Sera/Varric and whatever warrior that wants to join.



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Well he didn't do a very good job, did he? If he had acted on those doubts earlier it might have changed a lot of things but he was content to follow his orders and kill mages until Hawke was being threatened.

 

Actually he was helping to spare some mages who surrendered when Meredith wanted to execute them. But he could have done more ^^



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Why do people hate Vivienne?


Because she thinks mages need oversight for their own protection and the protection of others. The mages must be free crowd is angry about that.

On a personal level, a lot of people think she is stuck up and superior.

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He didn't do anything to stop Meredith killing mages till he had a sudden and convenient change of heart at the last moment.

He didn't have a change of heart. He just didn't want to kill Hawke, just "arrest him", for whatever reason (especially stupid for Hawke siding with Templars). 

He didn't protest against Annulment at all. And after how they intoduced him in Origins - he shouldn't anyway.