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Telltale's Game of Thrones (Episode Five - A Nest of Vipers)


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My first thought also was that he is one of Varys' little birds.

However, doesn't the boy survive regardless if you help him or not? That is what I read.

Which raises the possibility him and Damien were both in on it and this was some plot to gain Mira's trust.



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I've still heard nothing substantial from Telltale on their forums regarding fixing Episode 2.

 

Technically because of the black screen issue the game doesn't register Episode 2 as being completed.

 

This is ridiculous.



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Finished the second episode, I'm still hooked. Even if I would like that they don't jump so much from one storyline to another.

 

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My first thought also was that he is one of Varys' little birds.

However, doesn't the boy survive regardless if you help him or not? That is what I read.

Which raises the possibility him and Damien were both in on it and this was some plot to gain Mira's trust.

Could be. Personally I was wary of both Damien and the boy who needs a bath.

I'm really curious who sent them/him. The merchants are kinda obvious but...



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Ah man, I just realised that Mira's going to be horribly screwed when Tyrion's accused of murdering Joffrey.

Not only does she lose Tyrion as one of her best avenues to try and help her family, since Margaery being not as helpful because she's trying to maintain good PR and stay in the Lannister's good graces, but because Cersei's the kind of person who'd remember Tyrion sticking up for her in Episode One and probably arrange things so that the crown allows the Whitehills to take the Ironwood out from underneath the Forresters... because doing things out of spite is what Cersei does?


She has a shadow backer. The spider.
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Finished the second episode, I'm still hooked. Even if I would like that they don't jump so much from one storyline to another.

 

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Could be. Personally I was wary of both Damien and the boy who needs a bath.

I'm really curious who sent them/him. The merchants are kinda obvious but...

 

The merchants really have no influence over the Lannister guard.I doubt they could bribe him, I'm sure the Lannisters pay him well.Risking his high-ranked well paid job for quick cash grab doesn't make sense.

 

I agree with @MisterJB, this is most likely Varys' plot to gain Mira's trust and/or to get her in a position where he can blackmail her.I'm sure Varys wants some of that Ironwood.



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Tazel: Isn't it funny how life brings old friends together?

 

Love it.



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Just finished Episode 2. Had a lot of fun with that, although I'm certain no matter what I do things will get worse, probably with a hope spot which gets dashed at the end of episode 5 (There's 6 episodes I think, so episode 5 would be roughly the right place for the stuff that generally happens in episodes 7 or 8 in the show). Fun, grim times ahead.

 

My choices and my poor justifications

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All in all a good episode, looking forward to more.



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The issue with ditching the knife, IMO, is that since coal boy makes the corpse disappear, there is no evidence Damien was ever murdered. Even if the other guard informs Cersei he was last seen Mira, all she has to say is that "We separated amicably." and find a good reason as to why they would be meeting there.

If the bloody knife is found in the gardens where Damien was last seen with Mira, there is greater reason to suspect he was killed by her.

If, on the other hand, the knife is found in Mira's quarters, all she has to say is that she cut herself. Unless the knife can be recognized to be from a soldier of the Lannisters, they'll be suspicious but they won't be able to prove anything.



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Am I the only one who is completely in love with the art style? The game looks gorgeous at 4K.

 

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I have a feeling the knife decision will bite us no matter what we do.

Keeping the knife and we risk of becoming a suspect, unless if Mira decides to throw the knife in the ocean or bury it somewhere. Throwing the knife will cause guards to get suspicious that someone was actualy murdered (assuming if they find it).But in the end it all depends if the body gets discovered.

 

Although my main question is how important is Damien. Was he just a normal Lannister guard or was he important to anyone because if that's the case people will realize he is missing.



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I'm not too worried about Mira tossing the knife.

 

There's no fingerprinting, and her being both female and a child probably works in her favor. People will underestimate her, and if they think a guard was murdered they'll probably assume the killer was an adult male.



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Yeah, the knife is probably going to cause problems no matter what. I just think that keeping it will cause a bigger problem, especially since there probably won't be a body. I can't be the only one thinking the boy saying he knows places in Flea Bottom to get rid of it is alluding to bowls of brown and what Tyrion said about them in the books.

 

The knife looked fairly fancy, not just some common shiv, so it's either issued to Lannister Guards as part of their equipment (hence linking Mira further to Damien if she keeps it) or it belongs to him and would be recognised by the other guard or potentially others. He might be minor nobility, some third/fourth son of a landed knight in service to the Lannisters, or he might just be a random guard assigned to Tyrion.


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Does the bargain Ironwood is correct? I believe that if the theories are correct:

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I have a feeling the knife decision will bite us no matter what we do.
Keeping the knife and we risk of becoming a suspect, unless if Mira decides to throw the knife in the ocean or bury it somewhere. Throwing the knife will cause guards to get suspicious that someone was actualy murdered (assuming if they find it).But in the end it all depends if the body gets discovered.
 
Although my main question is how important is Damien. Was he just a normal Lannister guard or was he important to anyone because if that's the case people will realize he is missing.


Even if he was just a normal guard that someone paid to do their dirty work, people are going to realize he's missing when he doesn't show up for duty.

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I know this isn't directly about Game of Thrones, but it is about Telltale and people might be interested (or worried, given the content of the two articles) in a couple of articles which came out yesterday and today about some fairly big changes at Telltale. If there's a general Telltale thread somewhere that I've missed I'd move them there.

 

John Riccitiello joins Telltale's board of directors

 

And slightly less concerning, but with some of the wording in the article not entirely good.

 

Lionsgate make a significant investment in Telltale Games and their CEO joins the board of directors

 

Now, I don't know if this is actually a terrible thing, but the guy who is perhaps infamous for two runs as CEO of EA and that video where he wants to charge battlefield players for reloading is now on the board of directors of one of my favourite devs. The Lionsgate thing is more of a minor thing, but given the article has quotes talking about bringing their IPs into gaming and also original IPs into TV (Telltale's original IP becoming a TV series as well? That worked well for that MMO Defiance which pretty much failed), well, maybe brace yourself for Telltale's Twilight: Still a better lovestory than Twilight, somehow.



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aw crap, I don't like the sound of any of that :wacko:



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Telltale fixed whatever issue was having us on the Xbox Ones unable to finish Episode 2. Done now.



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I was never the biggest fan of any Telltale game but Tales of the Borderlands and Game of Thrones has changed my perspective big time

On GoT though, I've made the unpopular decisions based on what the post game tells me lol Forging the letter and makimg Ser Reyland the Sentinel, surprised it was hard for so many to get Rodrick hitched though it did seems easier with the forged letter

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I know this isn't directly about Game of Thrones, but it is about Telltale and people might be interested (or worried, given the content of the two articles) in a couple of articles which came out yesterday and today about some fairly big changes at Telltale. If there's a general Telltale thread somewhere that I've missed I'd move them there.

 

John Riccitiello joins Telltale's board of directors

 

And slightly less concerning, but with some of the wording in the article not entirely good.

 

Lionsgate make a significant investment in Telltale Games and their CEO joins the board of directors

 

Now, I don't know if this is actually a terrible thing, but the guy who is perhaps infamous for two runs as CEO of EA and that video where he wants to charge battlefield players for reloading is now on the board of directors of one of my favourite devs. The Lionsgate thing is more of a minor thing, but given the article has quotes talking about bringing their IPs into gaming and also original IPs into TV (Telltale's original IP becoming a TV series as well? That worked well for that MMO Defiance which pretty much failed), well, maybe brace yourself for Telltale's Twilight: Still a better lovestory than Twilight, somehow.

Dammit has never been more appropriate then now. 

 

I don't like talking smack about anyone, but I am really uncomfortable with JR and don't want him anywhere near my video games.    I never agree with any of his decision and therefore am unable to trust him to have the customers best interests at heart.  :sick:

 

I'm fine with the Lionsgate deal, because I think a Telltale Saw game would be amazing, but I think that Telltale should finish the 4 (5 maybe, did they confirm Wolf Among Us Season 2?) games they are working on first. Their team is really small if I recall correctly and I'm not too happy about all the bugs that slipped through Game of Thrones Episode 2 (especially my choices not carrying over).

 

If those kind of bugs keep slipping into their games it defeats the whole allure of the game to me and I'll have to stop buying their products and I really don't want things to go that route. I'm really starting to think that Telltale might be selling out and are getting swollen heads from all their success.

 

Edit: Wikipedia states they have 240 employees, that's not exactly a lot for 4 or 5 concurrent projects (maybe even 6 if they are working on that Friday the 13th: Video Game like I suspect) in my opinion.   

 

Source: http://en.wikipedia..../Telltale_Games



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Yeah, the JR thing is much more worrying. Honestly I'm more than willing to lay down the £17-20 for a Telltale season Steam charges for pre-order, due to the great time I've had with their games so far, but I can see someone like him pushing for higher prices and that would turn me from a pre-order to waiting until the season is out and Steam has it on sale. The guy is poison from a PR point as well, everyone knows who he is and a lot of people hate EA because of things he had a hand in.

 

The bugs have been increasing, and it even seems the optimisation isn't as good. During the fight scenes in Ep 2 with Asher, my PC (which played season 2 of TWD just fine and same for TWAU) was chugging and my fps went as low as 15-20. I didn't notice an increase in the requirements for the game, although I might have missed it. Even Ep 1 didn't have that problem for me (just the wonky controls not working well for some of the QTEs).

 

It's definitely disconcerting when they keep announcing new projects and now this. On the other hand though, perhaps the Lionsgate money will allow them to hire more people.



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Yeah, the JR thing is much more worrying. Honestly I'm more than willing to lay down the £17-20 for a Telltale season Steam charges for pre-order, due to the great time I've had with their games so far, but I can see someone like him pushing for higher prices and that would turn me from a pre-order to waiting until the season is out and Steam has it on sale. The guy is poison from a PR point as well, everyone knows who he is and a lot of people hate EA because of things he had a hand in.

 

The bugs have been increasing, and it even seems the optimisation isn't as good. During the fight scenes in Ep 2 with Asher, my PC (which played season 2 of TWD just fine and same for TWAU) was chugging and my fps went as low as 15-20. I didn't notice an increase in the requirements for the game, although I might have missed it. Even Ep 1 didn't have that problem for me (just the wonky controls not working well for some of the QTEs).

 

It's definitely disconcerting when they keep announcing new projects and now this. On the other hand though, perhaps the Lionsgate money will allow them to hire more people.

I didn't suffer any FPS drops or issues, but there was a lot of clipping issues on the Xbox One and it didn't look that good graphically, tho graphics is hardly an issue. I think it was the IOS that was broken to the point that people didn't stand a chance during any of the quick time events, not sure, I know it was one of the platforms. It's just getting harder to ignore their outdated engine as time goes on, they really need to upgrade.

 

I don't believe that the Lionsgate money will make a difference on whether or not they hire more people. Their games have been doing extremely well since the Walking Dead Season 1, in fact the Walking Dead Season 1 was at the top of the Xbox Marketplace sales charts at one point in time. The Walking Dead Season 1 is what made them popular and I think that their sales have only been increasing since, which leads me to believe that if they were going to hire more people they would have done it by now:

 

"The first episode topped the charts on Xbox Live Arcade for the week of April 30,[122] and remained at the top for two weeks. It also topped the sales charts for both PlayStation Network and Steam for a week.[123] The first episode sold one million copies in 20 days (not including iOS sales), making it Telltale's fastest selling title to date.[123] With the third episode's release, over 3.8 million episodes were delivered to 1.2 million players.[121] As of January 2013, over 8.5 million episodes have been sold across all platforms, representing about $40 million in revenue." 

 

Source: http://en.wikipedia....deo_game)#Sales

 

Hopefully, I am wrong and you are correct. Perhaps the uproar that Game of Thrones Episode 2 caused will cause them to hire on more people so that they can have better quality assurance testing done. 

 

I understand the desire to make a return on an investment, but when companies force out their products ahead of time and in a buggy mess, it just causes a lot of hurt for the gamers which in turn causes them to become disheartened towards the company that released it. I mean sure they can replace the customers that they anger and lose, but eventually there comes a point to where there is no one left to dupe and all the angry eyes are focused on you, you know? Everyone involved loses in the long run when those sort of practices come about, I just don't understand it. Companies should focus on releasing something that they can be proud of and that their customers enjoy, no one needs to get shafted. 



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I was never the biggest fan of any Telltale game but Tales of the Borderlands and Game of Thrones has changed my perspective big time
On GoT though, I've made the unpopular decisions based on what the post game tells me lol Forging the letter and makimg Ser Reyland the Sentinel, surprised it was hard for so many to get Rodrick hitched though it did seems easier with the forged letter


Yes, it's easier to get the marriage with the forged letter backing you up. Without it, I believe you have to offer ironwood to be successful.

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Heads up, we're getting a trailer on Monday, with a release before the end of the month.

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