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Whatever the 'new citadel' is it's disc shaped and i'm certain those are vehicles flying over the top of it in the background.

 

The waterfall one they said was a 'new species' but the architecture evokes feelings of warmth and a peace loving people. My first thought was some sort of amphibian race tbh.

 

The hero one makes me think of birds nests the way the cliffs are designed.

 

The pyramind structures give the impression of something far more advanced and powerful than the Geth. New synthetics?



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Whatever the 'new citadel' is it's disc shaped and i'm certain those are vehicles flying over the top of it in the background.

The waterfall one they said was a 'new species' but the architecture evokes feelings of warmth and a peace loving people. My first thought was some sort of amphibian race tbh.

The hero one makes me think of birds nests the way the cliffs are designed.

The pyramind structures give the impression of something far more advanced and powerful than the Geth. New synthetics?

The first thing I thought was the geth megastructure Legion talked about. Maybe now that they're either destroyed or gone back to Rannoch, the place is unoccupied but still has power.

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The first thing I thought was the geth megastructure Legion talked about. Maybe now that they're either destroyed or gone back to Rannoch, the place is unoccupied but still has power.

 

Its a new species. Has nothing to do with the Geth. In fact, they referred to them a s "Tombs" i.e. dead things, not inactive.



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Its a new species. Has nothing to do with the Geth. In fact, they referred to them a s "Tombs" i.e. dead things, not inactive.

Yes, I know, I know. Everything will be shiny and new. But 'geth' was the first thing I thought of, in a totally not-joking sense.

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Based on the images, the level of technology in the ME4 universe seems somewhat, but not a lot, more advanced than what we've seen in the trilogy; so I'm guessing it takes place some time after the Reaper War - decades, a century or so later maybe, but not 1000 years later.

 

Since exploration is a focus, then either they're exploring all the relays that were off-limits before, or they're exploring another galaxy nearby (probably the Magellanic Clouds, but maybe Andromeda if they're feeling really ambitious and/or have no concept of intergalactic distances).  The latter case would be the simplest route if they want to keep the ME framework - what makes ME feel like ME - without having to deal with the actual post-war galaxy itself.  The former could work too, though; it would be interesting to find out how species that had no contact with the Citadel civilization responded to the invasion and post-war fallout, but that would require addressing the ME3 ending in some way.


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Based on the images, the level of technology in the ME4 universe seems somewhat, but not a lot, more advanced than what we've seen in the trilogy; so I'm guessing it takes place some time after the Reaper War - decades, a century or so later maybe, but not 1000 years later.

Since exploration is a focus, then either they're exploring all the relays that were off-limits before, or they're exploring another galaxy nearby (probably the Magellanic Clouds, but maybe Andromeda if they're feeling really ambitious and/or have no concept of intergalactic distances). The latter case would be the simplest route if they want to keep the ME framework - what makes ME feel like ME - without having to deal with the actual post-war galaxy itself. The former could work too, though; it would be interesting to find out how species that had no contact with the Citadel civilization responded to the invasion and post-war fallout, but that would require addressing the ME3 ending in some way.

I approve of this idea of creating a new relay network of previously unexplored relays. Whole new possibilities are opened up to us this way.

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It's conceivable that the Milky Way contains another entire galactic civilization existing parallel to but separate from the Citadel civilization, using some of the relays the Citadel civilization did not use and vice-versa, and having similar laws about not activating unknown relays.  I don't think it's likely, given the ultimate function of the Citadel itself, but it's conceivable.


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I read in one of the codex entries that less than 1 percent of planets have been explored.

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Andromeda fits in with the galaxy map we got revealed remember? Aboard the 'new normandy' it's a spiral galaxy and andromeda is the closest spiral to our own. It's also similarly shaped to the one we saw.


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I read in one of the codex entries that less than 1 percent of planets have been explored.


Less than 1% of the galaxy has been explored, yea, but the relay network doesn't cover the entire galaxy. Realistically, and based on information extrapolated from the codex, it probably only covers 2% of the galaxy at most. That still equates to billions of star systems accessible via direct relay link or FTL travel from a relay system. The relay network is massive, but it pales in comparison to how massive the galaxy itself is.

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Andromeda fits in with the galaxy map we got revealed remember? Aboard the 'new normandy' it's a spiral galaxy and andromeda is the closest spiral to our own. It's also similarly shaped to the one we saw.

That map looks almost exactly the same as the one in Bryson's lab.  With extra swirly colours.



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I suppose that's the beauty of concept art it could be anything. It does seem a lot more egg shaped from my perspective.



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That map looks almost exactly the same as the one in Bryson's lab. With extra swirly colours.


It doesn't look anything like the one in Bryson's lab - which is just a bigger version of the Normandy's galaxy map, anyways.

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Less than 1% of the galaxy has been explored, yea, but the relay network doesn't cover the entire galaxy. Realistically, and based on information extrapolated from the codex, it probably only covers 2% of the galaxy at most. That still equates to billions of star systems accessible via direct relay link or FTL travel from a relay system. The relay network is massive, but it pales in comparison to how massive the galaxy itself is.

I'm pretty sure the relay network effectively covers the entire galaxy; it would be foolish of the reapers not to have built it that way, assuming the Catalyst wasn't lying about their goals.  There should be a relay within reasonable FTL distance of pretty much any star system (of course "reasonable distance" would be different for a reaper).  Still, you're right that with only 1-2% of systems explored out of the ~300 billion star systems in the galaxy, that's a whole lot of space real estate that the Citadel races haven't seen.


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I'm pretty sure the relay network effectively covers the entire galaxy; it would be foolish of the reapers not to have built it that way, assuming the Catalyst wasn't lying about their goals. There should be a relay within reasonable FTL distance of pretty much any star system (of course "reasonable distance" would be different for a reaper). Still, you're right that with only 1-2% of systems explored out of the ~300 billion star systems in the galaxy, that's a whole lot of space real estate that the Citadel races haven't seen.


It doesn't cover the entire galaxy. This seems to be a common misconception, probably because star clusters included in the network can be found across the whole galaxy. Primary relays, which form the backbone of the network, are separated by an average of thousands of light years. This fact is illustrated at least twice in the series, the most notable time being that the Reapers had to cross roughly 6,000 light years to get to the nearest relay after the Alpha relay was destroyed. Another time would be the attempts to plot a course to Ilos without using the network. And the codex, as well as related media, describe the network as such too.

And, logically, this makes sense. The Milky Way galaxy has 200-400 billion stars in it. That number is unfathomable. A network that links every star system, either directly or indirectly, is unreasonable. Honestly, even the several billion stars of a relay network that covers only 1% of the galaxy seems unreasonable.

But, you raise a good point - why would the Reapers leave vast swaths of uncharted space outside of the network? Most likely, because inhabitable worlds are actually extraordinarily rare, and the network ONLY covers every star system that has the potential to form life over several billion years, and all nearby star systems containing resources, ensuring that the probability of any civilization forming outside of the network is astronomically low. This is never explained, of course, but it is a plausible hypothesis.

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I'm definitely getting Prothean vibes from the "Geth City" and "Space Battle" pics.  The Protheans were definitely into pyramids, so perhaps Javik was not the last after all.  Also, the spaceship type vessel could definitely be some rather large Prothean Dreadnaught, as the glowing from brings to mind the main gun of the Destiny Ascension.

 

Now I didn't see the reveal for these, so maybe they gave some additional details that I'm not aware of, but from these few images I'd guess at least part of ME4 will be uncovering more Prothean secrets in a similar vein to ME1.



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Noticed these images around the web and tuned into the N7 day talk as well over the weekend. My response to the teasing has been rather muted. Find that I'm trying to avoid getting teased into a speculation/head canoning trip in case of building too much positive expectations or negative cynicism when more details of the game itself becomes available.

 

I am swinging into a more positive frame of mind than I expected though; the talk of emphasis on exploration and in having new races etc brings to mind the magic I felt with the first 2 games. The MEU was a character that I felt more compelling than the Reapers, Shepard or any other crew members and I hope Bioware concentrate as much effort on making the World space itself have that sense of being HUGE.

 

Please no Inter-galactic options; In my mind that would require a Technological leap beyond the capability portrayed in the MEU previously. I would also prefer not to see an enemy as overpowered, speculative and vague as the Reapers appear in Mass Effect again. There are enough "mundane" threats in such a diverse setting that may fit the scenario of a singular hero character better


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Did all the Mass Relay's even explode or become heavily damaged at the end of Mass Effect 3? Remember there are two types of Relay's: primary and secondary. Primary relays can propel a ship thousands of light years but only link to one other relay. While secondary relays can link to any other relay over shorter distances, only a few hundred light years. I only seen about a dozen explosions at the end of the 3rd Mass Effect. Of course my EMS was somewhere between 3500 and 4000. I do not believe the Relay network covers all the galaxy, but only around 80%. And sense none of the secondary Relay's exploded it would take a number of extra hops to reach your destination. Which is probably why exploring is back because they had to open up new smaller paths.

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The relay's don't have to blow up anymore, do they? I think it was only the 'rings' that broke off.

 

Also I would not be too surprised if the reaper's had the entire galaxy mapped. They are billions of years old. They've certainly had the time. Older still are the Leviathan's.


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They blew up (or at least one did, presumably the Charon relay) before the EC, and just got damaged with the EC.

There are presumably thousands of relays. The galaxy map doesn't show them all and it never shows us all the ones we use when we travel around either. Having a link between Arcturus and Earth suggests that the Reapers prefer using relays for even short distances, although it's entirely reasonable that there will be relay-less areas of space with no inhabitable planets.

I'm sticking with the idea that the majority of the relays were still dormant and unaffected by the endings.

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They blew up (or at least one did, presumably the Charon relay) before the EC, and just got damaged with the EC.

There are presumably thousands of relays. The galaxy map doesn't show them all and it never shows us all the ones we use when we travel around either. Having a link between Arcturus and Earth suggests that the Reapers prefer using relays for even short distances, although it's entirely reasonable that there will be relay-less areas of space with no inhabitable planets.

I'm sticking with the idea that the majority of the relays were still dormant and unaffected by the endings.


If you do the math, even with an extremely conservative estimate of the relay network only covering 2% of the stars in the galaxy, that still equals millions of primary and secondary relays in the network. If the relay network DID cover every star in the galaxy (it doesn't), then on a very low estimate the network would contain on the low end of billions of primary and secondary relays.

People dont realize how massive the galaxy actually is, and how massive a network that covers even a tiny fraction of it is. It is colossal. Unfathomably huge.

And, I suspect that the Reapers do have the entire galaxy mapped, but the vast majority of star systems in the galaxy are uninhabitable. There is no reason to link to these, except for resources. It makes far more sense to only include ALL star systems that could give rise to life (probably around 1% of stars) in the network, as well as all nearby star systems for resources. That is a manageable, and still colossally huge number of stars (billions).

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I can just imagine the codex entry for the Reaper War in the new Mass Effect...

 

"In 2186, the short live Reaper War -- which lasted only a few months -- saw the near annihilation of every major space-flaring race known to the council at that time. As worlds continued to burn and fleets destroyed, it seemed as though all hope was lost. Until the first human specter helped unite the forces and make a last ditch attack over the human homeworld known as Earth. The battle begin in favor of organics; however, as the battle progressed it began to slowly turn in favor of the Reapers. During the height of the battle, the specter -- Commander Shepard -- used Project Crucible to send a pulse of energy that completely changed the outcome of the war. The war was not without drawbacks as the pulse caused the destruction of at least 1 dozen relays."... blah, blah, blah... that is all I could think off.


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First: people read way too much into these images.

Second: it only needs Mass Relays to be Mass Effect.

Third: shut up and take my money.

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First: people read way too much into these images.

Second: it only needs Mass Relays to be Mass Effect.

Third: shut up and take my money.


Pretty much this. I would say though that people aren't really reading too much into anything. For example, they straight up said that the one weird pyramid image was "tomb-like architecture of a new alien race". That confirms a new race, most likely the antagonists.

But I do agree, people need to stop bitching and moaning about what is or isn't mass effect. At its core, you only need a handful of things to make a game mass effect. I have said, and still say, abandon all else and create a new story. Move on.

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First: people read way too much into these images.

Second: it only needs Mass Relays to be Mass Effect.

Third: shut up and take my money.

 

Heck, it only even needs the technology based on whatever was reverse engineered from them.

 

Personally, I don't want the new game to really feel like the old games at all. I want the universe to be more dynamic than the previous games were. I want the settings and atmospheres to feel completely new.