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[TheClonesLegacy]

You'd like Champions Online then.

[Puzzlewell]

As someone who plays WoW I feel I should comment on this..

Turtles. Turtles turtles turtles.

 

Likewise as a fellow WoW player, I shall reply with...

 

Snails, snails snails SNAILS

[Isichar]

Likewise as a fellow WoW player, I shall reply with...

 

Snails, snails snails SNAILS

 

No! Anything but the snails!

I'll even take listening to Rhonins speech for the billionth time before having to deal with tha-COLD LOGIC DEEMED OUR WORLD NOT WORTH SAVING

[The Love Runner]

You should have asked them if they wanted to see what Ewok Husks look like. Lol.

[Puzzlewell]

Isi: I know exactly what you me-CITIZENS OF DALARAN, LOOK TO THE SKY AND OBSERVE

 

 

 

COLDLOGICCOLDLOGICCOLDLOGIC

[Voxr]

Meh. I played SWOTR for a bit got bored after I hit max level. End game was.......well it was what it was. I still play WoW and can't wait for WoD. But I don't get caught up in the "Which is better" arguments. 

[Isichar]

OUR LIVES... OUR LIVES OUR WORTH LIVING!

 

(2 seconds later)

 

CITIZENS OF DALARAN! RAISE YOUR EYES...

[Seraphim24]

It's even more ironic hen he's literally supposed to be dead.

 

Our lives are worth living!

 

*Gets owned by mana bomb*

 

Raise your eyes to the sky and observe!

[Puzzlewell]

Obligatory Ulduar is the best raid Blizz has done.

Now to actually be on topic, I played TOR for a bit a few years back. The agent story was pretty much the high point for me and yeah people complained about WoW. To each their own though cause I got back into WoW this year after quitting a ways into BC, and quite honestly I love the game more now than I personally did way back when. WoD's releasing soon and wheee. Mean while TOR just kind of hangs out since I can't really find the motivation to play it since I don't have a sub and their F2P model is... less than stellar.

[Isichar]

It's even more ironic hen he's literally supposed to be dead.

 

Our lives are worth living!

 

*Gets owned by mana bomb*

 

Raise your eyes to the sky and observe!

 

This is Blizzard lore we're talking about here. Death is not but a minor inconvenience

[Master Shiori]

it's pretty much same thing, but the good F2P model is Star Trek Online. it allows players to level up all way to 60 instead of SWTOR's F2P capped at level 50
while WoW's F2P is capped at level 20.

It's not "capped" at the lower level.

 

SWTOR allows you to experience the entire vanilla game for free (up to level 50 which is the original level cap for vanilla story line).

 

If you wish to level beyond that, then you need to get the expansion(s) like everyone else.

 

Heck, Bioware is even giving out the first expansion, Rise of the Hutt Cartel, for FREE to anyone who pre-orders the second expansion "Shadow of Revan".

[Master Shiori]

When it comes to MMOs, I put off any sort of general chat unless I absolutely have to. Talk with people you know right?

This is pretty much a general rule for any MMO.

 

Sure, SWTOR's chat on capital planets and the fleet is bad as the Vanilla, Burning Crusade and WotLK chats were for Barrens in WoW (no idea if that's still the case since I stopped playing after WotLK).

 

In short: turn off the general chat as soon as you log in and enjoy the peace and quiet.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Honestly. The Secret World did it right.
You pay for the game once, and that's it.
No subscriptions, no f2p stuff (even though Cryptic did a good job with Champions and STO)

Sure there's the in-game store. But it's all just cosmetic stuff like clothes.

Only problem is that game starts off with over 10 hours of Zombies. Which for a game about Lovecraftian Horrors and Cryptids is annoying and unimaginitive.

[Puzzlewell]

The Secret World is one I fully intend to go back to at some point. I've mumbled plenty about it in the anime topic but I'm pretty keen of Lovecraft's work so when TSW was first announced, I rolled around all happy like. There's a lot of things I really like about the game too, especially with how it has many different kinds of quests that break up the typical MMO grindy feeling (absolutely love the investigation missions). I just need a bigger HD before I get back to it.

[CrazyRah]

Obligatory Ulduar is the best raid Blizz has done.

Now to actually be on topic, I played TOR for a bit a few years back. The agent story was pretty much the high point for me and yeah people complained about WoW. To each their own though cause I got back into WoW this year after quitting a ways into BC, and quite honestly I love the game more now than I personally did way back when. WoD's releasing soon and wheee. Mean while TOR just kind of hangs out since I can't really find the motivation to play it since I don't have a sub and their F2P model is... less than stellar.

 

Can't agree enough on Ulduar! What a blast that place was

[Heimdall]

The Secret World is one I fully intend to go back to at some point. I've mumbled plenty about it in the anime topic but I'm pretty keen of Lovecraft's work so when TSW was first announced, I rolled around all happy like. There's a lot of things I really like about the game too, especially with how it has many different kinds of quests that break up the typical MMO grindy feeling (absolutely love the investigation missions). I just need a bigger HD before I get back to it.

I actually planned to play that, then I realized my computer was too weak to handle it

[Cassandra Saturn]

It's not "capped" at the lower level.
 
SWTOR allows you to experience the entire vanilla game for free (up to level 50 which is the original level cap for vanilla story line).
 
If you wish to level beyond that, then you need to get the expansion(s) like everyone else.
 
Heck, Bioware is even giving out the first expansion, Rise of the Hutt Cartel, for FREE to anyone who pre-orders the second expansion "Shadow of Revan".

yes, but at level 20 of SWTOR as F2Per, you are earning reduced experience points. so it's basically grindfest for F2Pers.

F2Per Restrictions:
Chat option not available until level 10
Credit Limit: 200K
Level 20 reduced experience points
and so forth blah blah.

I would be happy to get the shadow of revan which also comes with 12x XP boost. but right now I've been struggling with this as f2Per.

I've been broke for three years now in rl, but I try to manage with what I have now. at least I have great friends on Harbinger server helping me get through few problems. if I had money to buy revan, I would.

[BroBear Berbil]

I've been broke for three years now in rl, but I try to manage with what I have now. at least I have great friends on Harbinger server helping me get through few problems. if I had money to buy revan, I would.

 

That sucks, hope things turn around for you. Biggest thing keeping my out of MMOs atm is my failing PC. Was saving for a new one and then a bunch of dental stuff just popped up.

 

Have you tried GW2? As far as F2P models go, it's the only one I've found to be tolerable. I haven't played it in awhile but besides what I paid for the box I never spent a dime on the cash shop and just purchased stuff with in-game currency.

[Farangbaa]

Honestly I think the main problem with MMOs these days is that they cater too much towards solo play and convenience, to the point where community is nearly non-existant. It's exceedingly difficult to meet new people by simply playing the game. You're expected to put the cart before the horse now and find a guild before meeting any of its members, and then you only need these people for endgame content.
 
That's the other problem - endgame. As somebody who raided for years in WoW and then a bit in SWTOR I really miss the MMOs I played before WoW, FFXI and EQOA. Those games were more about the journey and needing other people to progress through the game, thereby making connections with people. The WoW model shuttles you around through content by yourself so you can get to max level within a week and then start the real game, and this is the model nearly every MMORPG uses now. It's no wonder these games suffer massive dropoff after the first month and then steadily decline until they get to F2P status.

You and

Which, to me, demonstrates an inherent, tragic flaw that has permeated SP RPG design now as well - combat only skills. When you base the entire MMO about DPS and combat, you limit the role any player can have to just being a specific role to play in a dungeon instance. Can you imagine an MMO where you needed someone in your party to pick a lock? Or break a magic enchantment? Where having a guild quartermaster/blacksmith would be a fun, rewarding and necessary role? Where community extends outside the group of 20+ strangers who you kill enemies with?

What about constructing buildings? Or having a stake in a city's success? Of owning your own business? Or wars between nations? Not done as a scripted event due to an expansion, but organic, player-initiated events, interests in resources or territory or alliances.

Instead, it's just max/min for DPS, build yourself into a tank/healer/damage dealer and wash, rinse, repeat. It reduces the entire experience to a combat model that is now very tired and boring.

You.

You two are genius. Make me a good MMO please

[saMoorai]

Everytime I get on SWTOR and look at the chat, all people ever ever do is talk about Autocannibalism, or awkwardly flirt with each other until someone gets so uncomfortable they leave, or some other crap.

 

I love it.

[Melra]

*yawn* Who cares about SWTOR general chat? There's never been anything useful there, the EU servers are the worst in that regard and US servers tend to be one big dramafest.

 

[BroBear Berbil]

*yawn* Who cares about SWTOR general chat? There's never been anything useful there, the EU servers are the worst in that regard and US servers tend to be one big dramafest.

 

 

I do love me some MMO drama though, especially when sex gets involved.

[Liamv2]

The last time I played SWTOR I recall there being tons of conversations about lesbians.

[BroBear Berbil]

The last time I played SWTOR I recall there being tons of conversations about lesbians.

 

Well, it is a BioWare game after all.