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[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

This was retconned later- Alistair ends up having to use lyrium in the comics to keep his templar powers.

I saw a screenshot that gave me the impression it's been retconned again; Cassandra has Templar powers and doesn't need lyrium.

 

Cassandra have dragon blood in her veins as alister(and he is a elf blooded, grey warden who have magic blood again)...so this is the answer how they can use their ability without lyrium...and let be clear that they by the lore does not use them much...look at the alister in comics or cassandra in anime

 

about dwarfs and kossith templars, by the lore  they cant exist because they do not have fade connection and lyrium will do nothing...everyone who is not see dreams and do not have mages cant do magic and cant unlock some magic powers with lyrium...kossith only have sairabas so their childrens can see dreams and become templar...so not a pure dwarfs who can see dreams can technicaly become tempalrs

Where is it established that Cassandra has dragon blood? Also you're flatly wrong that Kossith don't have a Fade connection, as evidenced by the mages you mentioned they have.

[Meltemph]

DG: I would say that they are magic, they derive from lyrium, which is magic. The tricky thing there is that the Chantry is awfully hypocritical when it comes to magic, in that there are sorts of magic that they will use. Actually I should take that back, it's not necessarily that they're hypocritical, they don't have anything against magic itself. Magic can be useful, they know the mages are useful. It's the elements of possession and blood magic, all the forbidden magic where things get really dicey. Even if Templar magic was recognized as spellcasting, it's not innate to the Templars, if they just stopped taking lyrium eventually they would lose the ability. Although as Alistair proves, they can use the ability for a long time afterwards. I think part of that was just the requirements of gameplay, for us to have a specialization as well, so some of that story doesn't quite match up with the gameplay, and I think eventually we'd like to work the lyrium requirement back into the gameplay as well. Regardless the magic the Templars use doesn't involve mind control, it's not forbidden magic, there's nothing about it--especially since it can only against mages--there's nothing about it that would make the Chantry step in and go "Wow, that's bad." But then we're talking about a Chantry that also has phylacteries in every Circle, which is a type of blood magic, so there's definitely an element of hypocrisy there.

 

Source: http://swooping-is-b...om/1286233.html

 

Not a "logical leap", a quote from the head writer :/

Well there you go then. I never seen that interview and nothing in game infers or in the books states this, but ya. That is too bad. They should probably explain how dwarves can be templars then.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Well there you go then. I never seen that interview and nothing in game infers or in the books states this, but ya. That is too bad. They should probably explain how dwarves can be templars then.

I think the spec description in Dragon Age II outright states this.

[herkles]

another gameplay and story segragation issue is that mages don't have to worry about getting addicted to lyrium as well.

[Meltemph]

I think the spec description in Dragon Age II outright states this.

Ya, you are right, been a long time since I've played a warrior in DA2. It talked about a carefully prepared lyrium that makes you able to resist magic and abilities. Hopefully this gets explained, since we know dwarves react with lyrium different and with their connection of the fade missing, makes you wonder.

[andy6915]

Both actually. He left the Templars as a result of the Mage-Templar war to join the Wardens. The Wardens accepted him, Reimas, and the rest of the Templars they were with as 'recruits' on the strength of their Templar training. But they were as much refugees as recruits.

 

So yeah, former Templar.

 

So dwarven Templars isn't just something you can do in gameplay, they have existed in the canon too.

[wcholcombe]

Yes there is a dwarf Templar in last flight. And dwarves are still affected by lyrics so that isn't an issue. Also, regarding the religious part, dwarves can worship amdradtw and such. I believe someone said Harding is a chantey believer.

[Spacemannegie]

If dwarves are more resistant to Lyrium does this mean that a dwarven templar must ingest more of the stuff than a human templar for it to have the same effect?

[Adhin]

Guys I wasn't speculating about companions not starting with specializations and it being a story beat. Mike literally says that in one of the twitch streams. It's from about 4 weeks ago, same one with the Knight Enchanter stuff. Just because shes a Seeker doesn't mean she's going to learn Templar abilities. She wasn't one prior to joining, and Leliana isn't getting templar skills anytime soon either.

 

Some story event leads the companions to get their specializations, which in turn leads to the player getting to pick their specialization training. It's all story driven for a change. And as far as im concerned thats a damn good thing. Way it was handled in DAO/DA2 just kinda felt tacked on and unimportant. Hell apparently companions banter and other little things in the game exist to comment on your choice of specialization too. Not like plot changing or constantly brought up but little nods here and there like you get with race choice.

[pengwin21]

Guys I wasn't speculating about companions not starting with specializations and it being a story beat. Mike literally says that in one of the twitch streams. It's from about 4 weeks ago, same one with the Knight Enchanter stuff. Just because shes a Seeker doesn't mean she's going to learn Templar abilities. She wasn't one prior to joining, and Leliana isn't getting templar skills anytime soon either.

 

Some story event leads the companions to get their specializations, which in turn leads to the player getting to pick their specialization training. It's all story driven for a change. And as far as im concerned thats a damn good thing. Way it was handled in DAO/DA2 just kinda felt tacked on and unimportant. Hell apparently companions banter and other little things in the game exist to comment on your choice of specialization too. Not like plot changing or constantly brought up but little nods here and there like you get with race choice.

 

Can you find me the time in the video where this is said? I recall him saying that the Inquisitor's specialization is unlocked by story, but not that companion specializations have some story event tied with them. 

[Adhin]

Yeah, it's in my post history ill give that a quick looksee and edit this post in a few minutes.

 

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Here we are, http://www.twitch.tv...are/b/577781873 - 45 minutes in Mike answers the question and states: "Companions all have their own specialization... it's not available at the beginning of the game, it's unlocked through an event later in the game...".

[pengwin21]

Hmm yeah he does say that...not sure if he just means 'hit level 7' though, that would be pretty lame(that would be an event technically...). If they had unique companion specialization quests or something you think they'd come out and say it.

[Adhin]

Yeah, they'd also just say it was from level. They've specifically stated specializations aren't level locked, it's story driven. But in that stream it sounds like its a singular event, not multiple events. So I'm guessing there is a semi-time lapse like event about getting extra training. I doubt there's an 'epic montage' but part of me kinda hopes there is now lol.

 

Anyway, while this bits speculation, I'm pretty confident its gonna be a singular story beat that unlocks all the companions specialization. Which in turn opens up to us picking which one we want. I know people like thinking all the companions are 100% what they are right off from the bat but I kinda think thats boring. If are main character gets to grow that way why can't they?

 

I like the idea of them deciding they need to go out of there way to gain an upper hand on the battlefield outside of what they where used to so go for extra training. Just kinda makes sense to me I guess.

 

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Ahh when I said the whole not level related that was in relation to the player. Not sure why companions would just be outside of that concept all together. None of the past games have worked that way. Hell, DAO broke it in the opposite direction. Everyone started with 1 specialization even if they where lvl 1.

 

But yeah, makes no sense to 'hide it' till they hit 7 when the player isn't lvl locked to get their specializations. I think that's just peoples view as a DA2 hold over.