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[Fardreamer]

If you think it's too long to remember the decisions you've made, then it's almost impossible for most users to have the old saves from DA:O and DA:2... I know I don't.  I've upgraded my system twice since I played them.  You're in the minority, my friend.  The Keep was a god-send for me.

[Kantr]

The keep is much better than save game importing.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

seriously if you are to lazy to make your choices manually or look up the choices and consequences on the DA wiki then you don't need to be using the Keep at all, just use the default world state if its TOO much trouble for you.  

[Kantr]

Or the randomiser

[unclee]

I think the TC misunderstood what the Keep was before it even went into closed beta. The Keep was NEVER going to be a save import system, so to compare it to one is mind boggling. I don't think they ever said you'd be able to import your save files (I could be wrong though).

 

Honestly, though, this system is necessary because of the flaws in how the save import system works. The ME series may have been relatively free of problems (likely due to fewer variables being carried over), but Dragon Age has been plagued with them. You asked why we can't simply import a save and have it auto populate our decisions and the answer is because the save files have, historically, given Bioware hell. Importing into Awakening and DA2, especially, had a whole host of problems. Why try to build a system around potentially broken save files when you can achieve the same result in a different way?

[Tenz83]

You people who complain in paragraphs, if you put as much effort into your world state in the tapestry I'm sure you would have a bunch of saved files ready to import into the inquisition.

[Salazah]

Forgive me if all of this has been said before, but I felt I should offer my impressions. The Keep (and honestly Inquisition itself at this point) is starting to seem like far more disappointing than I'd hoped.

 

A bit of context first though: I could most likely be called a "casual" Dragon Age player. I've played Origins and 2 only once and, though I have really looked into and enjoyed the lore, I'm not nearly as passionate or immersed in the series as I was (and still am) in Mass Effect or even games like the Elder Scrolls series. I was hoping that, after more playthroughs and the release of DA:I, that I could become as immersed and excited about the series as a lot of people I know who enjoy it. After all, it was only after two or three playthroughs of both ME1 and 2 that I really came to appreciate Mass Effect as I do now.

 

So, from the position of someone looking to get excited about the series, the Keep feels like a monumental misstep to me. After the Mass Effect trilogy and DA:O and 2's simple, one-file save import system, this confusing and, to be blunt, utterly pointless site has killed most if not all of my excitement for DA:I.

 

That may seem rather harsh, but really what is the benefit of jumping through all the (many) hoops to "sync" my games with my Origin profile? Both the Warden and Hawke's appearances are not saved and every single decision you've made in both games has to be input manually (if you can even remember them). So if the characters are not imported, and the choices and quests are not imported, and the major events that are supposed influence the game's world are not imported, why on earth even bother?

 

Now I understand the Keep is supposed to be some kind of social hub or something, and the world building mechanic will be useful for brand new players who will only have DA:I, but in my mind there is no excuse whatsoever for not including a simple save import system. A simple utility to read the checked plot flags (e.g. every other modern Bioware game) in a save file is all that's really needed here.

 

I'm trying to be reasonable here but seriously, why can you not just pick a save file from the Keep and have it autofill at least some major plot points? Is there any real reason? I'm entirely serious, if there is some technical issue I'm not seeing here I'd like to hear it. As it stands now though, the sole reason I can even think of for pushing this kind of thing is to try to force more people into registering and using their Origin accounts, which certainly does not sit right with me at all. 

 

Now all of this wouldn't matter as much to me were it not a Bioware game. The joy of series like DA or Mass Effect though is feeling you have some influence over the game's world and plot, as if your story is unique to you. Without the characters I've created and played as, and the major choices I've made, why even bother? This is all eerily reminiscent of all the "Mass Effect 3 is the best place to start playing the series" nonsense that was floating around pre-ME3, and it's making me seriously doubt I'll be getting DA:I at all.

 

TL;DR: The lack of a save import feature or really any point to the Keep is making me not want to risk buying Inquisition.

 

 

I'm very much the same like OP. I played DA:O and DA 2 at the start of this year and well I never known bout the Keep until a couple months ago, and when I found out that it could import your saves, I was pretty excited. Currently it doesn't do this and sure I can pick all those choices I made but for the life of me I really can't remember the small things and even some of the main choices. Now I too am disappointing that Keep doesn't import my saves. Sure I've gone ahead and used the Keep to make the "save" that I believe is the same as when I played them early this year but it just doesn't feel right because I replied the game so many times, everything seems like the right choice.

[DinX64]

I'm very much the same like OP. I played DA:O and DA 2 at the start of this year and well I never known bout the Keep until a couple months ago, and when I found out that it could import your saves, I was pretty excited. Currently it doesn't do this and sure I can pick all those choices I made but for the life of me I really can't remember the small things and even some of the main choices. Now I too am disappointing that Keep doesn't import my saves. Sure I've gone ahead and used the Keep to make the "save" that I believe is the same as when I played them early this year but it just doesn't feel right because I replied the game so many times, everything seems like the right choice.

Good thing we can have multiple world states then right?

[rprm1987]

I'm very much the same like OP. I played DA:O and DA 2 at the start of this year and well I never known bout the Keep until a couple months ago, and when I found out that it could import your saves, I was pretty excited. Currently it doesn't do this and sure I can pick all those choices I made but for the life of me I really can't remember the small things and even some of the main choices. Now I too am disappointing that Keep doesn't import my saves. Sure I've gone ahead and used the Keep to make the "save" that I believe is the same as when I played them early this year but it just doesn't feel right because I replied the game so many times, everything seems like the right choice.

 

Why dont you just use the dragon age wiki to refresh your memory. It will hardly take your time.

 

believe me the keep is a much better option than incorrect save import.

[TheMadHarridan]

I love the Keep. There were so many bugs with importing saved games, particularly into DA2, that the Keep is a godsend. I have played both games too many times to remember every decision I made in every playthrough, but that's the beauty of multiple world states.

[Kantr]

Or use this Guide as recommended by Our Lord and Saviour Justin

 

http://www.pcgamer.c...age-keep-guide/

[Revankist]

It's been said. Save file imports will not work for Xbox Ones, and PS4s. So I'm glad BioWare planned ahead and started work on this.

Complain all you like and say its a bad idea, go ahead. I appreciate the work for them doing this so I also have a chance to perfectly tailor the world to my choices, so I can feel free to change things easily without having to replay DA:O, DA:A, or DA 2.

So as long as things work out well from the Keep to DA:I, this should prove to be one of the best ideas BioWarte has ever done.

Now if I had a choice, I would love to see the previous Dragon Age games re-mastered for the new consoles, so I could replay them again on my Xbox One, but I assume that is a much more costly, and time consuming project than the Keep, so kudos to BioWare and keep it going.

[tyralily]

Also the only people who said that the saves imported from the game to the keep while the Keep was still in closed beta were not well informed about what the keep actually did. I was a closed-beta tester and I was never informed that the keep imported my choices from previous games. I knew I'd have to make the choices myself.

[Undead Han]

I'd like that feature as well, however, it really will have zero impact on DAI.  You're custom name will never be acknowledged in-game and even the portrait is irrelevant as you will not see your Warden and you're Hawke will have to be recreated with the DAI custom character generator anyway.

 

 

Has it been stated somewhere that the Warden's name will never appear in game?

[Senjougahara Hitagi]

Has it been stated somewhere that the Warden's name will never appear in game?

 

No it hasn't, as far as I know. But since it's all voice acted, you can be sure it won't appear during any conversations. It could appear in some codex entry, but that's just a speculation. And the Orlesian Warden would complicate things even more.