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[Edvin]

Dragon Age: Origins was very good game.
But I always hated the fact that only human non-Mage can achieve the best end.
 

Minor changes in the dialogues, alternative completion of quests or race restriction for romances, this is all fine.
But hide the best ending for one race and one class, that's a bit much. ( It scares me the fact that human is a noble again. )

 

Can we expect similar unfair advantage in Dragon Age: Inqusition?

[Leo]

Pffft, how is being king/queen the "best ending"?

 

Doubt we have the option, as Cassandra is the closest person we have to royalty and we aren't going to Nevarra.

[Little Princess Peach]

Pffft, how is being king/queen the "best ending"?

 

Doubt we have the option, as Cassandra is the closest person we have to royalty and we aren't going to Nevarra.

we are not going YET

[DrBlingzle]

It makes absolute sense to me. I mean there's no way a non-human or mage would be the ruler of a human kingdom in DA, it would be completely lore-breaking.  

[Semyaza82]

Even if there is the possibility to become something like King/Queen it's not an 'unfair advantage' - it's part of the lore of DA. It would make no sense at all for a human nation to accept a dwarf ruler, even less so for a elf or qunari. Within in setting you can argue it's unfair that those races are discriminated against - but the fact that they are is part of that setting.

[Tamyn]

Doubt we have the option, as Cassandra is the closest person we have to royalty and we aren't going to Nevarra.

 

 

Josephine is a princess as well, or some sort of noble heiress. No princes this time though, unfortunately.

[Leo]

Josephine is a princess as well, or some sort of noble heiress. No princes this time though, unfortunately.

 

Eldest daughter of a Merchant Noble family, which of course means that she's not exactly in line to be a queen.

[Edvin]

It makes absolute sense to me. I mean there's no way a non-human or mage would be the ruler of a human kingdom in DA, it would be completely lore-breaking.  

I did not say it does not make sense. I'm just saying that I do not want to see:
" Congratulations Inquisitor, you saved the world and you are human non-mage so now you may be the new world emperor. "

[daveliam]

It seem like Cassandra is a distant relative of the Nevarran royal family, but not directly in the line of succession.  Josephine is Antivan nobility, but not royalty.

 

The one place where the OP concern could show up is with Celene.  Yes, she's not going to be interested in the human male non-mage Inquisitor from a romantic perspective, but given that he is a noble could lead the way for a high profile political marriage.  Of course, there's no evidence that this will be part of her plot in the game.

[BronzTrooper]

.......... I don't really see what the point of this thread is.  We're not going to be able to romance anyone of nobility from Orlais or Ferelden, so how would the Inquisitor be able to become a king/queen in the first place?  Maybe emperor/ess of Orlais, but I highly doubt that.  Why would BW allow the Inquisitor the option to marry Celene/Gaspard in the first place?

[Jurus]

 

Dragon Age: Origins was very good game.
But I always hated the fact that only human non-Mage can achieve the best end.

 

The Dwarven Warden becomes a living Paragon, which could make him more influential in Dwarven society than their actual king. And unlike the Human King you don't have to spend the rest of your life in a loveless marriage, abandoned by your unhardened LI.

 

Also becoming the King/Queen is only one of the options which can easily become unobtainable. Hardening Alistair, for example,  prevents you from ever becoming the King.

[Semyaza82]

I did not say it does not make sense. I'm just saying that I do not want to see:
" Congratulations Inquisitor, you saved the world and you are human non-mage so now you may be the new world emperor. "

Well we didn't  see anything like that in DA:O or DA2 so I don't think we will this time either. Becoming ruler was just one of the possible endings in DA:O, whether it's best or not is subjective. For some people going back to Orzammar as a dwarf commoner, with your nephew an heir to the throne and the Assembly considering you for Paragon-hood is the best. Others might prefer being the Dalish hero who finally got their people officially granted lands. Complaining that an elf can't be king seems a bit like complaining that a human can't be a paragon

[SpiritMuse]

I don't necessarily consider becoming king or queen the "best" ending. It all depends on what the particular character wants. My Warden was happy being Warden Commander and didn't much care for being Queen, so she got her best ending.

[herkles]

while the dwarf noble could not become king/queen of Fereldan. he or she should have had the opprotunity to become the ruler of Orzammar, their kingdom. I so wish that as a dwarf noble I could have become the queen of Orzammar, but no. 

 

Speaking of Cass, how far down the line of succession is she? because she could therotically become queen with the looming succession crisis in Nevarra on the horizon.

[helpthisguyplease]

 Let me explain something about ancestry everybody is related to everybody if we go lets say 1200 years in the past. There is powerful theory that most europeans are descended from Charles the Great lets go 200 years before that dude and all europeans are descended from another very prolific dude lets go 700 years back and all europeans and middles east and North Africa people are descended from another very prolific dude. So did you all got my point we are to few to not be related to someone from the past at least a couple thousand years.

 My point is just say you have royal origins nobody can deny that.

[daveliam]

Speaking of Cass, how far down the line of succession is she? because she could therotically become queen with the looming succession crisis in Nevarra on the horizon.

 

I don't know if that's been fleshed out at this point.  Markus is elderly and he has a younger brother, Ferdinand, who is also old.  Neither have children.  So at closest, Cassandra could be a niece or cousin.  I'd say that she's probably at least twenty years younger than them, though, so she's likely the next generation down.  I'm not sure if her past was ever expanded on during the anime.

[DracoAngel]

I don't think I would say that becoming king/queen was the best ending. But that's just my opinion, and I can see how it would be to another person

 

I will admit I was upset with the fact that only the human noble was the only one to marry Alistair if he became king. Any other Female Warden could become his mistress, but that always bugged me. I didn't like the fact of being some back-room mistress. I am very... greedy when it comes to my LI. Once I decide to become fully committed into a relationship I don't like to share. So my Warden didn't like the fact that in the end he would always end up back in his wife's bed in the morning and she bearing his heirs.

 

I always thought a hardened Alistair would marry the woman he loved, and damn the consequences (btw, I usually always play as a Fem! human mage).

Spoiler

Heck even Maric nearly put a elf on the throne before it was revealed why she had originally come to him. Had things turned out differently, Ferelden could have had a elf queen and Rowan end up with Loghain.

[robertthebard]

I got the best ending. My Dalish Warden died killing the Archdemon, and got a really cool funeral. Will they make Fade spirits king/queen?

[Semyaza82]

I always thought a hardened Alistair would marry the woman he loved, and damn the consequences 

It's actually only a hardened Alistair that will take a mistress, otherwise he breaks it off... and breaks our heart in the process It's possible I over invest in some of the romances

[Edvin]

I will admit I was upset with the fact that only the human noble was the only one to marry Alistair if he became king. Any other Female Warden could become his mistress, but that always bugged me. I didn't like the fact of being some back-room mistress. I am very... greedy when it comes to my LI. Once I decide to become fully committed into a relationship I don't like to share. So my Warden didn't like the fact that in the end he would always end up back in his wife's bed in the morning and she bearing his heirs.

 

I always thought a hardened Alistair would marry the woman he loved, and damn the consequences (btw, I usually always play as a Fem! human mage).

This is exactly what I mean. Alistair is goddamned king. He may marry whom he want!

[Jurus]

This is exactly what I mean. Alistair is goddamned king. He may marry whom he want!

 

Perhaps he didn't want to

[Muspade]

This is exactly what I mean. Alistair is goddamned king. He may marry whom he want!

Being King doesn't grant you the ability to give all the nobles the finger, as they are your vassals and you need to please your vassal's as much as you need to rule them and without them, you are nothing. 
 

So, no. You don't get to give the finger to everyone.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

It would be pretty stupid for a brand new king (who is more or less and unknown beforehand and hasn't had the opportunity to build relationships with his subjects) to do something as controversial as making a mage, elf, or dwarf the queen of Ferelden. That's just begging for another coup to happen.

[X Equestris]

This is exactly what I mean. Alistair is goddamned king. He may marry whom he want!

And then the nobility finds a new king.

[Edvin]

And then the nobility finds a new king.

In the middle of the war with darkspawns when the country needs to be united?

I do not think that nobility has months time to haggle over who will be the new king.
 

BTW: Anora is queen and she is not noble birth.
So "at least" human female mage should be able marry Alistair.