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My two cents here

 

1. The "Not Citadel" looks a bit like human architecture to me.

 

2. Overall i'm predicating a post-ME3 game that takes place away from the mass relay with very few returning places.


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My two cents here

 

1. The "Not Citadel" looks a bit like human architecture to me.

 

2. Overall i'm predicating a post-ME3 game that takes place away from the mass relay with very few returning places.

Makes sense. 

It does look like human architecture, but by the time of the trilogy humanity couldn't not build such a place, not even close. So I would hope a very post ME3 game if that's the case. 



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Sequel.

 

That space station has some sort of energy flowing through the middle of it and with the ship approaching it I get the impression it's for travelling through. Looking at the other pics together it all seems to have a darker feel to it than say ME1 exploration.

 

The 'new' citadel thing for lack of a better description reminds me of a place we've visited already but is that stars in the black area at the top or ships?



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Having ME4 take place in a different galaxy would be very hard to square with ME3's ending. If there's a galaxy doing fine without reapers then the entire RGB choice is nothing else than playing along with a little sociopath ... there is no longer any moral dimension to the ending. It's just Shepard losing and playing a role in a sick little game.

 

A sequel would be hard to square too, but the destroy ending leaves some room. If Shepard doesn't die in the suicide pact like the starchild intended he has regained some agency and victory. While not entirely satisfactory, it's better than nothing.



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If they told us now a few key things about the plot/charactes - they would eventually spoil us the fun.

 

If I don't know whether the story takes place before the ME3 ending or not I won't buy the game, I doubt they can make it to release without spoiling that.


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I always figured going beyond this galaxy would be off the table, because it would be a senseless waste of the universe and a kind of defeat from ME3's ending.

 

I'd love to get a not-Citadel hub that isn't Omega (though I want Omega too). It'd be nice to see galactic society really establish its own infrastructure that moves beyond what the reapers left behind, and that the relays and even the Citadel itself become obsolete.


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Looks at least several hundred years after ME3 to me.

 

No matter your ending choice a new 'Citadel' was built.

 

Relays to some old but mostly new places built.

 

I like what we've seen, but a little worried it won't feel like the same game?



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More speculation: the following two images are related to the same species and will constitute the main adversary in ME4.
 
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They show the same style: very angular with many flat planes. I'm guessing the species will also seem rather mechanical or angular in appearance.

 

they certainly give off a cold, dark, intimidating feel. fits with them being baddies. 



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Enemies comparable to the Reapers, I'd even say.

Menacing, repugnant, awe inspiring, superior.

 

I still see a high chance of arche theory to come true.



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More speculation: the following two images are related to the same species and will constitute the main adversary in ME4.
 
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Anyone can notice what appears to be a robot or Stone Giant, or Metal giant, or something like that in the lower corners of the picture?


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What I would do is make the races more advance and not create a big baddy like the reapers of the blight. Let the great conflict of the galaxy be between the races... like a World War.


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I don't remember the exact quote but I remember it being mentioned that the game starts in the known galaxy/space and in the Shepard timeline pre ME3. I would like this to mean two things. The first is that it will bridge over to after ME3. The second is that it will be in a region that is beyond the effect of the rgb choice at the end of ME3. One way to get around the distance between galaxies is to approach the speed of light without using the time dilation canceling effect of maintaining Mass Effect fields. We already know that objects maintain sub light velocities after leaving Mass Effect fields from firearms and ship weapons. The mass Effect fields prevent time Dilation when on by raising the effective speed of light in acceleration equations. The ship could then use mass effect and electromagnetic fields to create a ram scoop/jet that at near light velocities would provide the required energy to maintain a sustained or pulse fusion reaction. To the observer on a planet the trip would take hundreds to perhaps a few thousand years while only taking a decade. Combine that with hibernation or suspended hibernation( something the technology from the Lazarus project should be able to handle easily) and travel becomes much less daunting. It can also be used as a sort of time machine by staying close to the galaxy in an artificial orbit. Then you just activate the larger Mass Effect fields to establish undilated time without slowing down and take a look around to see if you want to stay.



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Makes sense.

It does look like human architecture, but by the time of the trilogy humanity couldn't not build such a place, not even close. So I would hope a very post ME3 game if that's the case.


Humanity could build Stanford torus type space stations during the trilogy (and before it). Both Arcturus and Gagarin Stations were reportedly of this type, described as possessing (at least in part) a large ring structure which spun to produce artificial gravity. Arcturus was described as being similar to the Presidium in the environment was meant to evoke a feeling of being outside, although the Presidium was much more expansive and undeniably more advanced.

But I agree, the image does appear more advanced. And like I said in my first post - it isn't a torus, the architecture is wrong. It sort of looks like a combination of the Presidium torus and the atrium from Grissom Academy.
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“Every day is a revelation and every day I get to play in a new corner of the universe,” Schlerf says. “To be able to look three steps ahead to, ‘Where does this take us and how does it add to the way we look at the Mass Effect trilogy?’ You couldn’t ask for a better playground.”

I easily may be wrong here,but the feeling i get from reading this is that it will be a prequel or midquel after all.

How else completely different story that happens,say, after conclusion to ME trilogy can add to the way we look at that concluded trilogy? Plus,those "3 steps ahead" sound pretty suspicious to paranoidal me :).



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Anyone can notice what appears to be a robot or Stone Giant, or Metal giant, or something like that in the lower corners of the picture?

 

In the bottom left of the tomb/vault screenshot. (why is it called a tomb?) there's something that looks like a robot scorpion or something. 



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Check this out, like I said before the "Citadel-type" image is not a simple torus like the Presidium, or a simple Bernal Sphere type of station. The architecture is unique and unusual. This may have been where they drew their inspiration for it, just like they drew the inspiration for the Presidium from the Stanford torus designs:

http://www.nss.org/s...pana/index.html
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Check this out, like I said before the "Citadel-type" image is not a simple torus like the Presidium, or a simple Bernal Sphere type of station. The architecture is unique and unusual. This may have been where they drew their inspiration for it, just like they drew the inspiration for the Presidium from the Stanford torus designs:

http://www.nss.org/s...pana/index.html

More like Elysium IMO

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#43
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Elysium is just a basic Stanford torus though - exactly like the Presidium, if the walls of the Presidium were clear instead of buildings, and if the roof was uncovered instead of a screen display of sky. The living area is still on the outer region of the ring.

But look at the design from the image - it is clearly different. It is not a torus like the Presidium or Elysium. There is a central pillar type area, and then an obvious living area which slants upward almost to a perpendicular level. From there a display of sky takes over, up until a central area which seems like a glass view out into space.

So the physics of it isn't right for a torus like Elysium or the Presidium. It has to be some variation, but its unique either way. Possibly a variation of a Bernal sphere or cylinder design, rather than a torus like Elysium. That fits way better with what the image looks like.

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And even then, it still doesn't make sense. The only way to really create a living area like that in a space station is to provide rotation about the central axis, as well as acceleration along the axis itself (it: It would have to move under it's own propulsion), so that the net vector is at an angle to the central axis.

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I think this pretty much proves that the next Mass Effect will be in the future, probably significantly into the future considering how much time it would have taken to recover and gather the resources build something "Citadel-like".

 

I feel I should mention though, a lot of people have been saying that the going to another galaxy idea is stupid because there's plenty of unknown space in this one.  The argument for going to another galaxy has never been based on the idea of visiting new space, it's about getting a fresh start without touching the ME3 ending controvery or imposing canons or anything.



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Edit: Moved here as it fits better this speculation topic
 
Well, here's my guess:
If this is the Citadel then I'm hoping this will be the Gaeron Botanical Gardens located in the Tayseri Wards. It's one of the locations for shuttle departures listed on the Citadel in ME2.

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Humanity could build Stanford torus type space stations during the trilogy (and before it). Both Arcturus and Gagarin Stations were reportedly of this type, described as possessing (at least in part) a large ring structure which spun to produce artificial gravity. Arcturus was described as being similar to the Presidium in the environment was meant to evoke a feeling of being outside, although the Presidium was much more expansive and undeniably more advanced.

But I agree, the image does appear more advanced. And like I said in my first post - it isn't a torus, the architecture is wrong. It sort of looks like a combination of the Presidium torus and the atrium from Grissom Academy.

I see. It's hard to remember all that... but I remembred that Kaidan's saying the Citadel is a whole another scale compared to the humanity built stations. I wouldn't know how it would compare to just the Presidium.

 



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I see. It's hard to remember all that... but I remembred that Kaidan's saying the Citadel is a whole another scale compared to the humanity built stations. I wouldn't know how it would compare to just the Presidium.


Yeah I don't think Arcturus and especially not Gagarin were anywhere near as impressive as the Presidium. But the concept itself is pretty simple - take materials, make ring, set it spinning, add people. More or less.

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Edit: Moved here as it fits better this speculation topic

Well, here's my guess:
If this is the Citadel then I'm hoping this will be the Gaeron Botanical Gardens located in the Tayseri Wards. It's one of the locations for shuttle departures listed on the Citadel in ME2.

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I don't know, if it was a botanical gardens, there would be no need for the pillar structure in the center. It definitely seems more space-stationy to me.

And if I were to guess, I would guess that we wont be revisiting the Citadel (or really anywhere from the prior trilogy), and that the design of this area was literally meant to evoke reminiscent feelings of the Presidium...since we wont go back to it.

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I hope that it's working with Aria, personally.  Scum & pirates.  To help scum, and uhmmm.  Pirates.  To uhhhm, help the Alliance to help her build back up because she sacrificed ?

 

I don't know.

 

To all those people saying that it doesn't look anything like the citadel, when did you ever ever ever ever ever see any other wing of the citadel besides Zakeera ward and the presidium?  Which, I take it were on the same wing (or arm)?  Do you honestly believe that a quick ME1 elevator ride can get you to another arm?

 

There are five arms to the citadel.  They could take us 20-30 years to get through them all.