No, she didn't care what Hawke was, she directly blames them for getting caught even after you tell Trask you're not with the templars. All she wanted was you dead,
The human mind tends to blame people for things, It's a method of defence. Plus Hawke did kill her lover.
It's amazing how not a single moderate mage has ever said this. I like how you think it's okay to think for them, but not okay for the Templars to.
Oppressors vs the oppressed? I know who I'd side with.
Oppressors vs the oppressed? I know who I'd side with.
I'm sure those kids fresh of the farm in Origins who liked the Tower better than their old homes, or the noble level education, royal positions, high ranks, positions in the Chantry and their military, cushiony life, and magical powers were all just educated into these people to love from birth. Make bless 'em.
The whole situation with Anders' actions always becomes this morally complex debate for most people.
The thing with those moral choices - it's all a matter of perspective. Some see heads, some see tails. To let him live because you can't raise your hand against him? Or let him live so he will sufffer because he will never forget all the lives he took?
To kill him because he's your friend and you'll grant him peace at last or kill him because you think he did unforgivable thing that only can be washed off with his own blood?
There's no right and wrong answers at all.
I'm sure those kids fresh of the farm in Origins who liked the Tower better than their old homes, or the noble level education, royal positions, high ranks, positions in the Chantry and their military, cushiony life, and magical powers were all just educated into these people to love from birth. Make bless 'em.
They're children, You really think they know the gravity of their situation?
The human mind tends to blame people for things, It's a method of defence. Plus Hawke did kill her lover.
Really?
So, what was Hawke supposed to do? Sit there and die?
Damn you BSN for not letting me unlike things I clicked on by accident.
Really?
So, what was Hawke supposed to do? Sit there and die?
No, He was meant to kill her to survive. I know why she did what she did though.
They're children, You really think they know the gravity of their situation?
They grow up and still like it. They were educated to love living in a palace! Damn those Templars!!!
Might as well say mages in Tevinter are sacrificing slaves to survive.
They grow up and still like it. They were educated to love living in a palace! Damn those Templars!!!
They're also educated to fear themselves. Take the old three men in a cave story, If all they know is prison then how will they realise there's much more to life.
They grow up and still like it. They were educated to love living in a palace! Damn those Templars!!!
The mages in Ferelden were having it pretty good. Most of them were acting like allergic pansies. And you'd think that after the Broken Circle, they'd be the ones to scrub the floors and not templars.
Might as well say mages in Tevinter are sacrificing slaves to survive.
Well they are, They need it for their economy. If that fall then the Qunari come in and slaughter them.
Well they are, They need it for their economy. If that fall then the Qunari come in and slaughter them.
And Qentin? Don't tell me he was a grieving man who couldn't get over it and understand why he mutilated so many women, Hawke's mother included. Or what's his name who wanted to know more about necromancy and used you if you let him live?
I'm sure those kids fresh of the farm in Origins who liked the Tower better than their old homes, or the noble level education, royal positions, high ranks, positions in the Chantry and their military, cushiony life, and magical powers were all just educated into these people to love from birth. Make bless 'em.
And Qentin? Don't tell me he was a grieving man who couldn't get over it and understand why he mutilated so many women, Hawke's mother included. Or what's his name who wanted to know more about necromancy and used you if you let him live?
Quentin was mentally ill, The other wanted to know the secrets of necromancy. You can justify any action, even one taken by the Templars. It's just that I see mages as being more sympathetic.
Uh didn't they do that with the default world state though?
Hawke is a male mage.
I said "supplemental material". In none of the books or the comics or the World of Thedas do they establish who Hawke or the Warden are. For the default world state, yes, they have to have a warden and a hawke, but the default world state isn't "canon". Bioware have expressly said they put together the default world state so that it will have the fewest callbacks to confuse newcomers. That's why the default warden performed the ultimate sacrifice.
Quentin was mentally ill, The other wanted to know the secrets of necromancy. You can justify any action, even one taken by the Templars. It's just that I see mages as being more sympathetic.
Grace too became mentally ill if she kidnaps people and lies about her motives just to lure Hawke out and have them killed.
Grace too became mentally ill if she kidnaps people and lies about her motives just to lure Hawke out and have them killed.
Well then can you blame her? I can't hate someone who's insane.
Here is the thing. Mages in Dragon age have some serious drawbacks not considering to the whole circle and templars.
every mage hears voices from the fade when they handle magic, and when they sleep they have even more vivid dreams of the Fade. every mage is always at risk to become possessed and become an abomination.
This is important because this is what makes the issue not so cut and dry. Mages have to deal with the fact that at any moment if they loose control they can become a monster and kill everyone around them. Regardless of what others say, they are walking time-bombs.
You also must conider the fact that Thedas is for the most part a feudal land, it is a medival/renaissance era land. the modern freedoms that we are so used to are not really part of this style of setting. If you think that mages are prisones, then what about the peasents that work the land for the lords or the city elves who are stuck in the alianages.
A city elf who is taken to the circle is living a much better life, voices in her dream and head and chance to become an abomination not withstanding.
Anders' condition should worsen if you spared him in DA2. He was clearly on a downward spiral throughout the course of Dragon Age 2. A happy ending for Anders just wouldn't make sense, IMO.
Here is the thing. Mages in Dragon age have some serious drawbacks not considering to the whole circle and templars.
every mage hears voices from the fade when they handle magic, and when they sleep they have even more vivid dreams of the Fade. every mage is always at risk to become possessed and become an abomination.
This is important because this is what makes the issue not so cut and dry. Mages have to deal with the fact that at any moment if they loose control they can become a monster and kill everyone around them. Regardless of what others say, they are walking time-bombs.
You also must conider the fact that Thedas is for the most part a feudal land, it is a medival/renaissance era land. the modern freedoms that we are so used to are not really part of this style of setting. If you think that mages are prisones, then what about the peasents that work the land for the lords or the city elves who are stuck in the alianages.
A city elf who is taken to the circle is living a much better life, voices in her dream and head and chance to become an abomination not withstanding.
So then slaughter, imprisonment and universal hatred are justified? Because they might become abominations, See I don't see the logic there.
Anders' condition should worsen if you spared him in DA2. He was clearly on a downward spiral throughout the course of Dragon Age 2. A happy ending for Anders just wouldn't make sense, IMO.
I figured he'd be assassinated in all honesty, Then he'd become a martyr that some mages might rally under. Would be cool to see.
Well then can you blame her? I can't hate someone who's insane.
Why?
o.o I mean insane people are insane.
Their actions are the result of alien reasoning, their motives are usually outlandish and to top it off, they usually don't bath.
Well then can you blame her? I can't hate someone who's insane.
I can blame her because she's an ungrateful b***h.
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