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[Xilizhra]

Ha, you go on believing that. Believe your borrowed and ragtag army can actually do anything on its own. Obviously you don't know Ramza Beoulve. 

Oh, I won't be on my own. I'll have the help of both the mage revolution and Celene, at the very least.

[Augustei]

The Chantry disavowed it. I feel like I can take the Inquisition in whatever direction I want so long as it stops the Breach, thanks.

Spoiler

Well it seems one of your objectives in Inquisition will be to remedy that from what we've seen from the various videos where you seek out the mother in redcliffe and that whole arc being a main mission.
I don't care a fig for the chantry myself but I would like their support for the sake of more support- from the plebs still in doubt
Nothing like a bit of "Divine legitimacy" for the cause

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

So anyway, about that Gaspard fellow....

 

Sadly he apparently got crippled during that epic duel. I would have liked to see him in action. But maybe he has had some time to brush up on other skills of statesmanship while unable to fight.

[Br3admax]

Oh, I won't be on my own. I'll have the help of both the mage revolution and Celene, at the very least.

So you plan on dying. Okay, Weird goal to shoot for, but okay. 

[Xilizhra]

So you plan on dying. Okay, Weird goal to shoot for, but okay. 

What, you think it'll be impossible to complete the game on that route?

[Augustei]

From the flashbacks in TME I get the impression Gaspard is in his 50s. So I'd be interested in knowing if he has any kids and what they are like.
They are the soon to be heirs to the Empire after all.

[Lumix19]

So you plan on dying. Okay, Weird goal to shoot for, but okay.

Why would he/she die?

So anyway, about that Gaspard fellow....
 
Sadly he apparently got crippled during that epic duel. I would have liked to see him in action. But maybe he has had some time to brush up on other skills of statesmanship while unable to fight.

I hope so, he wasn't the best politician in TME. Too much of a soldier.

[Master Warder Z_]

What, you think it'll be impossible to complete the game on that route?

It should be.

[WazzuMan]

Am I the only one who can't decide who is more awesome? XD I like them both and am really conflicted that should the moment arise; who to put on the throne

I think that was the point of The Masked Empire. In the beginning where it was more about politics and progression for the empire you saw Celene at her best, her strong points and you saw the ugly side of Gaspard. She was the hero, he was the scheming villain. When the civil war began and Gaspard had Celene on the run you saw him in a role that better suited him and you got a sense of his honour. Whereas Celene was at her worst, appearing manipulative and aggressive. Fact is they are both brilliant and terrifying leaders in different ways.

I'm leaning more toward Celene as she is more progressive and compromising whereas Gaspard is more of a warmonger. The people above argue that in a time like the Dragon Age, that's the kind of ruler you need but I think the opposite. After all, most of the problems we'll be dealing with in Orleas will be a result of the civil war that Gaspard intentionally started. I could still go either way but right now Celene seems like the lesser of two evils.

[Master Warder Z_]

Seriously people need to get over him wanting to invade Fereldan.

It ain't going to happen now anyway.

[Xilizhra]

It should be.

Ein weg, ein verbündeter, ein spiel?

 

Spoiler

One path, one ally, one game.

[Augustei]

Why would he/she die?


I hope so, he wasn't the best politician in TME. Too much of a soldier.

Plenty of soldiers have gone on to be good monarchs, Emperor Trajan being a prime example

[Br3admax]

What, you think it'll be impossible to complete the game on that route?

I'm sure whenever the nobles tire of you Celene well let the mage sympathetic Dalish First live. She's done nothing to indicate otherwise.

[Xilizhra]

I'm sure whenever the nobles tire of you Celene well let the mage sympathetic Dalish First live. She's done nothing to indicate otherwise.

Well, that's what I have Leliana for. Not to mention that she'd probably find it advantageous to keep around, with the whole "Herald of Andraste" thing.

[Br3admax]

Ein weg, ein verbündeter, ein spiel?

Spoiler

One path, one ally, one game.

More like one Google.

[Lumix19]

Plenty of soldiers have gone on to be good monarchs, Emperor Trajan being a prime example

True, though Rome didn't have all the annoying rules of the Game that Orlais has.

It should be.

What's your objection? That he/she is supporting mages or Celene?

[WazzuMan]

Seriously people need to get over him wanting to invade Fereldan.

It's one of the larger selling points for his regime, therefore an issue that will probably be revisited again. If so it would be premature to just discard the argument.

[Lumix19]

It's one of the larger selling points for his regime, therefore an issue that will probably be revisited again. If so it would be premature to just discard the argument.

Indeed. Orlais need Fereldan to fend off Nevarran aggression so they'll either take it by force or gain it's support through diplomacy.

[Master Warder Z_]

It's one of the larger selling points for his regime, therefore an issue that will probably be revisited again. If so it would be premature to just discard the argument.

I'd say it would be more sensible to merely retake that city from Nevarra.

Fereldan can collapse under it's own weight.

It will be easier to take once it's weak government falls.

[WazzuMan]

I'd say it would be more sensible to merely retake that city from Nevarra.
Fereldan can collapse under it's own weight.
It will be easier to take once it's weak government falls.

Right because after this nonsense with the breach and civil war they will be in top condition to expand their empire.

[Lumix19]

I'd say it would be more sensible to merely retake that city from Nevarra.
Fereldan can collapse under it's own weight.
It will be easier to take once it's weak government falls.

I think you overestimate Orlais' power. Celene notes in TME that Orlais doesn't have the power to drive off Nevarran Aggression and that's why they need to ally with Fereldan, to gain their full support and strength. Otherwise they'll have even more territory to defend which they aren't doing a great job of.

[Master Warder Z_]

Right because after this nonsense with the breach and civil war they will be in top condition to expand their empire.

In all likelihood no.

However they will have the advantage over Nevarra.

They picked a poor target to annex.

One single city just across the border.

They can expell Nrvarra and then see what's what.

[Master Warder Z_]

I think you overestimate Orlais' power. Celene notes in TME that Orlais doesn't have the power to drive off Nevarran aggression

That's because she was content to allow their gains to go unopposed.

Orlais doesn't need to defeat Nevarra merely secure itself.

[DarthLaxian]

He is one on 2 my favorite characters. He shows what Chevaliers really are insted of those comical relief characters we've seen before.

 

Yeah - killers of innocent people (peasants and elfs) who just tried to protect themselves (or avenge abuse they have suffered, because they have no way to get vengeance otherwise...there's no laws to protect them...) and abusers or people that can't fight and have no rights (peasants and elfs again)

 

I hate this guy - I might not exactly like Celene, but she is the empress and his status as a chevalier means that he ows her obedience (so he is an oath-breaker, a traitor of the highest order...he is as bad as those green ghosts from lord of the rings who were bound by a magic oath and could only rest in peace, after fullfilling their obligation and being released by the heir of the King they swore to serve)

 

Yeah, I do have my problems with Celene - like how she is using (and abusing) her elven lover who's parents she killed (or had killed...don't remember exactly), her managment of the elven-uprising (would have had those nobles killed instead of the elfs...I mean she has an elite force of bards (The Shadows of the Empire!) who surely are capable of that (their codex says so in DAO)), her dealing with the conflict of mages and templars (she could protect the mages for example and force the templars in line - her army is bigger than the templar forces and a templar is only really dangerous for mages...like Alistair says: Against regular enemies he is just a guy in a metal suit!) etc.

 

So yeah, she might not be all that competent (she can't even reign her nobles in) - still, he is much worse (he might be competent, but I don't trust a man who commits treason and breaks his oath)

 

greetings LAX

[Lumix19]

That's because she was content to allow their gains to go unopposed.
Orlais doesn't need to defeat Nevarra merely secure itself.

Where does it say she let the gains go unopposed? And I would say Orlais is secure to a certain degree, they don't need to take a Nevarran city to feel safe.