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[bEVEsthda]

Vanilla Skyrim having good voice acting and / or combat? Seriously?

 

Skyrim has role playing freedom. And a lot of it. People critical of Skyrim or jealous of Skyrim's success never seem to quite get that.

[Estel78]

Skyrim has role playing freedom. And a lot of it. 

 

Not in dialogs.

[agonis]

It´s not fair to compare different games.

 

They all have their strenghts and weaknesses and often it´s a matter of personal taste.

 

You may like pizza and cheeseburger, but you shouldn`t compare a pizza to a cheeseburger and expect it to taste the same.

[bEVEsthda]

Not in dialogs.

 

<Shrug>  Hard to understand what you think is relevant with this comment. Since Skyrim has greater role playing freedom in dialogues than just about everything, except maybe Morrowind. 

[Avejajed]

I like both games for different reasons. I don't know why people think you can't like one if you like the other.

[FumikoM]

Maybe someone stole his sweetroll...

 

And he took an arrow, to the head.

Didn't know you're Swedish. I know I've seen a Fumiko around Swedish spaces, such as "the monkey group." Is that you? ^^

Yes, that's me :3

Also agreed on Gamereactor, they cry oppression of men as soon as one mention female to male ratio (protagonists) in triple A games.

[Exaltation]

http://www.gamecriti...for-the-kingdom 

[Eledran]

Skyrim has role playing freedom. And a lot of it. People critical of Skyrim or jealous of Skyrim's success never seem to quite get that.

Ok, I agree. I'm still playing Skyrim right now in fact.

 

But what does that have to do with the quality of voice-acting or the combat? Nothing, because both sucked balls (in an unmodded game).

Especially for the voice-acting it's had to argue otherwise imo, as the same voices are re-used ad infinitum.

 

That doesn't make it a bad game, but if someone praises the voice-acting of Skyrim over a Dragon Age title (at least the previous ones), they wholly deserve to be ridiculed imo.

[Al Foley]

no one is jealous of Skyrim the game certainly has many awesome things going for it (the big open world)

but the story is just non existent and the characters dull and voiced horribly

With the exception of that Werewolf companion gal...

[bEVEsthda]

Ok, I agree. I'm still playing Skyrim right now in fact.

 

But what does that have to do with the quality of voice-acting or the combat? Nothing, because both sucked balls (in an unmodded game).

Especially for the voice-acting it's had to argue otherwise imo, as the same voices are re-used ad infinitum.

 

That doesn't make it a bad game, but if someone praises the voice-acting of Skyrim over a Dragon Age title (at least the previous ones), they wholly deserve to be ridiculed imo.

 

But I was not aware that someone did praise Skyrim voice-acting over a Dragon Age title. I don't think anyone did.

The reviewer happened to have been positive about Skyrim. That's all. The implied question is not the one you're asking. The question is the reverse - what has the quality of voice-acting or combat to do with that Skyrim is a great RPG?

[Elhanan]

Ok, I agree. I'm still playing Skyrim right now in fact.
 
But what does that have to do with the quality of voice-acting or the combat? Nothing, because both sucked balls (in an unmodded game).
Especially for the voice-acting it's had to argue otherwise imo, as the same voices are re-used ad infinitum.
 
That doesn't make it a bad game, but if someone praises the voice-acting of Skyrim over a Dragon Age title (at least the previous ones), they wholly deserve to be ridiculed imo.

Skyrim used 70+ VA's for Every. Single. Character. This is supposedly far greater than any previous TES game, and includes wondermous work from Christopher Plummer, Max Von Sydow, etc. Paarth was one of the best voiced characters I have heard outside of Bioware products.

And Skyrim supported those mods....

As for the topic, use a lot of salt when gleaning info from these critics; many do not appear to have an informed opinion on various matters.

[Rolhir]

Rather than create a new thread, I figured I'd ask here: is there any video review where the reviewer is actually competent at the game?

 

It seems every reviewer says that the game has a pretty good difficulty and then I watch them rarely ever pause and manage the entire team (they usually do it just to show off the feature, not because it's too hard otherwise), they waste healing potions left and right (one guy had Solas use a healing potion...at full hp...), and they seem to love running around auto attacking while at near full mana/stamina and having most if not all their abilities off cooldown. I haven't touched the game yet and I'm frequently wanting to yell to the reviewer like "Don't stand in the aoe! Use healing! Use barrier on more than just the mage who isn't getting attacked! Don't use healing when you're at 80% hp!" etc.

 

I don't understand how the reviews, written and video, claim that the combat is more tactical and thought out like DAO and not like the actiony DAII and then they do the above....From what I've read/seen, there's not an ounce of tactics required on normal and even on hard, pausing only BEGINS to be necessary.

 

All that to say, I'm very concerned about the difficulty if played as a game where you micromanage the party as NO ONE has needed to do it in the videos. So does anyone know of a review where the reviewer actually plays the game intelligently rather than running around stabbing the nearest enemy?

[LiquidLyrium]

I've been reading some reviews and I've made a fun drinking game to go along with them! It works for videos and written reviews!

 

 

1. "What’s with all French people?"
2. Says something negative about DA2
3. (Two shots) “Tactical Camera”
4. Completely forgets to mention the Keep/Does not grasp the fact that save game files are completely gone no matter what platform you play on
5. Disagrees with a previous review you read/watched on what should be an objective fact of gameplay.
6. Invokes Skyrim
7. (chug) Completely unaware of what romances are available to whom/inaccurate romance information. 
8. (entire bottle to drown your despair) Spoiler with no warning.
9. Get someone to take you to the hospital

 

(I included 4 and 7 because that is information that has been out for ages and really shouldn't be that hard to fact-check for a professional review.)

[Elhanan]

Rather than create a new thread, I figured I'd ask here: is there any video review where the reviewer is actually competent at the game?
 
It seems every reviewer says that the game has a pretty good difficulty and then I watch them rarely ever pause and manage the entire team (they usually do it just to show off the feature, not because it's too hard otherwise), they waste healing potions left and right (one guy had Solas use a healing potion...at full hp...), and they seem to love running around auto attacking while at near full mana/stamina and having most if not all their abilities off cooldown. I haven't touched the game yet and I'm frequently wanting to yell to the reviewer like "Don't stand in the aoe! Use healing! Use barrier on more than just the mage who isn't getting attacked! Don't use healing when you're at 80% hp!" etc.
 
I don't understand how the reviews, written and video, claim that the combat is more tactical and thought out like DAO and not like the actiony DAII and then they do the above....From what I've read/seen, there's not an ounce of tactics required on normal and even on hard, pausing only BEGINS to be necessary.
 
All that to say, I'm very concerned about the difficulty if played as a game where you micromanage the party as NO ONE has needed to do it in the videos. So does anyone know of a review where the reviewer actually plays the game intelligently rather than running around stabbing the nearest enemy?

Gopher plans a LP at some point; see his most current vids as a sampler of what to expect. Personally, I contend he is the most entertaining and mature reviewer I have seen.

While I do not care for many others, to be fair, many have stated they were playing on a lesser Difficulty to get into the game at a faster pace. Tac-Cam is also not typically best for Streaming and LP's either, except for the major encounters.

[aries1001]

Rather than create a new thread, I figured I'd ask here: is there any video review where the reviewer is actually competent at the game?

 

It seems every reviewer says that the game has a pretty good difficulty and then I watch them rarely ever pause and manage the entire team (they usually do it just to show off the feature, not because it's too hard otherwise), they waste healing potions left and right (one guy had Solas use a healing potion...at full hp...), and they seem to love running around auto attacking while at near full mana/stamina and having most if not all their abilities off cooldown. I haven't touched the game yet and I'm frequently wanting to yell to the reviewer like "Don't stand in the aoe! Use healing! Use barrier on more than just the mage who isn't getting attacked! Don't use healing when you're at 80% hp!" etc.

 

I don't understand how the reviews, written and video, claim that the combat is more tactical and thought out like DAO and not like the actiony DAII and then they do the above....From what I've read/seen, there's not an ounce of tactics required on normal and even on hard, pausing only BEGINS to be necessary.

 

All that to say, I'm very concerned about the difficulty if played as a game where you micromanage the party as NO ONE has needed to do it in the videos. So does anyone know of a review where the reviewer actually plays the game intelligently rather than running around stabbing the nearest enemy?

 

Yes. There are. Unfortunately, as always there in German. Please read (use google translate if you have to) the 4 page well written review from the German gamestar.de  - also the review from gameswelt.de seems to be competetly written as does the review from eurogamer.net (this review is in english).

The review from the english newspaper telegraph.co.uk is also very well written and competent, although I don't agree with all what they're saying about the game. The review in Swedish also seem to be competent...although the reviewer might have misunderstood a few things about the game.  

[FaWa]

All these critics giving the game lower than expected scores probably means good things when it comes down to actual quality. 

Remember how well received DA2 was? 

[Xeper84]

it seems all critics are mostly positive but some bad stuff i could find: (gamestar.de):

 

-short and not that good main story, that needs at max 35 hours (with some side missions) to play through (not 50^^)

-boring companions only one is interesting

-bad pc controls

-even on higher difficulties, tactical gameplay is only needed against the dragons ( so the tactical view is obsolete)

-not that good technical performance (i7(newer generation) and 4gb vram needed for a good performance at highest level)

Gamestar:85% 

[Wulfram]

35 hours isn't exactly a short main story

[Eledran]

But I was not aware that someone did praise Skyrim voice-acting over a Dragon Age title. I don't think anyone did.

The reviewer happened to have been positive about Skyrim. That's all. The implied question is not the one you're asking. The question is the reverse - what has the quality of voice-acting or combat to do with that Skyrim is a great RPG?

 

The poster whom I was replying to noted that this was the Swedish reviewer's point of view. Or that was how I understood it anyhow.

 

I disagree, Skyrim is a great game but voiceovers and combat were not its strongest points. Voices were much improved over Oblivion yes, but still not impressive imho. Perhaps I'm too spoiled by other games in that regard.

[Flog the Undying]

They think even 35 hours is SHORT for a game these days?

 

Jesus, you really can't win with some people!

[Morroian]

no one is jealous of Skyrim the game certainly has many awesome things going for it (the big open world)

but the story is just non existent and the characters dull and voiced horribly and saying otherwise is just being a crazy fanboy

 

The story isn't non existant. And people criticising the combat, I love the combat because its so free form, I remember great dragon battles across miles.

[Battlebloodmage]

Wow, the critics are brutal with this game. I hope it's better than what the critics said.

[Xeper84]

well 35 hours when they promised at least 50?

Also in those 35 hours is your walking around in a large world between main quests and they haven't rushed it. 

But there are around 100 hours of side quests sadly many of them are stuff like "get flower x for potion y" (typical open world quests)

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

35 hours isn't exactly a short main story

Not short but not long either. 35 hours = 1 weekend. But then again quality over quantity.