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You are right to some extent,but in theory if you kill their leader,the Old God,will end the Blight per hour ( disregarding their pick in the expansion ) then somehow they are designed to kill the Archdemon,after all the Blight only happens on their behalf.
Morrigan's Ritual devised a way to kill the Archdemon without killing the Old God. Win-win if you ask me.
Morrigan's Ritual devised a way to kill the Archdemon without killing the Old God. Win-win if you ask me.
Yep.
Also my Warden, especially the mage Warden, decided to romance Morrigan, do the Dark Ritual with her and go through the Eluvian with her.
For the simple reason that she, Morrigan, is not a very good mother material which means the child is going to need his dad.
I don't really care about Morrigan being super-irresponsible about secrets (who in Origins wasn't), but:
For the simple reason that she, Morrigan, is not a very good mother material which means the child is going to need his dad.
This is precisely why my Wardens (who never romanced her) would never do the Dark Ritual. Among many, many other terrible things, this woman thinks it's a fine idea to sacrifice a few dozen random slaves in a blood magic ritual. Regardless of how much she's touched by your Warden doing favors for her, (very, I'm sure) I'm not helping her become a mother, especially of something potentially powerful of which she will be the sole caretaker.
I am a little disappointed that doing the Dark Ritual will be revealed to be anything other than a very bad idea, but not surprised. NBD, I guess. Even if my Morrigan in Inquisition hasn't been "softened" by motherhood, I hope she's spent a little time this past decade thinking about why my Warden rejected her offer.
(I really like Morrigan as a character! She is v. fun! And evil! I don't think I can be convinced that someone who is upset if you don't help a demon possess a child isn't evil, but you are welcome to try, I guess)
They've streamlined it by tying it to the Goldanna and Marjolaine choices. I know meeting Goldanna or killing Marjolaine didn't automatically result in steeling the characters, but that's how they chose to address it in the Keep.
I'd also be disappointed if this is the case. I did both of these things consistently and rarely hardened either character.
In my case I agreed to do the ritual for mere survival,one of the reasons for me being anxious by the Inquisition is what will be the response of this game for my act. I do not really trust the Morrigan,despite having had a romance with her, and be gone with it.
They've streamlined it by tying it to the Goldanna and Marjolaine choices. I know meeting Goldanna or killing Marjolaine didn't automatically result in steeling the characters, but that's how they chose to address it in the Keep.
I'd also be disappointed if this is the case. I did both of these things consistently and rarely hardened either character.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that they combined it with other choices, eg: remaining Alistair's mistress if your romanced him or whether he agreed to marry Anora if Loghain survived, or if Leliana didn't attack you for corrupting the Urn. It's been 10-15 years since the events that would harden the two, I'm pretty sure being told to stand up for your self or that enjoying being a bard isn't a bad thing would have too much effect on the two, aside from those choices
The more I see Morrigan, the more I like her...especially like this...
Yep.
Also my Warden, especially the mage Warden, decided to romance Morrigan, do the Dark Ritual with her and go through the Eluvian with her.
For the simple reason that she, Morrigan, is not a very good mother material which means the child is going to need his dad.
I don't know about her not being good mother material. If you romance her or have a high approval rating as a friend, she clearly changes. The way that she told the story about Flemeth smashing her mirror also seemed to stay with her. She was even softer when you encounter her in Witch Hunt.
Yep.
Also my Warden, especially the mage Warden, decided to romance Morrigan, do the Dark Ritual with her and go through the Eluvian with her.
For the simple reason that she, Morrigan, is not a very good mother material which means the child is going to need his dad.
I think any dad that lets their baby become possessed by the soul of an old god (which is evil) would make a bad parent too.
Except that it's just the soul, not the mind of the old god?
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I think any dad that lets their baby become possessed by the soul of an old god (which is evil) would make a bad parent too.
Making a lot of assumptions.
1) The baby isn't possessed. It's an Old God reincarnate.
2) Old Gods are no more evil than the Chantry or the Maker. People like to use religion to justify warfare. Surprise surprise.
A religion will emerge? who knows...
Avernus wouldn't be able to make it to Denerim and Riordan was already there. There is no actual betrayal because Morrigan never swore allegiance to begin with. The fact that people expect everyone to be upfront with everything, without even asking I might add, is surprising. If you want to blame anyone, blame Alistair for not knowing after half a year of being in the Wardens.
mmmm i dont think so Even if you become very close to her she will always lie to you and remain silent about the warden's sacrifice until the end, for that reason she feel sad during some romance or friendship dialogue option.If i had known about the sacrifice 1 month before the final battle , i would take with me Avernus or even Loghain (which most during their first game haven't considered because they really did not know about the sacrifice) at my camp a super easy win-win-win-win.This is a betrayal morrigan lies the whole time and she plays with the warden's life for a year.this is not just a betrayal is a massive one.Bah this child will become the New Damian a nightmare.Destroy the life of a child for a serpent mmmmmmmmmm there is a lot of grey...... wait just evil...Us forever go Loghain for your sake is just a moment.
That argument is reek of pro-templar, pro-chantry propaganda. It's no question that most players who chose the US or letting Loghain/Alistair to feed the Archdemon is a pro-templar. And accusing Morrigan of betrayal is stupid, she never sworn an oath of loyalty unlike Alistair or Zevran. She gave you a way out to prevent anyone who will kill the Archdemon to die even if you kick her out to the party.
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I had an OGB with Morrigan, however how is it possible to have a human baby with her? I don't know how that's possible.
If you slept with her in camp she becomes pregnant regardless of the Dark Ritual. If you do the Dark Ritual the zygote becomes the reincarnation of Urthemiel. If the Dark Ritual was declined she has a normal child.
I had an OGB with Morrigan, however how is it possible to have a human baby with her? I don't know how that's possible.
That argument is reek of pro-templar, pro-chantry propaganda. It's no question that most players who chose the US or letting Loghain/Alistair to feed the Archdemon is a pro-templar. And accusing Morrigan of betrayal is stupid, she never sworn an oath of loyalty unlike Alistair or Zevran. She gave you a way out to prevent anyone who will kill the Archdemon to die even if you kick her out to the party.
ah pro templar......... carry on
It's not a betrayal.
You're just an idiot for not asking how Gray Wardens defeat Archdemons.
Betrayal is Grey Warden Alistair leaving Fereldan because you won't kill Loghain.
??? feed the archedemon? With Loghain? only an Angel might decide to save his life during the Landsmeet, and he later offer his life for gratitude, why it must always be a speech about pro -Templar or the Chantry i'm tired of pathetic arguments as these, you are more fanatic then Meredith. If you become friend or even lover then is a betrayal because she cut your alternative to survive.
I also believe that her plan is too stupid, the archdemon could go flying away from Denerim, without the griffins who would follow him? Then, what Morrigan would do with her baby?it is not credible that an archdemon could be defeated during the 1st battle in wich he show himself , without the griffins to engage him in flying combat, as i said, what the hell morrigan would do with her baby if the Archdemon would escaped from the battle?
You accuse me of being fanatic? You need to you look on your arguments before accusing me.
It's not a betrayal.
You're just an idiot for not asking how Gray Wardens defeat Archdemons.
Betrayal is Grey Warden Alistair leaving Fereldan because you won't kill Loghain.
I do not belive so a grey warden recruit may think that the advantage of the grey warden is simply being able to resist the taint and sensed the darkspawn, the secret of the final blow is a secret, beside the only wardens of ferelden are alistair,avernus (who dont care about the blight) and riordan who you meet later in the game and the hero.
well the lie still remains, your argument have no-sense and logic how can someone argue that ALISTAIR betray the warden, is madness!!!Alistair from the first moment on the camp reveal that he want to kill loghain, bah now Alistair is the traitor for you ohhh ridiculous......Aniway this is off-topic we will see the morrigan of DAI .
well the lie still remains this cannot be denied, if a friend lie to me on an important matter to me is a betrayal, your argument have no-sense and logic how can someone argue that ALISTAIR betray the warden, is madness!!!Alistair from the first moment on the camp reveal that he want to kill loghain, bah now Alistair is the traitor for you ohhh ridiculous......Aniway this is off-topic we will see the morrigan of DAI because the one of DAO is a walking contradiction.......
What about calling Morrigan a traitor? Its very ridiculous and an obvious excuse of hate.
What about calling Morrigan a traitor? Its very ridiculous and an obvious excuse of hate.
i just think its an ass move to say you love someone, then run off on them for no reason
When she abandoned you if you refuse the ritual she act like an oportunist who cares only for herself.
Not really. She tells the Warden multiple times that what she wants doesn't matter. She is doing her mysterious duty. Just like Alistair as a Grey Warden who is supposed to protect the world from the Darkspawn, Morrigan has to do a job too, most likely given to her by Flemeth but we don't know. Unlike Alistair, who as a Grey Warden only purpose is to stop the Blight, Morrigan never took an oath to stand by you or defend Ferelden. But she may have taken an oath to get an old god baby however (not literary). Either way, Alistair leaving the Warden's party isn't betrayal, but him leaving his duty as a Grey Warden technically is. Like Morrigan does, Alistair shouldn't let his emotions intervene with his job.
Not really. She tells the Warden multiple times that what she wants doesn't matter. She is doing her mysterious duty. Just like Alistair as a Grey Warden who is supposed to protect the world from the Darkspawn, Morrigan has to do a job too, most likely given to her by Flemeth but we don't know. Unlike Alistair, who as a Grey Warden only purpose is to stop the Blight, Morrigan never took an oath to stand by you or defend Ferelden. But she may have taken an oath to get an old god baby however (not literary). Either way, Alistair leaving the Warden's party isn't betrayal, but him leaving his duty as a Grey Warden technically is. Like Morrigan does, Alistair shouldn't let his emotions intervene with his job.
i don't care for her job i need to save the world.
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