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[lordsaren101]

Anders is alive and well in my world. Hopefully he and the inquisitor can blow up some chantries together.

[Pierce Miller]

Anders is alive and well in my world. Hopefully he and the inquisitor can blow up some chantries together.

The choice to blow up a chantry has been something I've been waiting for since Lothering *crosses fingers*

[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

What if Anders (Justice) is the Elder One?
A pro-mage demon gone drunk on power, validating Fenris' fears.

This could be real.

Spoiler

I'm done now.

[-TC1989-]

Anders health is not in a good shape. Kind of comes with the whole stabbing him with a knife thing 

[General TSAR]

Don't know about you, but he killed himself in my game.

[jellobell]

Ok, let me explain myself a little then.

There's one canon which is what we have in default keep.

And there's also the "devs canon" which they shared on twitter and other medias. Like, what they had in mind making characters do this and that, what they think is the best fate for a certain character and such.

 

You mean like the book canon? I don't think they've ever said that those outcomes are "best". They've been very careful not to invalidate people's choices. That's why they refer to it as "Bioware Canon" or "Default World State" rather than just "canon". Plus, even in the books they try to leave as many things up in the air as possible. For example, they've never established the gender of Hawke or the Warden in any supplemental material.

[sandalisthemaker]

If you fully rival him and force him to fight with the Templars, he strongly implies that he is going to kill himself afterwards.

[Pierce Miller]

If you fully rival him and force him to fight with the Templars, he strongly implies that he is going to kill himself afterwards.

Wow......You'd think Pro-Templar players would be against that seen as how they're meant to be champions of "morality".

[Master Warder Z_]

For example, they've never established the gender of Hawke or the Warden in any supplemental material.

 

Uh didn't they do that with the default world state though?

 

Hawke is a male mage.

[New Kid]

I expect there will be a war-table event that hints at him being involved with the mages somehow.

[Br3admax]

Wow......You'd think Pro-Templar players would be against that seen as how they're meant to be champions of "morality".

Even if this were true, which it isn't, what do your morals have to do with Thedas'? 

 

For example, they've never established the gender of Hawke or the Warden in any supplemental material.

Female Dalish elf who performed the Ultimate Sacrifice

Male Mage Hawke who sided with the mages. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Wow......You'd think Pro-Templar players would be against that seen as how they're meant to be champions of "morality".

They're meant to be champions of the public good, in theory, though whether they are or not depends on how you see your PC's motivations. As for not wanting Anders to off himself, he's just proven he's a threat to innocent lives by blowing up a large building and raining pieces of it down on the city. Demolitionists never explode buildings. They either knock them down with compensational-looking-machines or explode the support beams so that it folds in on itself. And then there's the fact that he tried to kill Ella for no worse offense than calling him a demon. Anders killing himself makes the world more safe, and that's what the Templars are all about. (Again, in theory.)

[Chibi Elemental]

Medical examiner reports that Anders died from the legendary murder knife that was accompanied the warden and hawk in their adventures/misadventures. Sadly he will not return in my game ever again... Unless the Qun demands it (bioware decides murder knife was ineffective because of plot!)

[Pierce Miller]

They're meant to be champions of the public good, in theory, though whether they are or not depends on how you see your PC's motivations. As for not wanting Anders to off himself, he's just proven he's a threat to innocent lives by blowing up a large building and raining pieces of it down on the city. Demolitionists never explode buildings. They either knock them down with compensational-looking-machines or explode the support beams so that it folds in on itself. And then there's the fact that he tried to kill Ella for no worse offense than calling him a demon. Anders killing himself makes the world more safe, and that's what the Templars are all about. (Again, in theory.)

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter I suppose.

[Pierce Miller]

Even if this were true, which it isn't, what do your morals have to do with Thedas'? 

 

Female Dalish elf who performed the Ultimate Sacrifice

Male Mage Hawke who sided with the mages. 

Well my morals are how I make choices in my life, so everything I suppose.

[RobRam10]

Bringing Chaos and Terror to Thedas is worthy goal.

[Vulkan Lives]

Why do I imagine all the pro-Anders people wearing fedoras?

[Pierce Miller]

Why do I imagine all the pro-Anders people wearing fedoras?

They're snappy dressers?

[Merc Mama]

Oh Anders, he was my second whinny brother throughout DA2 & when he blew the Chantry. I was relieved that something finally happened, that started the war but I was horrified.. That he used me to help him kill people, that he said it was the only way. And I killed him, because it was the only way to make amends for all those that he hurt. 
I'm happy he won't be in Inquisition, because I'd kill him again and I don't want him to be alive.. Still making his excuses. 

[LadyLaLa]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter I suppose.

It's all in who records the history. In universe, Andraste, her rebellion and her religion have killed hundreds of thousands at least, but she's painted as a saint because she won through her following. If Anders causes a successful revolution among mages and the Chantry falls, whether he was killed by Hawke or not, the same may happen to him, but only if those who follow him win

[Pierce Miller]

It's all in who records the history. In universe, Andraste, her rebellion and her religion have killed hundreds of thousands at least, but she's painted as a saint because she won through her following. If Anders causes a successful revolution among mages and the Chantry falls, whether he was killed by Hawke or not, the same may happen to him, but only if those who follow him win

Never noticed the similarity before 

[Br3admax]

Well my morals are how I make choices in my life, so everything I suppose.

Aside form the basics, your morals should have next to nothing to do with your character's. Either way, there's nothing immoral about letting Anders kill himself. 

[Kierro Ren]

I remember in a stream, they said the right choices in DAO n 2, will have bad consequences. And bad choices, will have a good outcome. And Anders says he'll meet an horrible end, doing something great. I seriously doubt the knife to the back was, THAT, horrible. It sounded more like he'd sacrifice himself. He could of sacrificed himself to protect the Inquisitor. But you killed him, meaning no Anders to sacrifice himself to protect the Inquisitor, and you die.

[Pierce Miller]

Aside form the basics, your morals should have next to nothing to do with your character's. Either way, there's nothing immoral about letting Anders kill himself. 

I always play as the ideal version of myself. I can understand killing him but making him hate himself so much that he commits suicide is probably the most evil thing I've seen in DA.

[Br3admax]

"It's okay, Anders, those hundreds of people you just killed don't matter." 

 

As to you playing yourself, well that's a good way to be unsatisfied with a product, because the Inquisitor won't think like you.