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[themikefest]

He has no health. He's taking a dirt nap.

[AresKeith]

He has no health. He's taking a dirt nap.

 

I heard that's good for your health

[Pierce Miller]

That would be bad.

For the residents of Thedas sure but for my entertainment it'd be great

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Hope not.

There is a thing in WoT where a mage cures the woman he loves of cancer. It requires blood magic, and it kills him.

[ZerioctheTank]

........Anders.........ugh!

[Bigdoser]

There is a thing in WoT where a mage cures the woman he loves of cancer. It requires blood magic, and it kills him.

That is quite unfortunate and sad.  

[Pierce Miller]

There is a thing in WoT where a mage cures the woman he loves of cancer. It requires blood magic, and it kills him.

I guess it required too much blood?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

That is quite unfortunate and sad.  

I was thinking that it might have been his methods. If he boiled it away tumor by tumor, he might have had more time to recover, and also he might have been able to leave parts of her body alone.

[Br3admax]

I doubt it would help her in time. The disease could probably recover just as fast, or faster, than he would. 

[Pierce Miller]

I doubt it would help her in time. The disease could probably recover just as fast, or faster, than he would. 

Not unless he used other people for the fuel 

[Chernaya]

Maybe he'll be in constant Justice mode, I mean the physical world seems to be merging with the Fade and he becomes Justice whenever he enters the fade.

 

I've been thinking we might see this same thing. Justice VA confirmed but no Anders points pretty directly to it. Anders might be the shell but with the fade pouring everywhere Vengeance probably reigns the entire time. Even if you killed Anders, he could just yet again be using a corpse to walk around in like old times. Only this time he's a much worse version of his former self, corrupted by all dem human emotions. 

 

edit: finding all the cancer jokes pretty unclassy. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I doubt it would help her in time. The disease could probably recover just as fast, or faster, than he would. 

If he completely destroyed as many of the largest tumors as he could to the point where nothing of them was left to grow back and spread, and he didn't strain much when burning out any individual tumor due to the relatively small scale of the spell involved, it seems to me that he could buy himself a good deal of R&R time. (Or were there already mages trying it that way?)

[Br3admax]

If he completely destroyed as many of the largest tumors as he could to the point where nothing of them was left to grow back and spread, and he didn't strain much when burning out any individual tumor due to the relatively small scaled of the spell involved, it seems to me that he could buy himself a good deal of R&R time.

Or just get someone else to help. A lot of someone elses. Of course, Blood Magic usually deals with demons. So many causes for death. A desire demon kept Eamon from dying of poison, for a price. Something similar could have happened here. 

Not unless he used other people for the fuel 

Nah. Thoughts like that are why Circle reform never happens. 

[Br3admax]

Lolno, I just thought it was funny, 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Or just get someone else to help. A lot of someone elses. Of course, Blood Magic usually deals with demons. So many causes for death. A desire demon kept Eamon from dying of poison, for a price. Something similar could have happened here. 

I didn't think there was always a demon involved, though. Sort of like how while spirits can perceive always perceive magic (unless it's blood magic and they're not demons), most magic doesn't directly use spirits. Ironic crap like that seems like it would only happen if you either didn't know precisely what you were doing, or directly used a demon. (Though you can argue that the former is always true in cases where the latter is.)

[aerisblight]

I am pretty sure my hawke has him chained up to a bed.... soooo.... he's alright. Probably waiting

[fizzypop]

I'm sure those kids fresh of the farm in Origins who liked the Tower better than their old homes, or the noble level education, royal positions, high ranks, positions in the Chantry and their military, cushiony life, and magical powers were all just educated into these people to love from birth. Make bless 'em. 

You do realize that it doesn't matter that some mages were okay with being oppressed. SOME WERENT. They should be allowed to say "no I don't want to live my life in the circle". But they didn't get that choice. This is basically a cycle in human history we blame the oppressed instead of blaming the oppressors. Morrigan proves that mages don't need to be controlled. She has lived her entire life outside of the chantry's control and yet she hasn't turned to demons. Maybe just maybe the chantry should teach mages HOW to control themselves instead of that they are evil and sinful. You know give them tools to better their lives and not control them.

 

I will point out Morrigan did not want to live in the circle even in ferelden when arguably that was the best circle. So yeah some people just want their freedom to live their lives like everyone else on their own terms.

[Br3admax]

You do realize that it doesn't matter that some mages were okay with being oppressed. SOME WERENT. They should be allowed to say "no I don't want to live my life in the circle". But they didn't get that choice. This is basically a cycle in human history we blame the oppressed instead of blaming the oppressors. Morrigan proves that mages don't need to be controlled. She has lived her entire life outside of the chantry's control and yet she hasn't turned to demons. Maybe just maybe the chantry should teach mages HOW to control themselves instead of that they are evil and sinful. You know give them tools to better their lives and not control them.

lol. I'm glad you went back pages just to find this, just to act like mages aren't locked up for a reason. It doesn't matter what intent the mage themselves have, magic is always a danger and if they want to continue using it, which they need to remain safe from demons, they'll have to be supervised. It's that simple. I also like how you tried to compare Morrigan to the average mage. Not only is she a party member, and therefore already above average, she's also a WotW. She's much more powerful than the average spellslinger. 

[Incantrix]

Well he's traversing with my Hawke who forgave him out of love and loyalty, so chances are he's alive.

[LadyLaLa]

You do realize that it doesn't matter that some mages were okay with being oppressed. SOME WERENT. They should be allowed to say "no I don't want to live my life in the circle". But they didn't get that choice. This is basically a cycle in human history we blame the oppressed instead of blaming the oppressors. Morrigan proves that mages don't need to be controlled. She has lived her entire life outside of the chantry's control and yet she hasn't turned to demons. Maybe just maybe the chantry should teach mages HOW to control themselves instead of that they are evil and sinful. You know give them tools to better their lives and not control them.

 

I will point out Morrigan did not want to live in the circle even in ferelden when arguably that was the best circle. So yeah some people just want their freedom to live their lives like everyone else on their own terms.

This I agree with, no matter your opinion on Morrigan, she won't turn to demons. Hell, you send her into the Fade to free Connor and give her the chance to make a deal and she flat out refuses. What she has over most, tho, is a competent teacher (say what you want about Flemeth, she's obviously HIGHLY skilled in magic). I agree with some of the other posters here, if you have magic, you NEED training. Being trained and being stuck in a Circle your whole life, however, are two entirely different things. That's something that people in universe seem to not quite understand, however. I look forward to the Inquisitor, especially if they're a mage (but not exclusively a mage. Someone like, say, a Dalish elf or a Qunari mercenary might be able to see it from a comrade/friend's point of view from before they joined the Inqisition), maybe being able to fix that

[LOLandStuff]

With a mother like Flemeth, are you surprised?

 

Maybe Flemeth should start mentoring mages to scare the living hell out of them to not even consider talking to a demon.

[LadyLaLa]

Maybe Flemeth should start mentoring mages to scare the living hell out of them to not even consider talking to a demon.

lol while that'd be funny as heck, I think we'd still have a few issues there with apprentices running away

[LOLandStuff]

lol while that'd be funny as heck, I think we'd still have a few issues there with apprentices running away

 

 

You're not really giving them an option. Either accept Flemeth or go to the Circle.

[Pierce Miller]

You're not really giving them an option. Either accept Flemeth or go to the Circle.

Still choose Flemeth

[LadyLaLa]

You're not really giving them an option. Either accept Flemeth or go to the Circle.

How's this:

Set up the circle as an actual school.

Don't cut off contact with family, it's not meant to isolate from those who don't wish harm on the students, but also set up realistic ideas of magic. It's not a curse, but it doesn't give you free reign to control others.

Don't keep the Harrowing a secret (hence scaring some into accepting Tranquility) but let the student take the Harrowing when he/she feels ready for it.

Don't limit a mage in what they choose to do with their life: they get educated and want to go back to helping their family on a farm? Fine, the world does need farmers, too, and their skills may help.

As for Templars, a handful may be at a Circle (much like how some modern High Schools have a police officer or two on hand) but they're not the authority, they don't limit the students.

Educate them on all varieties of magic, both their positive sides and more dangerous aspects. Tell them what Blood Magic is, but also how easy that makes you for a demon to possess (combine that with knowing they'll need to face a demon head on and that'd serve as a good deterrent. Who really wants to be easier to possess?) Sate curiosity in the theoretical sense, and they're less likely to experiment on their own

 

 

Vilifying them, saying that it's a curse, will only end up alienating mages. In 1000 years, that has to have happened more than a handful of times, hence why the worst has happened, the Right of Annulment, 17 times prior to DA:O. The more they're treated like normal people, the more understanding normal people have of them, the less hatred and fear there will be, and the better it will be for everyone