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[Olwaye]

DalishRanger wrote...

I knew what you meant, I was just being specific/a smart ass. You know us Americans.

I know, I was being a european smartass myself

See, for me - I have no problem showing the sensuality/sex side of a relationship, and I have no problem with bawdy humor. But, I think most of the strongest relationships are friends-first. Not necessarily friends-turned-lovers (though that is the case with Leliana and Legam), but lovers who are also friends and can simply enjoy each other's company/doing normal things together.

That's my point, I can relate to your Sol. I am no spring chicken anymore ,( without being that old) I do know there is more to a relationship than passion and drama.

I guess in some ways my parents are a bit of an influence in how I tend to view good (in my opinion) romances. Er... Minus the sensual/sex side. I try not to think about that regarding them.

 Nobody wants to think of this aspect of their parents relationship, (despite the fact that anyone is the leaving proof of it.)

[DalishRanger]

Olwaye wrote...
I know, I was being a european smartass myself

It's like our own little World War of smartassery! ... Except... Wait... Both WW America and France were on the same side... Bah, whatever! Have at you, sir!

Olwaye wrote...

That's my point, I can relate to your Sol. I am no spring chicken anymore ,( without being that old) I do know there is more to a relationship than passion and drama.

I'm only 23 and been through two long-term relationships, and even when I was on my first I realized there was more than passion and drama. Heck, even as a teen when I was more into passion/drama in fictional romances, I still had my limits and prefered there be more to things. I didn't even bother dating until I was out of high school because I knew most high school relationships were all about drama. Never appealed to me. But then again, I've always been the cautious sort and, supposedly, wise for my age. That's what people tell me, at least. I just think I'm another damn foolish youngin', but who knows? XD

Olwaye wrote...
 Nobody wants to think of this aspect of their parents relationship, (despite the fact that anyone is the leaving proof of it.)

I know, and I acknowledge my parents had to have sex at least twice to have me and my brother, and I'm fine with that. But like anybody else, it's best not to think about it too much. I just like to make fun of myself for going at the thought. xD A bit exaggerated, but not totally inaccurate to the truth.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 14 février 2010 - 02:29 .

[Olwaye]

Ah well it's good to be a smartass sometimes, especially between french and american as our peolple tend to see each other only through age old cliches.



From what I read on this forum and on your other net publication I would agree withe people that say you are wise. Much more than I was at 23 and probably more than I am now that I am 30.



Anyone who wonder too much about their parents sex life might end up in a psychiatric ward or holding a small motel, dressing as their mother and stabbing inocent lady under the shower.



Ah well it's nearly 4am in France, my bed is calling to me. Have nice evening.

[DalishRanger]

Argh. I know. XP I get tired of the anti-French stuff over here. And I've actually been to Paris and was treated mostly like crap... But I'm not stupid enough to hold the actions of a few jackasses against an entire country.

Er, go me then? xD; Trust me, for all my babbling and perspective, it doesn't stop me from making mistakes and doing stupid things. Just different kinds of stupid things most people my age get into.

Too true, too true!

Well, good night then!

[Olwaye]

DalishRanger wrote...

Argh. I know. XP I get tired of the anti-French stuff over here. And I've actually been to Paris and was treated mostly like crap... But I'm not stupid enough to hold the actions of a few jackasses against an entire country.

Quick one before I go and join Morpheus (another easy lover that one )

Please accept my apologies. As a parisian myself, and a profesional of the catering industry,  it always bugs me when my fellow citizen treat tourist like s**t, I always enjoyed having american in Paris and showing tem around, taking  them out of the tourist traps. As I use to say to my friends when I was leaving in England, France is a lovely country, shame there's so much french people in there.

This time I'm off, speak to you later.

[Vanalia]

Don't go to Paris XD most of the time people there are: busy, cold, distant... and some tourists think all people in Paris are all French but I'm sure 30% are not. So paris is not the good city to know how french people are. Go in smaller cities, people are far more friendly especially in the south west



But it's boring you know, all these cliches against french people: "french eat frogs and snails all the time, they smell like their cheese" -___-

[DalishRanger]

Olwaye wrote...

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Please accept my apologies. As a parisian myself, and a profesional of the catering industry,  it always bugs me when my fellow citizen treat tourist like s**t, I always enjoyed having american in Paris and showing tem around, taking  them out of the tourist traps. As I use to say to my friends when I was leaving in England, France is a lovely
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[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie] Aw, thank you. But as I said, I don't let the actions of a few jackasses shape my view of an entire nation. I mean, I love America, but we're far from perfect - I've seen my fellow countrymen behave in ways that embarrasses me terribly to share a nationality with them.

And there WERE some nice people there, our group just ran into more of the troublemakers.

@Evolvana: Bit late for that advice, as my visit to Paris was... Uh... About nine years ago. And it was part of a group trip to several European countries. I would've LOVED to see the smaller cities/countryside, but alas, we didn't have the time. Still, there were some nice sights to see in Paris, and it wasn't all bad. It was having weird orange gunk thrown at us our first night there, the horridly maintained hotel, the near mugging at the Eiffel Tower and a few other things that sucked.

Yet one of my most treasured possessions was also acquired in Paris: a caricature drawn of me by one of the most pleasant and jolly old men I've ever encountered, in any country.

Besides, while most of my background is Irish and English, part of my ancestry traces back to France. If I hated the French on principle, wouldn't I be hating part of myself?

Modifié par DalishRanger, 14 février 2010 - 07:07 .

[Vanalia]

Hmm that's a shame that tourists usually only have time to visit Paris and that's all :/ because of that they usually think that French people are all like parisians. There a nice parisians but most of them must seem rude to tourists (and to other french people as well).

[DalishRanger]

Trust me, I've traveled around enough in my short life to know that Paris isn't the only place that treats tourists like crap. The trip I went on was something one of my teachers did every summer with students - go to three different European countries. There was only one constant - Paris. He LOVED Paris, and would always end his trips there. Apparently, our trip was the first time he had problems there.

I'm a history/culture studies nerd who's moved around a few times and seen different places. There are certain trends I see too - people in major city areas (in ANY country) tend to be more rushed and blunt, while those further out in rural areas are more relaxed, yet also more prone to be set in tradition - for good or ill. And even then it's a generalization, and I've seen exceptions to both.

Point is, I don't judge somebody just because of where they're from, regardless of what experiences I may have had in that area, if any. I certainly don't hate the French because of Paris, or even because of any differences in political/global issues between Americans and the French. I take people on an individual basis.

[DalishRanger]

Waiting for payment on a commission to go through so I can continue it. In the meantime, worked a little on the last chapter of SoL and another Legam fan art. Both are rather sad, so to take a break from the angst, I had fun with this:



... Well, I find it amusing.

[Olwaye]

  hope Oghren and Gorim will join.
Will they have specials evenings with ZZ TOP as musical break?

[DalishRanger]

Olwaye wrote...

  hope Oghren and Gorim will join.
Will they have specials evenings with ZZ TOP as musical break?

Of course! To both!

[DalishRanger]

Went back to working on the other fan art; as I don't usually show works in progress, I figured I would for this piece. Here's the sketching stage, done with a Wacom tablet in Photoshop:



It's a teenaged Legam and Jowan. I figured since they were such close friends pre-Origins, I should do something with them. What're they angsting about? Well, you can either wait and see when I'm done, or try to figure it out: I will say the subject has been briefly touched upon in SoL during Legam's musings. And no, it wasn't when he was reflecting on Jowan specifically.

[amethyst_rose2009]

The beard one was hilarious!  And I'm not even a fan of facial hair.  I won't even let my hubby grow a beard, hehe.  But that scene was too funny.


Can't wait to see how the Jowan one will look when it's finished.  I like Jowan, even if he is a bit of a selfish coward, lol.

[DalishRanger]

xD I love facial hair myself (though some guys do look better without it), but what made me do that caption was watching that scene and realizing EVERYONE had a beard in that shot. xD

Me too. He's also a bit of whiner, but I can't help but feel sorry for the lad. I don't think he's evil, he's just got very poor judgment/doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes.

As for the picture.... Just finished inking it:

Modifié par DalishRanger, 14 février 2010 - 11:45 .

[DalishRanger]

Flat colors done and background (very) roughed in. Will probably make most of the BG a colored blur/out of focus, as I suck at furniture/architecture.

[DalishRanger]

Basic shading and starting the background:

[amethyst_rose2009]

I love it.  LOL, it looks like Jowan is really frustrating your pc.  Ha, he does that to all of us.  Though I do feel sorry for the poor guy when he's locked up in Redcliffe Castle and what happens to him afterward.  At least I assume something bad happens to him.  I never saw him again after Eamon woke up.

[DalishRanger]

Heh, actually, Legam's upset about something else, Jowan's trying to make him feel better, but is epic failing at it. XD



I think Jowan's pretty much screwed if you don't let him go when you first get to Redcliffe. If you do that though, you can't save both Connor and Isolde, as Jowan won't be around to make the ritual suggestion, which leads to the Circle solution.

[TotoroTori]

and the moral is don't go do Blood Magic......



anyways wonder what they are talking about?

[DalishRanger]

I'll have a brief narration to go with this when it's done, so you'll see. XD

[TotoroTori]

DalishRanger wrote...

I'll have a brief narration to go with this when it's done, so you'll see. XD

Yay

I'll be lurking here then if thats okay:ph34r:

[DalishRanger]

That's fine.

[DalishRanger]

Almost finished, just have to play around with mood lighting:

[DalishRanger]

Finished. Added slight blue and violet tints. Click on the image for a full view. Accompanying narration follows below. It hasn't been proofread, so apologies for any typos or other errors.



"Really? All that over a few pickpockets?" The elven apprentice arched a caramel colored eyebrow at her human companion. "I mean, I can see the shem-” Mindful of her company, she cleared her throat and corrected her language, “-humans committing hate crimes against elves after one got caught burgling, but against other humans?”

Her male classmate lowered his tone, “Not all humans are the same, you know. These were Rivaini. You know how they are. Heretics and cutthroats all. I doubt any of the victims of the fallout were really all that- Oof!”

The elf elbowed his stomach, nudging her head in the direction of yet another apprentice, sitting upon his bunk and well within hearing distance. He hung his head in his hands, dark brown skin peeking out from the sleeves of his robes – a Rivaini human. Legam, if the apprentice remembered the name correctly.

He felt his cheeks flush in embarrassment at the prospect of being overheard. Ushering the elf beside him along, he quickly retreated out of the dorm room. If the Rivaini teen heard their conversation, he made no comment.

Unnoticed by the retreating apprentices, behind Legam nervously paced another young mage. He wrung his pale hands as he searched for a proper response. Finally deciding to break the awkward silence, he stopped, running fingers through his shaggy dark hair, “I-I’m sure those attacks on the Rivaini in Denerim had nothing to do with your parents, Legam.”

“What, have you been studying divination?” Unmoving, Legam remained lurched forward, his back facing his friend.

“Well, ah… No, but…”

“Then you don’t know anything, Jowan.” Legam growled.

“Must you be so fatalistic?” Jowan sighed, “There’s no way to know that the fight your father got into was related. Bar scuffles happen all the time. I’m sure your parents are just busy, and that’s why your mother hasn’t-”

“-She’s never gone three months without writing, Jowan!” Legam barked, snapping his head in the direction of his fellow teenager. Jowan noted the watery sheen of tears cascading down the Rivaini’s cheeks. “Not in all the years I’ve been here! Even when they were harassed, Mom always got a letter through. Nothing would’ve stopped her, nothing short of… Short…”

His voice cracked, his speech devolving into half-sobs and sniffles. Jowan sighed heavily, frowning. What did one say to a friend whose parents were, in all likelihood, murdered in a small race riot?

Nothing came to mind.

Rubbing his neck uncomfortably, Jowan watched Legam bury his head in his hands again, shoulders shaking. Sighing one more time, the pale apprentice quietly approached the bed, sitting down on the opposite side of the mattress. Tentatively, he reached a hand out towards Legam, gently placing his hand on a still quaking shoulder. The other boy’s body jerked at the touch, and Jowan recoiled in trepidation.

“I… I don’t know what to…” He murmured, before yelping in surprise. Legam pulled him into a fierce hug, crying into his shoulder. Jowan sat still for a moment, deciding not to warn Legam that his robes were quickly getting rather wet. Instead, he raised his hand once more, awkwardly patting the distraught boy on the back.

“I-I’m sorry I snapped,” Legam finally choked, “It’s not your fault. It’s…” His voice broke again, and he clenched a handful of Jowan’s robes in his fists.

This time Jowan patted Legam’s back with more sincerity, eventually returning the hug, “It’s all right, I understand.”

He felt the other mage smile, his sniffling slowing. Legam pulled back, wiping his face with his sleeve. “All right… That’s enough… Just… Go before the other students get the wrong idea.”

Jowan chuckled. Of course Legam would attempt to deflect his worries with humor. He clapped a hand on the Rivaini’s shoulder. “Only if you really want me to.”

Legam rubbed a reddened eye, “I’ll be fine, go. You’re supposed to be in Chant Studies right now, anyway.”

Jowan grumbled, rising to his feet, “I suppose. Just… Don’t listen to the other students, all right? They’ve always been jealous of your talents. You can’t take anything they say at face value.”

Legam shook his head, using his sleeve as a tissue once more, “Maybe.”

Silence.

Nodding his head, Jowan turned on his heel and ventured towards the door.

“Jowan?”

He stopped, looking over his shoulder, “Hm?”

“I’m glad you’re… You. I’m… Glad you’re my friend.”

Jowan smiled softly, merely nodding in reply before walking out of the dormitory, closing the door quietly behind him.

~*~*~

Back in... I think chapter 6 of SoL, it's mentioned in passing that Legam's parents, Rivaini immegrants, were harrassed by native Fereldens and it's implied that the encounters ended up rather deadly. I decided to expand upon this a bit, and explore Legam's friendship with Jowan pre-Origins.

If you don't know who the Rivaini are, there's a few facts on them at the Dragon Age wiki.

Oh Maker, the angst... If I didn't have a comic page to color, I would start on more Legam/Leliana fluff. If I have time, I will afterward I'm done coloring.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 15 février 2010 - 09:32 .