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....except he doesn't always invade Ferelden...  If you do the diplomatic mission, the Orlesian army moves to the Tevinter border to fortify, it doesn't come across as an invasion of Tevinter or Nevarra

Then what exactly would he be doing that would raise economic prosperity that Briala is not doing?



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Then what exactly would he be doing that would raise economic prosperity that Briala is not doing?

I imagine he'd be continuing the policies Celene implemented, he's not out to rock the boat

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I imagine he'd be continuing the policies Celene implemented, he's not out to rock the boat

So, there's no benefit to him being there that wouldn't be granted by Celene.



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I imagine he'd be continuing the policies Celene implemented, he's not out to rock the boat


Some of them. He would also probably implement policies that would weaken the influence of the Game (not get rid of it, that would be highly unlikely). He would also probably implement policies that promote military service and the production of goods necessary to wage war.
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No comment.

 

And absolutely no one was surprised.

 

At least Xil can't complain about the Rightful Emperor leaving that pathetic elf to the dogs.



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And absolutely no one was surprised.

 

At least Xil can't complain about the Rightful Emperor leaving that pathetic elf to the dogs.

Er, why would I? Not only do I not have a rightful emperor, but the empress who achieved her position through skill as opposed to mere primogeniture had the attempted usurper killed. There's relatively little for me to complain about there. While there might have been some merit to the idea of recruiting Gaspard to join the Inquisition, he'd probably try to usurp Cullen, and Cullen's younger and has more service left in him anyway.



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Er, why would I? Not only do I not have a rightful emperor, but the empress who achieved her position through skill as opposed to mere primogeniture had the attempted usurper killed. There's relatively little for me to complain about there. While there might have been some merit to the idea of recruiting Gaspard to join the Inquisition, he'd probably try to usurp Cullen, and Cullen's younger and has more service left in him anyway.

 

Nah. Pretty sure you're just misremembering at this point.

 

Celene died. Gaspard executed her elf toy and made Orlais stronger.

 

At least Celene and Briala can continue their hilariously unhealthy relationship wherever annoying failures end up when they die.



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So, there's no benefit to him being there that wouldn't be granted by Celene.

. In terms of economic policy, maybe not, but with his stated goals of a stronger nation, cutting down the Game, and continuing the social and economic policies of Celene, I'd say he stacks up rather well
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. In terms of economic policy, maybe not, but with his stated goals of a stronger nation, cutting down the Game, and continuing the social and economic policies of Celene, I'd say he stacks up rather well

 

But he isn't a lesbian in a relationship with an Elf.

 

He could be Leliana tier nausea inducing and still lose out to Celene because of that.



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Nah. Pretty sure you're just misremembering at this point.
 
Celene died. Gaspard executed her elf toy and made Orlais stronger.
 
At least Celene and Briala can continue their hilariously unhealthy relationship wherever annoying failures end up when they die.

. They can put them in Jester's gear and entertain the Doukas

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. They can put them in Jester's gear and entertain the Doukas

 

Be nice.

 

The Doukas have higher standards than that...



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those who kill  gaspard   know nothing about emperium or kingdoms   ,  killing gaspard is  killing Orlisiyan emprorium
i will explique : i m from the moroccan kingdom , and i think people from the UK and other kingdom  will understind what i m saying .
The  Heritage of the kingdome family  go from  the Male Big son to the Male big son   and go one ..
if the king have a daughter than a son the son becaume king even if his sister is bigger .  cause the blood   and last name go with the males  like we all know . 
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother his brother bicaume king after his death .
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother that have a son . when the brother became king and die, his son becaume king .
if the king only have daughters   and don"t have brothers , it"s his uncle that become king ( the brother of his father ) 
if  the king die  whith no male  left in the family . the big daughter of the king becaume queen ( because she have the last name and the blood of the royal family ) like what happening in englend now with queen elizabeth 
BUT AFTER THE DEATH OG THE QUEEN ? THE ROYALITY ENDS  end the kingdom turn to repuplique 
So in the case  of Orlais  they have a queen , but their is  a male  from the royal family and that"s why he clam the trone cause Celen took the thron even if their is a male from the royal family , after her death even if noone kill her the thron is going to him .
so killing him end the Orlisian blood line , end with the death of Celen after years ,  the Orlisian empirium fall .
making a empruim fall for  a love story betwen an elf and a empress ? seriously ? you are the inquisitor act as a leader and not a horny teenager 



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those who kill  gaspard   know nothing about emperium or kingdoms   ,  killing gaspard is  killing Orlisiyan emprorium
i will explique : i m from the moroccan kingdom , and i think people from the UK and other kingdom  will understind what i m saying .
The  Heritage of the kingdome family  go from  the Male Big son to the Male big son   and go one ..
if the king have a daughter than a son the son becaume king even if his sister is bigger .  cause the blood   and last name go with the males  like we all know . 
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother his brother bicaume king after his death .
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother that have a son . when the brother became king and die, his son becaume king .
if the king only have daughters   and don"t have brothers , it"s his uncle that become king ( the brother of his father ) 
if  the king die  whith no male  left in the family . the big daughter of the king becaume queen ( because she have the last name and the blood of the royal family ) like what happening in englend now with queen elizabeth 
BUT AFTER THE DEATH OG THE QUEEN ? THE ROYALITY ENDS  end the kingdom turn to repuplique 
So in the case  of Orlais  they have a queen , but their is  a male  from the royal family and that"s why he clam the trone cause Celen took the thron even if their is a male from the royal family , after her death even if noone kill her the thron is going to him .
so killing him end the Orlisian blood line , end with the death of Celen after years ,  the Orlisian empirium fall .
making a empruim fall for  a love story betwen an elf and a empress ? seriously ? you are the inquisitor act as a leader and not a horny teenager 

 

The fate of the Orlesian Empire does not rest upon the survival of a 70 year old dude with no living heirs. The throne will pass on to a new dynasty if there are no other Valmonts to inherit it. Worst-case scenario is another civil war as part of a succession crisis.


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The fate of the Orlesian Empire does not rest upon the survival of a 70 year old dude with no living heirs. The throne will pass on to a new dynasty if there are no other Valmonts to inherit it. Worst-case scenario is another civil war as part of a succession crisis.

a man can have kids even at the age of 100 , not like womens that don"t have this posiblity after the age of 45 
so no civil war with gaspard in the thron , a strong man in the head of a emprium 
that what empruim is all about 



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a man can have kids even at the age of 100 , not like womens that don"t have this posiblity after the age of 45 
so no civil war with gaspard in the thron , a strong man in the head of a emprium 
that what empruim is all about 

 

Yes, but age has an affect on fertility nonetheless, not even taking things like ED into account. Also of note is the fact that he has no children despite having been married in the past.

 

So yeah, no civil war with Gaspard on the throne... just like no civil war with Celene on the throne. The civil war becomes a concern when they leave said throne without an heir.



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Its still more likely that Gaspard can get an heir than Celene

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Its still more likely that Gaspard can get an heir than Celene

 

Out of context, we could safely assume.

 

In-context... bordering on 70, previous marriage, no kids.



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Out of context, we could safely assume.

 

In-context... bordering on 70, previous marriage, no kids.

lol i now  a many freind of my grandpa and they are above 70 and still have plenty of kids



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I think its safe to assume that neither Celene nor Gaspard are going to have any kids, and that the same bloke will come to power whenever one of them dies. Same thing will happen in Ferelden. 



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lol i now  a many freind of my grandpa and they are above 70 and still have plenty of kids

 

That's all well and good, but Gaspard has had no children, ever. It's a breach of responsibility he and Celene share, given their station.


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There is such a thing as infertility, it affects both male and females, equally. One would expect it to exist in Thedas just as it does in the real world.

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There is such a thing as infertility, it affects both male and females, equally. One would expect it to exist in Thedas just as it does in the real world.

still, without an explicit confirmation of infertility, I think Gaspard is more likely to have an heir.



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still, without an explicit confirmation of infertility, I think Gaspard is more likely to have an heir.


He would likely be dead before they saw thirty but yeah I agree.

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still, without an explicit confirmation of infertility, I think Gaspard is more likely to have an heir.

Given other factors, not fertility related, yes I would agree.

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those who kill  gaspard   know nothing about emperium or kingdoms   ,  killing gaspard is  killing Orlisiyan emprorium
i will explique : i m from the moroccan kingdom , and i think people from the UK and other kingdom  will understind what i m saying .
The  Heritage of the kingdome family  go from  the Male Big son to the Male big son   and go one ..
if the king have a daughter than a son the son becaume king even if his sister is bigger .  cause the blood   and last name go with the males  like we all know . 
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother his brother bicaume king after his death .
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother that have a son . when the brother became king and die, his son becaume king .
if the king only have daughters   and don"t have brothers , it"s his uncle that become king ( the brother of his father ) 
if  the king die  whith no male  left in the family . the big daughter of the king becaume queen ( because she have the last name and the blood of the royal family ) like what happening in englend now with queen elizabeth 
BUT AFTER THE DEATH OG THE QUEEN ? THE ROYALITY ENDS  end the kingdom turn to repuplique 
So in the case  of Orlais  they have a queen , but their is  a male  from the royal family and that"s why he clam the trone cause Celen took the thron even if their is a male from the royal family , after her death even if noone kill her the thron is going to him .
so killing him end the Orlisian blood line , end with the death of Celen after years ,  the Orlisian empirium fall .
making a empruim fall for  a love story betwen an elf and a empress ? seriously ? you are the inquisitor act as a leader and not a horny teenager 

 

That's not always the case. There are monarchies where the oldest child inherit the crown regardless of gender. My country has a crown princess despite the fact that she has a younger brother.


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