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[3PointDecoupage]

So this war is supposed to be a big part of Inquisition. In previews I've read, they say you'll just be wandering around and come across Mages and Templars fighting each other. Is there anyone else who doesnt want to pick a side, or will it be possible to play the game as neutral or broker piece?

 

Honestly, I agree with both sides of the issue. Yes, the mages are basically prisoners just for being born that way, but on the other hand, they are dangerous, and even the "good guys" of the mage cause like Wynne and Orsino turned out to be abominations. 

My only worry is that if I don't side with mages, its going to ****** off Cole.

[The Warden's Shank]

I really wanted an neutral option in Dragon Age 2. My canon Hawke was a mage who despised the use of blood magic and dealings with demons. He also was sympathetic to the circle mages and valued his own freedom. There was no middle ground for those who seek a fairer resolution. There was proof that both sides had fair people who could reason with each other. I would like the inquisitor to at least be a fair and impartial mediator between the two.

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

No.  You'll have to pick a side.  

 

Honestly, I'm fine with this BECAUSE it's a really tough decision that I don't know what to do with.  There's no clearly 'good' or 'bad' option, there's no super-special ultra-diplomatic way out.  I love that.  

[Br3admax]

I'm kind of done watching mages and Templars destroy the world, thanks. 

[Helios969]

Yeah in DA2 I so badly wanted an option to hop onto Isabela's ship and sail away...final cutscene depicts abomination Orsino and batsh*t crazy Meredith killing one another.  I'm pretty sure you'll have to pick one side or the other in DAI though a Quarian/Geth type peace option would be my preference.

[Keroko]

As Meredith told us when she was still sane: "We don't have the luxury of doing nothing."

 

There is a breach out there that needs to be closed. And we're going to need a lot of magic or anti-magic to do so. We're also going to need the help of a lot of people who can't be kept busy fending of both mages and templars running amock on their lands.

 

Just because we don't want to get involved in their gang war doesn't mean they won't shoot at us.

[LOLandStuff]

Both groups need some serious asspaddling.

[Umbar]

As a human, Hawke's involvement in those affairs despite his/her wishes made some sense. I'm wondering how, say, a Dwarf will relate to the war with anything other than confusion and 'not my problem!'. I mean if you're coming into this struggle with no previous bias towards any one side, which side would you be naturally inclined to help? I would say neither and given the priorities of the Inquisition, I hope there's an option of 'Stop this stupid war and help me fight demons!' in the game.

[Keroko]

As a human, Hawke's involvement in those affairs despite his/her wishes made some sense. I'm wondering how, say, a Dwarf will relate to the war with anything other than confusion and 'not my problem!'. I mean if you're coming into this struggle with no previous bias towards any one side, which side would you be naturally inclined to help? I would say neither and given the priorities of the Inquisition, I hope there's an option of 'Stop this stupid war and help me fight demons!' in the game.

 

I doubt they're going for a peaceful 'don't have to pick a side' solution. That would make actually choosing a side the lesser options.

[LonewandererD]

If we could force peace between the Geth and Quarians we can get these children play nice. With extremists on both sides (Blood Mages and Red Templars) f***ing things up, reasonable people still willing to at least consider negotiations, the people in an uproar and an impending demonic invasion the two sides will choose to play ball or die. Elias Trevelyan will broker peace through the olive branch or the sword, there will be peace with you by his side or under his boot.

 

-D-

[LOLandStuff]

I think DG didn't quite enjoy the idea of peace between geth and quarians. So I'm not expecting it in DAI

[Helios969]

I doubt they're going for a peaceful 'don't have to pick a side' solution. That would make actually choosing a side the lesser options.

It could be implemented in such a way that peace is harder and both sides take heavier casualties so the end result would have all choices strategically equal.

[Keroko]

If we could force peace between the Geth and Quarians we can get these children play nice. With extremists on both sides (Blood Mages and Red Templars) f***ing things up, reasonable people still willing to at least consider negotiations, the people in an uproar and an impending demonic invasion the two sides will choose to play ball or die. Elias Trevelyan will broker peace through the olive branch or the sword, there will be peace with you by his side or under his boot.

 

-D-

 

The geth and quarians are a good example of a total peace choice being not much of a choice at all. Not getting peace between the two feels like the lesser choice when such an option is present, almost as if you've failed if the choice wasn't available.

[Tevinter Soldier]

It could be implemented in such a way that peace is harder and both sides take heavier casualties so the end result would have all choices strategically equal.

 

and what is peace? this is a war of ideology as much as it's about freedom/protection/self determination/safety.

 

and here's what it boils down to, in your "Ideal" peace who's in charge of mages? is it other mages or is it templars?

don't post your answer, just think about it weigh up the pros and cons what feels "right" and choose.

 

guess what? you just chose a side. because this is what this war is all about when you get right down to it.

it doesn't matter what flavour your choice is, the point is you've chosen. you have your side. what you really are asking is the other side concede. without getting your hands dirty.

[EmissaryofLies]

The Mage/Templar war is the star player of Dragon Age; I love everything about it.

 

Though I do hope that you are able to take a more neutral stance.

 

I know I won't.

[Helios969]

and what is peace? this is a war of ideology as much as it's about freedom/protection/self determination/safety.

and here's what it boils down to, in your "Idea" peace who's in charge of mages? is it other mages or is it templars?
don't post your answer, just think about it weigh up the pros and cons what feels "right" and choose.

guess what? you just chose a side. because this is what this war is all about when you get right down to it.
it doesn't matter what flavour your choice is, the point is you've chosen. you have your side. what you really are asking is the other side concede. without getting your hands dirty.

Then I should be able to choose to eradicate both sides since the real victims are the regular people of Thedas...the overwhelming majority who have nothing to do with either.

That's the choice I want...figure out a way to coexist or I'll wipe you both out.

[Tevinter Soldier]

Then I should be able to choose to eradicate both sides since the real victims are the regular people of Thedas...the overwhelming majority who have nothing to do with either.

That's the choice I want...figure out a way to coexist or I'll wipe you both out.

 

except from what we know you need at least one side to help you close the rifts, so attacking both basically dooms thedas.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

This is the equivalent of someone living during 1939-1945 asking :- "Does anyone else not want to get involved in this World War ?"

 

To which the best answer I can give is:- "I don't think any of us has any choice whatsoever when it comes to involvement. It is a big war and it will affect everyone, including our characters. We can try to ignore reality but we can never ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

[TheChris92]

The fact that we are, once again, seemingly forced to pick between either faction, which are both filled to the brim with saturday morning cartoon villains, doesn't sit right with me.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

The fact that we are, once again, seemingly forced to pick between either faction, which are both filled to the brim with saturday morning cartoon villains, doesn't sit right with me.

 

You always have to pick a side in a war, especially a large scale war. The Mage-Templar War spans throughout the nations with Circles of Magi in them. 

 

I recall very few, almost no instance of a large scale war that does not end by picking one particular side. 

 

It is the reality of war. It is a harsh reality but it is a reality nonetheless. 

[Tevinter Soldier]

The fact that we are, once again, seemingly forced to pick between either faction, which are both filled to the brim with saturday morning cartoon villains, doesn't sit right with me.

 

well at least you've been warned WELL in advance. 

[SerCambria358]

Im still hoping for the, "obliterate both for the good of Thedas" option

[fizzypop]

Not really, but I know no matter what we are going to get dragged into it and since I generally play mage heroes it comes up. I mean in DA2 you couldn't even be a mage hero without someone asking you your opinion on the whole matter. The NPCs would be all "mages are evil!" I'd be all "um dudes I'm standing RIGHT HERE" makes a girl want to roast them.

[EmissaryofLies]

Mages are weapons, they aren't like you and me!