The story isn't non existant. And people criticising the combat, I love the combat because its so free form, I remember great dragon battles across miles.
The story is there... Its just pretty flat and unengaging. There's great opportunity to roleplay as you wander the world, but the actual provided narrative is distinctly unimpressive.
Not short but not long either. 35 hours = 1 weekend. But then again quality over quantity.
Well, that's main story only for the most part though. I doubt it would take that long to get through DAO if you just went pure critical path.
Well, that's main story only for the most part though. I doubt it would take that long to get through DAO if you just went pure critical path.
Takes me 45 hours to go through 98% of DAO without skipping dialogs (on normal).
The story is there... Its just pretty flat and unengaging. There's great opportunity to roleplay as you wander the world, but the actual provided narrative is distinctly unimpressive.
Talking about Origins or Inquisition?
well 35 hours when they promised at least 50?
Also in those 35 hours is your walking around in a large world between main quests and they haven't rushed it.
But there are around 100 hours of side quests sadly many of them are stuff like "get flower x for potion y" (typical open world quests)
At the same time I am hearing a lot of these reviews are playing on normal or switching to "easy"/casual because they were running out of time. Yes, they rushed it to get a review out which is something you shouldn't be doing in/for a review.
Gamespot and a lot of other critics claim that the story is much longer than the 35 hrs you claim and they even said thats with them rushing it so yea we don't know yet as there are conflicting reports.
But since its BSN why not go with the worst sounding one and claim that as fact eh :-)
Talking about Origins or Inquisition?
Skyrim
In short don't RUSH IT! You are missing out on a lot. Also I keep hearing that a lot of these reviewers have a ton of things left to do and that they hardly even touched anything outside of the main story. (This also doesn't consider the possible dlcs in the future)
Takes me 45 hours to go through 98% of DAO without skipping dialogs (on normal).
Honestly, I don't know, I've never been able to do a pure critical path run of DAO 
Too much completionist in me.
Granted, it does sound like parts of the story are gated until you've done enough side activities to acquire the necessary Power/Influence. That may artificially lengthen the playtime of the critical path.
Talking about Origins or Inquisition?
They were talking about TES5: Skyrim.
Has anyone actually played DA:O? Epic? Definitely. Dark? Eh...no, and the metal music in the trailers combined with the blood splatters doesn't make a game dark. I recall the development time being a little too long for what we got - the origins stories felt like they were put in as an afterthought and the engine/graphics were a bit on the obsolete side compared to what was out at the time.
Don't get me wrong - I loved DA:O - it was a fantastic game and I've put lots of hours into it. The lore is great and the story is very good. But it's by no means a dark, gritty fantasy tale. I will admit it had some darker elements (broodmother, city elf origin, possession) but I think the "dark, gritty" thing was a product of marketing.
I can understand if some gamers do not want to evolve along with the company. That's understandable. But reviewing a game and giving it a certain score because it doesn't have elements from a game that came out in 2009, or 2001, or 1998...seems unfair. I'd rather see less number scoring systems and more general write ups and takeaways.
Merely summed up what the reviewers of that particular magazine thought.
I would not suggest that it is a matter of individual players refusing to "evolve" - which, to me, infers some manner of hostile attitude towards "progress" - than them disagreeing with certain directions BW takes. The reviewers in question do go ahead and state that they may not be too happy about that, but acknowledge that that's the direction BW decided to pursue, and they do not explicitly deduct points based on that.
They think even 35 hours is SHORT for a game these days?
Jesus, you really can't win with some people!
Even so, the main-plot's actual length, which is supposed to be the 'meat' of the game does put some claims about the game's length made by the developers these recent months in perspective.
they played it for around 100 hours. It was about the main story not the game as a whole.
I think it is short and as far as i know they played on "higher difficulties".
They at least should if they critizie it beeing easy on higher difficulties and that even on those the tactical view is not needed...
But with many side quests beeing kill "x monsters of type D." it really is not sounding impressive.
Let's say 35 hours for a slow play of the main questline and 25 hours for interesting sidequests...but how much of it will be walking around?
This is interesting because the author sounds a lot like me with regard to what's important in his gaming. That's unfortunate, then, that he walked away cold. I've heard enough good things about what comes later not to worry much, but I generally do agree with him that the prologue was too abrupt in nature. And I also agree with him that this is probably what players want, so alas.
Granted, it does sound like parts of the story are gated until you've done enough side activities to acquire the necessary Power/Influence. That may artificially lengthen the playtime of the critical path.
Which kills this game as a 'fun thing' for those 'fascinating' people who do speed-runs, running and glitching through the game...
I watched a Skyrim speedrun lasting 50 minutes - talk about premature exposition...
Which kills this game as a 'fun thing' for those 'fascinating' people who do speed-runs, running and glitching through the game...
I watched a Skyrim speedrun lasting 50 minutes - talk about premature exposition...
Can we agree that rpgs are typically not something to be "speed run" through?
This is interesting because the author sounds a lot like me with regard to what's important in his gaming. That's unfortunate, then, that he walked away cold. I've heard enough good things about what comes later not to worry much, but I generally do agree with him that the prologue was too abrupt in nature. And I also agree with him that this is probably what players want, so alas.
Can you really take something that was limited on time seriously though? He didn't have much freedom in terms of time. Plus it doesn't sound like he is invested in this universe as those who are on here are.
they played it for around 100 hours. It was about the main story not the game as a whole.
I think it is short and as far as i know they played on "higher difficulties".
They at least should if they critizie it beeing easy on higher difficulties and that even on those the tactical view is not needed...
But with many side quests beeing kill "x monsters of type D." it really is not sounding impressive.
Let's say 35 hours for a slow play of the main questline and 25 hours for interesting sidequests...but how much of it will be walking around?
And there have been other reviewers who've rushed it and still took way longer than 35 hrs for the main story, thing is you're assuming stuff ( probably enjoying it as well since being negative is what's up here on BSN ) we won't know how long it really takes unless we play it ourselves since there are many reviews that in fact contradict this guy's claim.
And there have been other reviewers who've rushed it and still took way longer than 35 hrs for the main story, thing is you're assuming stuff ( probably enjoying it as well since being negative is what's up here on BSN ) we won't know how long it really takes unless we play it ourselves since there are many reviews that in fact contradict this guy's claim.
Quite a few contradictions out there indeed. I'm personally anxiously awaiting the reviews by people whom I know to take the time with these kinds of games, like The Escapist or AngryJoe (though he'll probably only have a review after release).
Too many of these guys are playing the game on easy / normal for my liking. It's a bit unsettling how few of them took the time to challenge themselves with the tactical cam.
Which kills this game as a 'fun thing' for those 'fascinating' people who do speed-runs, running and glitching through the game...
I watched a Skyrim speedrun lasting 50 minutes - talk about premature exposition...
Wow... I can see how this kind of design would frustrate reviewers less inclined to do sidequests.
I don't understand how anyone can think 35 hours, rushing through the game, is "short"
Like... that's more than I can even usually stand nowadays.
Quite a few contradictions out there indeed. I'm personally anxiously awaiting the reviews by people whom I know to take the time with these kinds of games, like The Escapist or AngryJoe (though he'll probably only have a review after release).
Too many of these guys are playing the game on easy / normal for my liking. It's a bit unsettling how few of them took the time to challenge themselves with the tactical cam.
Angry Joe did confirm he won't be rushing through this one and said to expect a very late review.
Not to mention ME1 (one of my all time favorite games) can be completed (by myself) in about 11 hours if I only do main mission. Conversely I can easily spend 40+ hours in ME1 if I want.
Bioware games are about the GD MF'N BA MFAwesome characters.
Can we agree that rpgs are typically not something to be "speed run" through?
Can you really take something that was limited on time seriously though? He didn't have much freedom in terms of time. Plus it doesn't sound like he is invested in this universe as those who are on here are.
I take it mildly seriously. He had an opinion and he expressed it, that's all. It's a shame he accidentally rushed forward into the Hinterlands, though.
Quite a few contradictions out there indeed. I'm personally anxiously awaiting the reviews by people whom I know to take the time with these kinds of games, like The Escapist or AngryJoe (though he'll probably only have a review after release).
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