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[kimgoold]

Does anyone else hate the way elves are depicted in the series, I mean they are supposed to be graceful, etherial beautiful mythic beings not the spindly pidgeon chested things they now look like in games two and three of series.

[The Elder King]

Does anyone else hate the way elves are depicted in the series, I mean they are supposed to be graceful, etherial beautiful mythic beings not the spindly pidgeon chested things they now look like in games two and three of series.

They're not 'supposed' to be anything. The devs can make them look as they want. Just because most of The time elves look like that doesn't mean every game/book/movie has to portray them in that way. Also, elves in DA Aren't 'etherial mysticap beings', or at least they aren't since Arlathan's fall (We don't know how They were back then).

And that's coming from someone who wanted to play a male elf but will switch to another race for The first playthrough becuase he doesn't like much how skinny they are.

[kimgoold]

I agree with you just disappointed with the way they are depicted

[Nonoru]

I don't know what you're talking about OP. All my elves from Origins had funny faces on purpose. 

 

That's the beauty of the CC. You make them look like you want. And with this level of customizations, I'm probably set for new records. 

[theacefes]

Does anyone else hate the way elves are depicted in the series, I mean they are supposed to be graceful, etherial beautiful mythic beings not the spindly pidgeon chested things they now look like in games two and three of series.

 

There is no world canon on elves, as they are not real/don't actually exist. Every setting is free to do what they wish with race creation. Thedas is no exception to this and I for one think it's a breath of fresh air to the generically perfect elves that settings like Middle Earth or Forgotten Realms have done.

 

If your impression was that Bioware attempted to do Tolkien elves and got it wrong three times, then I would recommend doing a bit of research on this setting as you may not like some of the other lore here. 

 

 

I agree with you just disappointed with the way they are depicted

 

But why? You are looking for apples when the setting has oranges. It would be like me being disappointed that the Stormcloaks don't make an appearance in DA:I, or that Jon Irenicus isn't the main villain in Mass Effect. 

[The Elder King]

I agree with you just disappointed with the way they are depicted

  

 
 

 
But why? You are looking for apples when the setting has oranges. It would be like me being disappointed that the Stormcloaks don't make an appearance in DA:I, or that Jon Irenicus isn't the main villain in Mass Effect.

Not The OP, but My disappointment is based on The facts that they're too skinny for me, and there's isn't actually a race with an average body type. Though this is a problem related to humans as well. Considering dwarves and Qunari are very muscolar, they could've made The human Less bulky...or the elf a little more muscolar. Well, for The males. Female are all skinny expect dwarves.

As I said, The devs are free to make them look how they wanted though.

[kimgoold]

I may be wrong but I got the impression that the elves were supposed to be eye candy in the game? The books, etc all go on about how beautiful they are and  how the humans lust after them? it just seems strange they would be described like that then look like they do is all I'm saying. Not that the Devs have to make the elves like every other universe/genre depiction of elves.

[Yuoaman]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, elves are described as having larger eyes and such, which some people in the world of Thedas would find appealing.

[Shadow Fox]

I may be wrong but I got the impression that the elves were supposed to be eye candy in the game? The books, etc all go on about how beautiful they are and  how the humans lust after them? it just seems strange they would be described like that then look like they do is all I'm saying. Not that the Devs have to make the elves like every other universe/genre depiction of elves.

I think both DA and Skyrim Elves are pretty...

*shrugs*

[DarkSeraphym]

Does anyone else hate the way elves are depicted in the series, I mean they are supposed to be graceful, etherial beautiful mythic beings not the spindly pidgeon chested things they now look like in games two and three of series.

They could have used more meat on their bones. Still, I like the direction they went with DA:I. DA2 went too far, but DA:O left them indistinguishable from humans, beyond the ears. I am of the opinion that the DA:O design was lazy.

[Asdrubael Vect]

Does anyone else hate the way elves are depicted in the series, I mean they are supposed to be graceful, etherial beautiful mythic beings not the spindly pidgeon chested things they now look like in games two and three of series.

the only thing what i always hate in elves than they are shorter than humans, anorecsic and have stupid huge ears like in some korean mmo and WoW

 

but mostly i hate in DA is how elves are treated in universe and how they answer back...unbalanced

 

mostly what is connected with sexual relationship of humans and elfs(actually it is 99% always with elven females) what is showed very unbalanced and elven females is kinda always become sex "slave"servant or lover for cheating your wife..they give birth to human kids and you know what happens next

 

i think some can understand if they will remember many things from DAO what was connected with this....it is like devs always show this type of content to be ecsclusive elven(elven females related) related

[Travie]

I like the direction they took with elves being cast down into the dregs of society instead of being the ethereal beings they normally are in other settings, but purely in terms of their appearance I think we can admit they look like weird aliens...

 

If you're going to make a fictional race, why not make them attractive? I'd rather look at something attractive for 100 hours to be perfectly honest. 

[BabyFratelli]

In Dragon Age lore, elves were originally (and in some ways still are) the stereotypical germanic myth version we're all used to. I think it's refreshing and a lot more interesting that, in Thedas, they had such a fall from grace. 

[SurelyForth]

 

If you're going to make a fictional race, why not make them attractive? I'd rather look at something attractive for 100 hours to be perfectly honest. 

 

Because not every single person in media needs to be physically attractive? Had BW ascribed to this when designing the species in Mass Effect, it would have been 75% more boring.

 

Plus, there are people who do find DA elves attractive. I think Fenris, Lia, Jethann, and Merrill were all well-designed. Did they look like humans? No. But they're striking. I think the same thing IRT Solas, who has a very interesting face. Sera is adorable, and some of the custom elves we've seen in streams are also pretty.

 

I like that BW tries to do something different with elves. I'm not 100% comfortable with the depiction of female elves in the lore, and I do think the DAI elves are way too reedy, but overall they have done something different and I think it works. 

[10K]

Personally I'm just upset how the PC looks compared to Sera and Solas. They have normal proportions, the PC looks as if they've missed a few meals. I wish they would have kept the elves design from origins. Atleast the males had mass to them. Now they just look like little boys.

[Gervaise]

Well in the fashion industry skinny is meant to be sexy.   In fact in the Forgotten Realms setting elves were meant to be slighter built and slimmer than humans.    In the Thedas setting we are constantly told that humans find elves attractive, which is presumably why the brothels seems to be so full of elves in DA2.   However, in Masked Empire it would seem that the only two real distinguishing features of elves are the ears and the eyes, which are meant to be larger than human.    Somehow the latter seems to have been missed off the DAI spec since neither Solas nor Sera seem to have particularly large eyes and from what I have seen in the character creator, the default heads do not have particularly large eyes either.  Solas is slightly built for a male and seems slightly shorter than humans but Sera looks pretty much normal to me.  However, at least we are able to adjust the features in the Inquisitor, if not the height, to make them closer to what we perceive to be an elf.

 

If elves were meant to be so very different from humans, then it would not have been possible for the artist in ME to simply dock Shartan's ears in order to make him acceptable to the Divine post Exalted March on the Dales.   The DA2 elves went too far in making them different from humans and their necks were just odd, so DAI is probably closer to what the original developers were thinking of and in keeping with the descriptions in books.

[Scerene]

the male elves look like anorexic 13 year old boys. You can make a beautiful/handsome elf facially, but they are still going to have that awkardly proportioned body. Honestly their rail thin bodies wouldnt be as bad if they werent so bizarrely shaped. The arms and waistline are super thin, and the shoulders very narrow, while the hips, thighs and feet along with the ribcage are of relatively normal proportion. So thin arms, tiny hands, narrow shoulders and thin waist combined with relatively normal sized ribcage, hips, thighs and feet and its just ugh i dont know where to place my eyes, its just all over the place! Certain body parts look like they belong to a starving child while others look like they belong to a relatively normal but skinny adult.

[Eudaemonium]

I honestly think it makes sense for the elves to look considerably alien as compared to humans. Beauty standards are pretty much entirely socially constructed (you can make a quasi-biological argument for traits like 'looks healthy' or 'youthful', but specific arrangements of facial features, build etc. are all social), so elves being considered beautiful in Thedas is probably as simple as that: elves are considered beautiful because they are considered beautiful. It has nothing to do with their object facial features being intrinsically attractive on some deep level, merely that those facial features have become coded as beautiful. If elves just look like slighter-built humans with the exact same variety of facial features and nothing to mark them as distinction outré, the idea that elves are beautiful actually makes less sense (unless beauty is specifically coded to refer to their litheness).

[kimgoold]

Exactly what I meant, they look like the love child of Ichabod Crane (cartoon version) and Akenaten, Sooooo weird

[Churchader]

Why do people still believe male elves exist

[Scerene]

I honestly think it makes sense for the elves to look considerably alien as compared to humans. Beauty standards are pretty much entirely socially constructed (you can make a quasi-biological argument for traits like 'looks healthy' or 'youthful', but specific arrangements of facial features, build etc. are all social), so elves being considered beautiful in Thedas is probably as simple as that: elves are considered beautiful because they are considered beautiful. It has nothing to do with their object facial features being intrinsically attractive on some deep level, merely that those facial features have become coded as beautiful. If elves just look like slighter-built humans with the exact same variety of facial features and nothing to mark them as distinction outré, the idea that elves are beautiful actually makes less sense (unless beauty is specifically coded to refer to their litheness).

bzzzzzzzzt wrong, beauty standards are not entirely socialy constructed and said arguments are hardly quasi-biological, there are a specific arrangments of facial and bodily feautures that are considered more attractive, with science to back it. I dont understand why people *need* to believe this kind of phony and idealistic bs. Your theories are based on feminism, socially "scientific" philosophy and new age nonsense, If anything is *quasi*, they are.

[Chiramu]

If you want LoTR elves OP go read or watch the LoTRs. This is Dragon Age, it is a different story and different world. This is not The Lord of the Rings...

[kipac]

There are typically two types of elves in novels, games, and etc.

Elves are generally either depicted as mythical and superior race, or pointy-ears weirdos that are inferior and used as slaves.

[Osena109]

The Dalish elves are lairs. They were never immortal the used blood magic to prolong there lives. they Lie to  uneducated city elves to tell them  stories and get them to join there clan  they need new breeding stock can't have inbreeding among the elves now.

[Shylocken]

Does anyone else hate the way elves are depicted in the series, I mean they are supposed to be graceful, etherial beautiful mythic beings not the spindly pidgeon chested things they now look like in games two and three of series.

 

No, I think it's refreshing that they are not Tolkien elves.