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[Revan Reborn]

EA Access isn't about screening demos of up and coming games, it's about supplying an archive of games that people are willing to pay a subscription to play, £30 a year to play a selection of EA games. They have added a few perks to the membership, 10% off of new EA games and Early Access to their up and coming games.

 

It would surprise some people on here but DA:I Early Access is only bonus content to a rather good game hub. It is not the main purpose of EA Access.

For a lot of people buying EA Access, it is. Most of the games in the "vault" are games people don't care for. You better believe the major incentive for EA Access will be DAI, Battlefield: Hardline, and Star Wars Battlefront. Upcoming games will drive their service.

[Cerulean_Shaman]

Where did you find that statement? Outside of WoW, LoL, and DOTA 2 (essentially MMOs or MOBAs), console gaming is the largest and most profitable market. Especially for AAA games, you aren't competitive or making the money you could if you aren't on Xbox or Playstation.

 

He's still right though, which is a point you glazed over. Those three games alone probably outnumber console gamers, especially since a huge amount of console gamers are casual gamers as well, and you could name dozens more PC titles with huge playerbases. Add to the fact that nearly every console game releases on PC unless an exclusive is forced (very rare these days), the majority of gamers are on PC. Hell, it's enough of a temptation to draw out previously exclusive markets... Halo is coming to the PC. Almost all of the Final Fantasy series is coming to PC, and Final Fantasy 15 has a strong chance of doing it on its release. Valkyria Chronicles, a beloved ps3 exclusive, PC. Dark Souls 2, finally to PC and done right. Metal Gear Sold Ground Zero and Phantom Pain all coming to PC. And triple A titles? The Witcher 3 and Dragon Age Inquisition, currently two of the hottest and more talked about games, PC.

 

To top it off gamers are literally the major driving force behind the video card market, a niche luxury market like specialty cars and parts, and the fact that it's healthy shows interest. I think even adding up the recent exclusives on consoles the PC market would only be a little behind, but then adding all its own exclusive titles (the mobas and mmorpgs we can play in ADDITION to the same console games you can, games like Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen) PC just blows ahead. Plus we can still use controllers on the games we choose! I have my xbox and ps3/4 controller all synced wirelessly with no delay or issues thinks to a little gizmo I bought.

 

Please do not misunderstand me. I really hate this whole PC super race bullshit. I own every single console except an xboxone and I sold my 360 (and I'm including consoles all the way back to atari and stuff like the virtual boy). The only reason I don't own the Box is because it's Microsoft - rare is it that one of their games does not release on PC. Sony has all the RPG exclusives I love to play and it's the only reason I have their consoles. I will KILL for Persona 5. Still, PC is the ultimate gaming experience. I could never touch Skyrim on a console, unmodded, and I wish you could see my friend's mind explode when he made the jump.

 

Some people may be satisfied with consoles. That's fine, there is literally nothing wrong with them and if you're happy with it then that really is all that matters. Still, speaking objectively, speaking logically, PC really, truly, is the ultimate gaming platform. No, it's not perfect. Some console exclusives will make you whimper, and the price isn't for everyone, but there it is.

[wolfhowwl]

I guess the Xbox EA Access thingy will either (1) set a new precedent where we see every publisher offering the same service or (2) it will crash and burn.
 
Sorry, I'm with Sony on this, it is not good value for money. $60 per year for a 10% discount means I would need to buy 10 EA games at full price per year to justify the cost. The 6 hour "demo" is inconsequential and would only appeal to a tiny minority who have no self control and a "shut up and take my money" attitude.
 
And seriously, does everybody think MS paid for the exclusivity? Sony were offered the same deal but turned it down.

You do know that it has a game library too, right?

[Ryzaki]

To everyone complaining about Microsoft paying EA a tonne of money for Access. Shut up please.

Sony turned it down when it was offered to them.

And PC users already have amazing deals on most games. Steam for example.

 

Edit: It's £20 a YEAR. So expensive, oh nooo...

 

All of new EA games aren't on steam so I fail to see how that's a good argument.

 

that said yeah Sony turned it down.

[OdanUrr]

He's still right though, which is a point you glazed over. Those three games alone probably outnumber console gamers, especially since a huge amount of console gamers are casual gamers as well, and you could name dozens more PC titles with huge playerbases. Add to the fact that nearly every console game releases on PC unless an exclusive is forced (very rare these day), the majority of gamers are on PC. Hell, it's enough of a temptation to draw out previously exclusive markets... Halo is coming to the PC.

I stopped reading here. Source please?

[Nimlowyn]

I cannot believe that grown ass adults bicker about the superiority of consoles vs. PC. Honestly. An otherwise interesting question ruined by its own OP. 

[Cerulean_Shaman]

I stopped reading here. Source please?

 

I didn't mean to lead you on, I meant it in the same vein as all the other games. My point was exclusives are gradually making their way to PC as companies are realizing the huge market there and the fact that newer gen consoles are becoming more and more like their PC counterparts baseline. A few Halo games have previously come to PC after being an xbox exclusive, and in fact one of the system's defining titles, so my point was to show that even strongly console affiliated games (Metal Gear, Halo, Final Fantasy) are coming and have come to PC.

[dch2404]

It's actually $30 per year.

 

I'm confused. $4.99 per month it says here. But what do I care, I don't have an XBox.

[frankf43]

I'm confused. $4.99 per month it says here. But what do I care, I don't have an XBox.

The yearly subscription is a lot more cost effective  than the monthly subscription. $30 a year or $4.99 a month.

[dch2404]

You do know that it has a game library too, right?

 

You'd have to want at least 3 of those games to make it worthwhile though. BF4 was on sale for ~£12 on Halloween.

[dch2404]

The yearly subscription is a lot more cost effective  than the monthly subscription. $30 a year or $4.99 a month.

 

 Ahh okay, should've thought of that.

[Tevinter Soldier]

So its not actually about Dragon Age Inquisition or Origins, and Bioware doesent have a say in this? This early access is probably 100% related to wanting to sell more consoles? 

Imo Bioware should take a stand, and ask EA if they can add early access to PC aswell. For the sake of ... solidarity, equality and fairness. Is Bioware really powerless in influencing EA in this matter? O.o

 

considering EA access is platform exclusive and microsoft business model is uncoupled meaning the xbox platform is run separately to microsoft the operating system it would still be a breach unless EA negotiated with xbox to release it early on Origin as well.

 

and considering the entire point is to drive gamers (yes even PC gamers) towards the Xbone it would undermine their entire reason for having EA access tied to that platform, it's tied to Xbox not Microsoft. the parent company maybe the same but business model wise PC is still a competitor when it comes to games.

[Fast Jimmy]

Microsoft is throwing money at everything to promote their XBone with (timed) exclusivity deals. I'm not mad at BioWare/EA accepting the money (or rather Microsoft jumping the chance for pay for it) for as long as it doesn't cut into my comfort zone for PC gaming. By all means, more money for them indirectly means more content for me and all that just for one week XBox timed demo/early release. I'm happy. BioWare's happy. EA's very happy.

OP's not happy.

[RicochetHawke]

I thought Dragon Age was always prefered for the PC by the fans. 

I remember playing DA:O on a ps3 and was pulling my hair out over how awful it was. Didn't make it through the game's origin story without rage quitting. 

While I do think it is unfair that Xbox users get to play early, I can wait five more days to play the game in full. A time limit will only take away from the experience. 

[frankf43]

OP's not happy.

Don't tell him I'll be playing next Thursday then might upset him even more.

[Medhia_Nox]

@Nimlowyn:  How dare you madame... How... DARE... you. 

 

This is no laughing matter... I am clearly superior, just look at my computer! 

 

OP - consider THIS one time... alms to the poor.  Who's the rich noblemen tossing alms to the console peasants as you ascend the steps of superiority?  We are.... this time.

 

But in the future - this will NOT abide... something must be done. 

[tybert7]

Yawn. As a PC gamer who doesn't own a console these types of threads grate me. QQ tantrums of the conspiracy against PCs is laughable.

 

The console market is more profitable.

The console market is not a monolith.

Not all Consoles get early access.

You are not as important in the world as you mother told you.

Console exclusives are designed to get people to buy consoles not to pushish people.

One group getting early access is FAIR, because you were only ever promised access on release day.

Suck it up people.

 

 

Is the console market more profitable?  maybe all consoles, but I'd imagine the pc market is still larger than any single console, and ought to yield higher profit per sale as there is no need for middlemen to take a cut of the profits since the sales are done through origin directly.  Selling a console game gets the retailers and microsoft/sony paid fees.

[Fidite Nemini]

OP's not happy.

 

Can't please everyone.

[Meltemph]

Access not coming to the PC is, to me, very strange since I could see a lot of potential money from it, but I dunno. I doubt piracy is an issues, since piracy exists regardless and piracy isnt forgone growth anyways, it's just a defense mechanism for under-preforming games(regardless that I personally think piracy is theft). I wish they would explain why access doesnt come to Origin though. And this has nothing to do with DA either, I just mean in general, I think the deal is a good one, personally.

[Fast Jimmy]

Can't please everyone.

When OP's not happy, ain't nobody happy.

[Fidite Nemini]

When OP's not happy, ain't nobody happy.

 

*Le gasp*

 

Forgive my presumptions, egoistical opinion. I was too self-obsessed to think about OP when I wrote my comment. It shames me to see what I've become. I shall henceforth join a monastry and pray for forgiveness at the chime of bells and brooms.

[Amaror]

Where did you find that statement? Outside of WoW, LoL, and DOTA 2 (essentially MMOs or MOBAs), console gaming is the largest and most profitable market. Especially for AAA games, you aren't competitive or making the money you could if you aren't on Xbox or Playstation.

 

Yes, the console market alltogether is a lot larger than the Pc market. But the Pc has the largets market out of all peripherals. It doesn't have a larger market than xbos, ps4 and wii-u combined, but is larger than any one of them.

[Kevlar Eater]

To everyone complaining about Microsoft paying EA a tonne of money for Access. Shut up please.

Sony turned it down when it was offered to them.

And PC users already have amazing deals on most games. Steam for example.

 

Edit: It's £20 a YEAR. So expensive, oh nooo...

Is this game or anything post-DA2 available on Steam, including that game? As far as I recall, no.

[frankf43]

*Le gasp*

 

Forgive my presumptions, egoistical opinion. I was too self-obsessed to think about OP when I wrote my comment. It shames me to see what I've become. I shall henceforth join a monastry and pray for forgiveness at the chime of bells and brooms.

And recite the Chant of Life 500 times.