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can the advisors leave or be killed?


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#76
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Well, he managed to resist him. That is impressive.
It's already stated that The reason for his recruitment is What he did after DAI.
Loghain can be dead.

 

Surely there are other army commanders with actual military experience...unless they all conveniently died in the blast or something. 



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yea i figured that too, but it was just odd that he was so nice and accepting toward my mage hawke, and to be honest ive been finding it odd how people never take into account the weeks of torture he endured when bitching about his dislike for mages, as though they themselves would be all nicey nicey or "understanding" if they were tortured for weeks.

 

No I almost certainly would be far to mentally damaged to be trusted with any authority ever again, which Cullen also most likely is, but if he has been given that authority he has full responsibility for what he does with it.



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Surely there are other army commanders with actual military experience...unless they all conveniently died in the blast or something.

Of course they are. Not everyone might be available though. Cassandra might've preferred someone from a Chantry background who didn't leave it after Asunder.
Also, I think he's The leader of The army before The Breach.

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Why Cullen's past deeds (imaginary or otherwise) should matter for Inquisitor, anyway? Inquisitor probably never saw or heard of this guy in his life. All that should matter for him - if Cullen is giving him a good advice or not and how useful he is for the Inquisition.


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I'm sure the inquisitor can ask about his background...and I think the events in Kirkwall are public knowledge. If given the option, my inquisitor would fire him the moment she learns that he was Meredith's right hand for 10 years.
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People have mentioned Loghain as someone who should have been your military commander that wouldn't make a lot of sense for me given he died in all but one playthrough.

 

I doubt your advisors can leave or be killed simply because you need them for the war table to function.

 

I do find it strange that people hate Cullen for being anti-mage when given his history it would make no sense for him to be otherwise, he was tortured for weeks (perhaps months) by demon possessed mages, after that he was posted to the worst circle tower in Thedas and had a lunatic as a commanding officer......yet it appears he's worked through his problems and was highly thought of by the Divine (who was pro-mage), he has stayed loyal and abandoned the Templar order.



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I'm sure the inquisitor can ask about his background...and I think the events in Kirkwall are public knowledge. 

The events in Kirkwall are such a public knowledge that several years later Cassandra still has no idea what happened?


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Other than Cullen, Varric, and Leliana we don't know any of the companions well enough for me to decide if I'll like them or not. I almost never kill companions (Anders being the exception) and would rather kick them out of my party or not recruit them if I don't like them. They're too realistic and sympathetic. In games like Fable I have no problem doing evil playthroughs and killing villagers. In a BW game the characters are like real people.


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I think Cassandra wants the details ;)

Leliana says that the whole world is watching Kirkwall and the pro-mage epilogue states that thanks to Hawke, many mages survived the events to spread word to the other Circles...so I think the news of Meredith's atrocities are out there.

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The events in Kirkwall are such a public knowledge that several years later Cassandra still has no idea what happened?

It was never stated that she had 'no idea', she wanted the truth.



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I think Cassandra wants the details ;)

Leliana says that the whole world is watching Kirkwall and the pro-mage epilogue states that thanks to Hawke, many mages survived the events to spread word to the other Circles...so I think the news of Meredith's atrocities are out there.

I think you overestimate how the news spread in medieval setting. 

The only possibility I see for Inquisitor to have any knowledge of Kirkwall events besides "It was a big Boom and the whole hell broke loose" is for him/her to be a human mage.

But I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it is handled in the game.



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It was never stated that she had 'no idea', she wanted the truth.

Yes, she had an idea, she blamed Hawke for the whole thing.



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pro-mage folks on BSN hate her.  She is pro-circle and makes no apologies for it.  She has a strong type A personality. 

 

Mages don't know that they should be pro-Circle...that's what is wrong with mages.


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Surely there are other army commanders with actual military experience...unless they all conveniently died in the blast or something. 

Aveline



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Advisers are mandatory, but interaction is mostly optional.  It's true that followers can't be killed, but also that some may not survive the outcome of some choices.  Now, all I have to do is find out which choices they are ( :devil: mwahahahaha.)


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Mages don't know that they should be pro-Circle...that's what is wrong with mages.

 

 

yes they should get back in the cage and be glad of their imprisonment be glad they cannot have families, be glad they live only at the sufferance of brutal zealots, be glad they gate raped and mind wiped, be glad to be beaten



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yes they should get back in the cage and be glad of their imprisonment be glad they cannot have families, be glad they live only at the sufferance of brutal zealots, be glad they gate raped and mind wiped, be glad to be beaten

 

I think you are phrasing wrong.

 

Yes, they should get back to their Duty, be glad of their Duty, be glad they have Duty, be glad they live to perform their Duty, and if they do not do their Duty, then they will be punished. 

 

That's what I think Sten would say and the Qun.



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I think you are phrasing wrong.

 

Yes, they should get back to their Duty, be glad of their Duty, be glad they have Duty, be glad they live to perform their Duty, and if they do not do their Duty, then they will be punished. 

 

That's what I think Sten would say and the Qun.

 

 

and the Qun is tyranny, as is the circle and the entire Chantry system, malevolent tyranny at that.  People want to be imprisoned to do this mythical duty, inflicted at birth and annihilating self determination that is their own insanity talking, and a golden cage is the best place for them, all other are free to fight it as hard and as long as they can with any method it takes, to obliterate this rabid insane cult, the only chantry characters we have seen have been either incompetent, malevolent, or insane.



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Mages don't know that they should be pro-Circle...that's what is wrong with mages.

 

Many mages are actually pro-Circle. Wynne, Bethany and Vivienne from companions :) I agree with those other mages though, giving bad name to all mages and trying to destroy system that's only thing protecting them.



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and the Qun is tyranny, as is the circle and the entire Chantry system, malevolent tyranny at that.  People want to be imprisoned to do this mythical duty, inflicted at birth and annihilating self determination that is their own insanity talking, and a golden cage is the best place for them, all other are free to fight it as hard and as long as they can with any method it takes, to obliterate this rabid insane cult, the only chantry characters we have seen have been either incompetent, malevolent, or insane.

Calm down, Anders.  Before this thread explodes.


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I think you are phrasing wrong.
 
Yes, they should get back to their Duty, be glad of their Duty, be glad they have Duty, be glad they live to perform their Duty, and if they do not do their Duty, then they will be punished. 
 
That's what I think Sten would say and the Qun.

Nope, The Qun is harsher.

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Somehow I knew this was about Cullen even without coming into this thread. If Cullen wasn't a pretty guy, I doubt there would be this much animosity or love for this guy. 

 

He's not even pretty in this game. He looks old, tired and worn-down. Also he's kind of a d bag. Never understood the love for him. lol  :wacko:



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I don't know about being killed, but if companions can leave because they disapprove, the advisers should be able to as well. If the Inquisitor is Anders-level pro-Mage, why would Cullen or even Leliana stick around? Well, I'm sure they won't let us play an Anders-like Inquisitor, but theoretically, you know?



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I don't know about being killed, but if companions can leave because they disapprove, the advisers should be able to as well. If the Inquisitor is Anders-level pro-Mage, why would Cullen or even Leliana stick around? Well, I'm sure they won't let us play an Anders-like Inquisitor, but theoretically, you know?

 

maybe they are too 'professional' and know the Inquisitor is the only one who can seal the breach.  If they lose faith in even the most insane rabid 'mages rule' Inquisitor, the world likely ends.



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maybe they are too 'professional' and know the Inquisitor is the only one who can seal the breach.  If they lose faith in even the most insane rabid 'mages rule' Inquisitor, the world likely ends.

better that than the chantry system continue.