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#176
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Why does everyone act like abominations aren't a thing and that they're really common outside the Circle? Why does everyone think that because the player character and their party can do something, everyone can, even though the summary for almost every game calls the party extraordinary? :\ 


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Anders isn't going to be killed off that easily. I wouldn't worry too much about him.


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Why does everyone act like abominations aren't a thing and that they're really common outside the Circle? Why does everyone think that because the player character and their party can do something, everyone can, even though the summary for almost every game calls the party extraordinary? :\ 

Technically you can't both act like they aren't a thing and act like they're really common.



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Technically the "aren't" extends to the entire sentence unless a comma is used to separate it. 



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Technically you can't both act like they aren't a thing and act like they're really common.

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Why does everyone act like abominations aren't a thing and that they're really common outside the Circle? Why does everyone think that because the player character and their party can do something, everyone can, even though the summary for almost every game calls the party extraordinary? :\ 

 

Aside from Connor, do we even encounter an abomination in DAO that's not in the Circle? That would indicate, to me, that abominations aren't common in normal, non-Hellmouth places in Thedas. 


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Aside from Connor, do we even encounter an abomination in DAO that's not in the Circle? That would indicate, to me, that abominations aren't common in normal, non-Hellmouth places in Thedas. 

Have you never heard of the mage collective? 



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They're snappy dressers? :P

I wonder if their necks are just as snappy...

 

jk jk

 

But seriously...



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Aside from Connor, do we even encounter an abomination in DAO that's not in the Circle? That would indicate, to me, that abominations aren't common in normal, non-Hellmouth places in Thedas. 

There's the abomination in the Mage's Collective quest "Have You Seen Me?," who was loose in the countryside and who the Templars had no reason to believe existed. Then there's the rage demons and rage abominations in "Something Wicked," the latter of which are implied to be part of a coven of maleficarum. The demons, both with and without hosts, were loose in the slums of a city which from the architecture looks rather flammable.

 

As for abominations being "common," nobody claims that. Even the Chantry, as it works to limit the dangers and prevalence of abominations, is quite glad to be able to say they're not common.


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Its possible Anders might become Justice more often with the breaches but I highly doubt Justice would ignore demons. He is willing to kill Hawke for making a deal with a demon, not to mention Anders' romance is immediately ended if you make deals with demons. All I'm saying is lets not be pessimistic about it.  ;)



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I wasn't happy when he chose to blow up the Chantry full of innocents instead of targeting the Templar's barracks.  However, I do agree with him that something had to be done in order to instigate the major change that needed to take place because everything was stagnant with unhappy mages and cruel templars.  

 

I believed it best to keep Anders alive and have him own up to what he did and fight, cause it's going to be a long, hard fight.  

 

I'm curious what will happen to him in Inquisition.  And, at least one of my Hawke's romanced him - that would be interesting to follow up, too.


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I wasn't happy when he chose to blow up the Chantry full of innocents instead of targeting the Templar's barracks.  However, I do agree with him that something had to be done in order to instigate the major change that needed to take place because everything was stagnant with unhappy mages and cruel templars.  

 

I believed it best to keep Anders alive and have him own up to what he did and fight, cause it's going to be a long, hard fight.  

 

I'm curious what will happen to him in Inquisition.  And, at least one of my Hawke's romanced him - that would be interesting to follow up, too.

 

Yeah,why didn't he blow up the building where Meredith was? They were technically the most guilty immediate party... I understand that it is the Chantry who is ultimately guilty, but I think he would have lost less friends if he killed the a-hole templars of the town instead of the endearing and much loved Revered Mother.



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As for abominations being "common," nobody claims that. Even the Chantry, as it works to limit the dangers and prevalence of abominations, is quite glad to be able to say they're not common.

More common



#189
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More common

Thankfully, abominations are rare. The Circle has methods for weeding out those who are too at risk for demonic possession, and scant few mages would give up their free will to submit to such a bond with a demon. But once an abomination is created, it will do its best to create more. Considering that entire squads of templars have been known to fall at the hands of a single abomination, it is not surprising that the Chantry takes the business of the Circle of Magi very seriously indeed.

 

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Exactly. The system works. Outside of the Circle, abominations will be much more prevalent. 



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Yeah,why didn't he blow up the building where Meredith was? They were technically the most guilty immediate party... I understand that it is the Chantry who is ultimately guilty, but I think he would have lost less friends if he killed the a-hole templars of the town instead of the endearing and much loved Revered Mother.

 

He was fed up with the Revered Mother never taking a side, just calming the arguing kids (Meredith and Orsino) down when they got too heated.  I can see his point with the passive stance the powerful Chantry held being aggravating, but the Mother was the last person he needed to nuke.  And, your absolutely right, he would've had less rivals if he didn't go that route.  



#192
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The Chantry did nothing for 6 years, not the mention the last three years where blood mages were running amok. You'd think they'd keep a close eye on Kirkwall what with the thin Veil, and whatever abnormalities it had.

And Sister Nightingale failed at her job baddly. She should've gathered some info of just how bad things were.

And don't get me started on Elthina and her "If I pray hard enough things might calm down."

 

Makes you wonder what the Seekers were doing. In three years they could've spared at least one to investigate.


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#193
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Exactly. The system works. Outside of the Circle, abominations will be much more prevalent. 

Oh. I figured I was misunderstanding you somehow.



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The Chantry did nothing for 6 years, not the mention the last three years where blood mages were running amok. You'd think they'd keep a close eye on Kirkwall what with the thin Veil, and whatever abnormalities it had.

And Sister Nightingale failed at her job baddly. She should've gathered some info of just how bad things were.

And don't get me started on Elthina and her "If I pray hard enough things might calm down."

 

Makes you wonder what the Seekers were doing. In three years they could've spared at least one to investigate.

Look at the Qunari compound in Lowtown during Act III, and get back to me. 



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Even though I hate him and usually kill him, I've kept him alive in my default world state.. I hope to see something interesting. I hardly think he'll be "healthy" either way. Whether it's Justice or the Calling or just simple self-awareness of what a gigantic douche he is.



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Didn't feel like reading 8 pages, so forgive if this has already been said.

There is an extremely good chance Anders can possibly appear in Inquisition. This comes from the voice actors. Not Ander's, but Justice's; who has never voiced another character besides Justice and will be returning for this game.

 

It is quite possible that if you spared Anders, Justice will have completely overtaken him. If you killed him, we'll either see him in a new host, the Fade, or possibly even inhabiting the dead body of Anders. That last one's gonna ****** off fans; can't get rid of him even if you kill him! 


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#197
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If he turns up and he's just a meatbag for Justice, I will kill him, no matter how much i love him.


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If he turns up and he's just a meatbag for Justice, I will kill him, no matter how much i love him.

I'd want to keep him around to be honest, Would be a marvelous weapon.



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keep in mind though that the circle system lasted a nearly a 1000 years.

The Caste system in Orzammer has lasted much longer than a 1000 years so why doesn't anyone argue that it is a good system?  The Casteless should just accept their place.

 

By that same token of 'duration = good' Tevinter is shining example to all of Thedas.  <_<



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The Caste system in Orzammer has lasted much longer than a 1000 years so why doesn't anyone argue that it is a good system?  The Casteless should just accept their place.

 

By that same token of 'duration = good' Tevinter is shining example to all of Thedas.  <_<

 

Tevinter isn't the Imperium. It's kind of a whole new beast.. for better or worse. 

 

But I get your point. Duration doesn't necessarily mean better.


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