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#76
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For this sort of game I'm not too interested in observing any kind of review. Based on what I've seen up until now, will be the dominate factor in deciding where the game falls under score-wise. Based on my opinion:

 

Origins=9.0/10

DA2=5.5 - 6.0/10

DAI=7.5 - 8.0/10

 

DAI will most likely be better than DA2, but not good enough to surpass Origins. 



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Yea why would anyone take Metacritic seriously? this game will probably get a lot of 1s and 0s there because the Qunari don't have long hair available that place is full of idiots.

 

TBH if you need a reviewer to make your mind up about whether or not to buy this game perhaps you should just watch walkthroughs on youtube.

i usually ignore this kid of reviews. They said Dragon Age 2 was mediocre. Which isn't true, the game was good, but not on the league of Origins.


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Well, i'm pretty sure there must be reviews around by now. Iwill try to search for them.But i don't expect anything lower than 7.0/10.0This games is promissing way to much to be a failure.

 

The first post in this thread says there's an embargo until 3AM EST tomorrow morning.

 

There are literally no reviews, anywhere.



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Angry Joe might have a schtick but in terms of BioWare games our opinions line up completely. He loved ME2, loved ME3 up until the ending, loved Origins, thought DA2 was just okay-borderline-good.


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The first post in this thread says there's an embargo until 3AM EST tomorrow morning.

 

There are literally no reviews, anywhere

Let's hope they are good right! xD Make your bets! I'm too damn hyped for this game.



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I'd guess the professional reviews will be mixed, favoring positive and assuring people that it's an improvement on DA2/ME3. I find numerical values useless in a review context so I have no idea what it would average out to. Realistically it should probably be around a 6-7 unless its gods gift to games, but since numbers tend to be inflated, maybe a 7-8?

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I'd guess the professional reviews will be mixed, favoring positive and assuring people that it's an improvement on DA2/ME3. I find numerical values useless in a review context so I have no idea what it would average out to. Realistically it should probably be around a 6-7 unless its gods gift to games, but since numbers tend to be inflated, maybe a 7-8?

 

uhhhhh

 

more like 9

 

just wait and see :)


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I'd guess the professional reviews will be mixed, favoring positive and assuring people that it's an improvement on DA2/ME3. I find numerical values useless in a review context so I have no idea what it would average out to. Realistically it should probably be around a 6-7 unless its gods gift to games, but since numbers tend to be inflated, maybe a 7-8?


Consider that ME3 got 93/100 at metacritic

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This thread sure has a lot of people who think they know how critique and reviews should be viewed.  <_<

 

Well, everything has its reasons. There is a great difference in terms of how wide the eco-system - which is bundled together in the viewpoint from which the game is judged - is. That's just one thing. Another is that most professional reviewers are to some degree corrupt. I mean, they really are.

And that, we have to blame on the game publishers. They have been a driving force behind this. For those who don't understand what I'm talking about, I recommend totalbisquit's and boogie2988's (aka Francis) very revealing and honest comments on the matter.

boogie2988's I have a link to:

 

Edit: Actually, I made a mistake, it's not the video I was thinking of, but it'll have to do since i can't find the other.

 

...And then there's Angry Joe. He may be ridiculed and frozen out at game award events, but I suspect that is for a reason. He's not one of them. In any way, his views have always resonated with mine, and even more - I understand him.

 

Now going back to user vs  reviewer scores, I'd argue that the difference is understandable, well founded and valid.

I can just go back to myself. I do not agree with that DA2 is an objectively bad game. An argument some have made some times on Bioware's forum. I've always argued against that view. But I do hate DA2. But it's well made for what it is. But I loathe it. It took a kind of game I liked a lot, and twisted it into a direction of videogames I'd like to see to die and go away completely. It suddenly became everything that's going wrong with video games. However well made they may be. And I think the user scores reflect my loathing. And in that context it deserves its low user scores. The professional reviewer otoh, believes the review should be 'fair'. And I suspect that with the various perks in mind, that fairness tends to be extra 'fair'. As long as the reviewer can 'objectively' convince himself it's warranted.

 

If DA2 had been the 'first' game, popping up in a vacuum, the reviewer score of 82 could maybe be close to reasonable.

Since DA2 is in fact the sequel to DA:O, the user score of 4.3 is totally valid.

That, is IMO, how the scores should be taken.


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Consider that ME3 got 93/100 at metacritic


Lmfao, really? Okay then. 9 it is. I haven't paid attention to this stuff before so I didn't realize it was that inflated in games.

All the more reason to ignore the numbers :lol:

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It got a 93 from me, too!

 

...okay, last time I'll post defending ME3 in the thread, I promise. It's just something of a nervous twitch. Fourth favorite game!


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.... 
If DA2 had been the 'first' game, popping up in a vacuum, the reviewer score of 82 could maybe be close to reasonable.
Since DA2 is in fact the sequel to DA:O, the user score of 4.3 is totally valid.
That, is IMO, how the scores should be taken.


Except of course, one does not have to be a User/ Player to vote, scores appear on the same day of release that defy credibility, and the equation for a final score is skewed. Pass.
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It got a 93 from me, too!

 

...okay, last time I'll post defending ME3 in the thread, I promise. It's just something of a nervous twitch. Fourth favorite game!

Its ok you are not alone, though I think I would have given it like a 91 or 89. :P


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I love ME3 and would probably give it a high score, but a game that is so polarizing/has so many glaring flaws should not score a 93 on an average of all reviews. ;)
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I'm going to have a 95 experience while the bio-haters (much like the Skyrim haters who can't let go)

can do what they do best. Be miserable.

 

DA:I could take the worst from DA:2 and ME 3 and it would still be better than most the games on the market.

 

I've been replaying the same games for years now and going by what I've seen, they can't mess this up for me.

It is overdue in my book (though I'm glad they took longer to create it).

The characters, story base and music is enough to make me happy as I wander the world killing "stuff" (trying not to die).

 

That's rather fangirly, but so be it

 

P.S. I don't know what's worse: Metacritic user scores or Steam reviews. They're about equally inaccurate and uneducated.


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Oh I plan to try as hard as I can to get every last drop of enjoyment out of the game, for sure, but I do value reviews/criticism in that I enjoy reading thoughtful commentary, whether it be negative or positive. It's just one persons experience, so its helpful when people (reviewers and readers) can keep that in perspective.
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I like reading reviews. The lack of research, copy-editing, content editing, and general competence are always good for a laugh.


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Oh I plan to try as hard as I can to get every last drop of enjoyment out of the game, for sure, but I do value reviews/criticism in that I enjoy reading thoughtful commentary, whether it be negative or positive. It's just one persons experience, so its helpful when people (reviewers and readers) can keep that in perspective.

 

I can see why people like reviews. It's just that I worked in a lateral business of news and reviews and dabbled in game reviews. I can say that at least 50 percent of the content was for the pageviews and of no substance. And probably 30 percent or more was too biased one way or another. Further, at the end of the day they mean little for the individual -- PR is another matter-- (one will enjoy the game or not to variable degree) unless s/he is on the fence about a game. It's a sad system for consumers, in my opinion. Daily on Steam people write "Should I buy this game?" apparently not knowing where to go for solid advice, if there is such a thing for something so subjective. 9/10 times it seems Youtube is the way to go -- the LPs and such, not the internet personalities.


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For BioWare games now at least, I think I distrust user reviews more than professional ones. There may be intentional or unintentional score-padding in professional reviewing, but there is a general ethos to review the game for what it is. Ever since DA2, people who have posted reviews of BioWare games have been a little... hyperbolic. To put it kindly. For one, people are more likely to post a reviews if they're angry. For another, there are basically 4 scores in the average fan reviewer repertoire: 10, 9, 8, and 1. 1 stands in for any degree of "I didn't like it," and depresses scores artificially. Which is silly because 1 should mean a game is totally broken and nigh unplayable. And with BioWare games now, a ton of these angry reviews show up before someone could possibly have played the game, just because BioWare "betrayed" them in the past. There will be a subset of reviews for DA:I that are actually reviews of DA2 and ME3 and EA.

And because of all that, for me personally, fan review aggregate scores came nowhere close to expressing my personal opinions on ME3 and DA2. How could they when they were just an outlet for a circle jerk of fan rage, instead of honest attempts at review? And as I expect that trend to continue Day 1 for DA:I... well, let's just say that those user review aggregates will not influence my purchasing of the game.


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9.2 metacritic score..

This game will be on par or better than Origin s , nuff said

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For this sort of game I'm not too interested in observing any kind of review. Based on what I've seen up until now, will be the dominate factor in deciding where the game falls under score-wise. Based on my opinion:

 

Origins=9.0/10

DA2=5.5 - 6.0/10

DAI=7.5 - 8.0/10

 

DAI will most likely be better than DA2, but not good enough to surpass Origins. 

So far from what I've seen.

 

Visuals - DAI > DAO

Sound - DAI > DAO

Combat - DAI > DAO

Characters - DAI > DAO

World content - DAI > DAO

RPG aspects - DAI < DAO

Action aspects - DAI > DAO

Story ???

 

I know its 2014 and visuals of course are going to be better, but if you look at them at their times of release, DAO looked bland and well behind other games at that time. DAI looks beautiful, its in the lead group of games for graphics, if not the best of 2014.

The Music in DAI is just epic, like DAO only more EPIC! Canon now has a voice (x4 options)

Combat looks great, Tactical and 3rd person available, seamless transitions between characters.

9 Characters keeping me awake at night debating my party choices.

RPG elements is a tough one, DAI has less options especially in combat, but more options in crafting and character building the DAO.

The story? well if prologue is anything to go by, it gives the same epic feel as DAO, only with improved visuals and music theme that puts it on another level.

 

I am predicting DAI will surpass DAO overall.


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You will try to defeat nostalgia. You always try. It matters not.
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You will try to defeat nostalgia. You always try. It matters not.

Cassandra and Leliana will form the Inquisition and together we will defeat nostalgia and close the memory fade.



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for me
dao 4/10
DA2 6/10 would have been an 8 were it not rushed
da:I is looking like a 7
me1 9/10
me2 8/10
me3 9/10

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I love ME3 and would probably give it a high score, but a game that is so polarizing/has so many glaring flaws should not score a 93 on an average of all reviews. ;)

 

Videogame Reviews basically seem to work according to an American high school grading system, where anything lower than a 7(0) means its sucks.