Little random but i was wondering im doing dragon age keep and i can decide for Dragon age Inquisition if i want Alistar and Anora to rule or My warden and Anora. Im not even sure if this will really matter i might be over thinking it and this wont even matter in DAI.
Who do you think would have made the best king?
#1
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 03:49
#2
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 03:50
Alistair and Anora look like the best choice.
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#3
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 03:52
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#4
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 03:54
I think I have everything except a Warden who married Anora. I even have an unhardened Alistair on the throne in one world state. Honestly, I think the two of them together is probably the best combination IMO, but I think either one does a competent job by themselves.
#6
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 04:09
I like to go with Anorastair. Alistair is the hood ornament to Anora's politicalmobile.
#8
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 04:16
Little random but i was wondering im doing dragon age keep and i can decide for Dragon age Inquisition if i want Alistar and Anora to rule or My warden and Anora. Im not even sure if this will really matter i might be over thinking it and this wont even matter in DAI.
to me, Alistair was the best ruler for ferelden.
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#9
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Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 04:21
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Disclaimer: this is all my opinion. So please don't redundantly point that out. I'm aware.
I prefer to put Anora on the throne because she deserved it the most. She knew how a kingdom was to be ruled. She knew what the job entailed and what sacrifices needed to be made. Anora wasn't afraid. And too often the point was raised that she was the real power behind King Cailan.
Cailan was not as fit of a ruler as Anora. In addition to his foolhardiness, his own half brother Alistair was hesitant to be king. Sure, you could harden Al and make him king. And in that, he'd be an okay king at best. But his heart wasn't in it. Alistair loved being a warden. That was his passion. Comparing that, ruling the kingdom was Anora's passion. She belonged on that throne.
I often felt bad for her because she was at the mercy of too many men who couldn't do the job - her husband, her father, Eamon, even Alistair - and these men stood in her way. (Sidenote: Loghain supported the idea of Anora sitting on the throne, but his methods were so convoluted that he did his daughter a disservice. Let's face it - the man was not building Anora's credibility. Also, I feared he wanted to rule through her.)
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#10
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 05:08
I feel Bad for him then usually I let him be a grey warden still.Anora, alistair proves he's unfit to rule with the loghain issue. He's selfish, petulant and whiny. i make him a drunk every time without hesitation.
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#11
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 05:11
My Warden
#12
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Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 05:12
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Agreed..
But at the same time, I lost faith in that angle of the story. I don't think it's going anywhere.
#13
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 05:15
Agreed..
But at the same time, I lost faith in that angle of the story. I don't think it's going anywhere.
Same, it ruins the point of a Grey Warden, if i had to choose to be king in the next games as my warden, id go against it. My job is killing the Darkspawn and protecting the innocent, being king completely contradicts the "Grey" in their name choosing a side when we're supposed to be a neutral force
#14
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 05:16
Anora claims she is brilliant at ruling, but the events at DA do not give me reassurance. I feel she shows no judgment because she lets her dad do whatever he wants, even if it is bad for the kingdom. She shows no leadership. She can't even keep herself safe. I can't think of a single decision that happens while she is in charge that I can point at and think- well that was competent or a sign that she'd make a good ruler. (Just my opinion)
Sometimes, the person who thinks they might not be good at something tries harder than the person who thinks they are just swell and have the bloody right to it. Alistair seems like he'd at least try hard. Hardened Alistair actually does quite well.
I could never bring any of my characters to make her ruler.
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Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 05:17
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#16
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 05:41
Little random but i was wondering im doing dragon age keep and i can decide for Dragon age Inquisition if i want Alistar and Anora to rule or My warden and Anora. Im not even sure if this will really matter i might be over thinking it and this wont even matter in DAI.
Well given Alistairs penchant for leaving the country and going off on little adventures to Antiva and Tevinter in the comics, oh and annoncing his Kingly prescence in a room full of Tevinter Magisters so they could kidnap and ransom him indicates he is A bad king.
No suprise there though, no training and theirin blood (They are notoriously bad rulers)
All starting with Calenhad who after having just united the kingdom deciding the risk a civil war, oh and then abdicating before his son and sucession was even born and guarenteed once again risking civil war.
Whereas Anora had been ruling Ferelden effectively for the past 5 years and doing a good job of it before her father usurped power (As a national hero and head of the army) and then the idiot nobility decided to rebel in a blight.
If the epilogue slides are any idication Anora is clearly A better choice, passing laws for more substansial harvests after the blight, refilling the royal coffers and building A university.
Alistair makes an elf bann which while nice is not comparable to Anoras achivements.
Anora+Warden epilogue slide suggests The two could lead Ferelden into A golden age if they don't end up fighting for power.
Pick Anora or Anora + Warden
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#17
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 05:53
Cousland/Anora FTW
Honestly as much as I like Alistair he is only ever King in my games under the following
1.Alistair"Unhardened"/Cousland Queen
2.Alistair"UnHardened"/Anora Queen
3.Alistair"Unhardened"/Warden Chancellor
That way the nobility gets their Theiren King but he will be a figurehead only leaving the future of Feralden in vastly superior hands that can keep Eamon at bay.
#18
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 07:21
Realistically, Alistair as a figure head with a number of trusted advisers. In game, likely a hardened Alistair ruling on his own, though I doubt any choice will have serious consequences. Regardless, Alistair seems to harden on his own in that comic.
#19
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 07:36
Hardened Alistair & Anora, with the Cousland Warden as Chancellor of Ferelden
#20
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 11:19
Hardened Alistair & Anora.
I highly doubt hardened Alistair will be any different than unhardened Alistair since there are no option concerning harden Alistair or Leliana in the Keep, and in DA:II Alistair is still the same man you met at Ostagar. *sigh*
#21
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 11:32
#22
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 11:48
She blindly let her father do whatever he wanted.
Betrayed me to Ser Cauthrien making me appear like a kidnapper and traitor and can back stab you at the Landsmeet unless you back stab her first.
So I tend to tell Anora I will make her Queen, then put Hardened Alistair and Cousland on the throne. >:}
When I'm playing another Warden, just Alistair on the throne.
My pure evil keep state will have Anora on the throne though because Alistair will be a drunk
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#23
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 02:18
I loathe Anora.
She blindly let her father do whatever he wanted.
Betrayed me to Ser Cauthrien making me appear like a kidnapper and traitor and can back stab you at the Landsmeet unless you back stab her first.
She is also the real power governing Ferelden during Cailan's reign since the king is too busy being idiot playing a knight in the shiny armor seeking glory instead of ruling Ferelden like he should. People didn't pay tax so their king could play in his own playground.
You don't have to like her, and I'm not a big fan of Anora but you'll have to at least admit that while she's a sniveling liar, and backstabbing, self-serving politician she's also a competent and cunning person, and also a skilled politician who could rule Ferelden and strengthen the nation.
#24
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 03:56
she's also a competent and cunning person, and also a skilled politician who could rule Ferelden and strengthen the nation.
This is what I struggle with, personally.
I can't find any evidence in the game that this would be the case.
"The real power behind the throne" is all fine and good, but is she any good at it? She has no control over her husband who decimates their armies. She has no control over her dad, who causes a civil war. She is arrested by her dad's allies and needs rescuing when she is the reagent? She doesn't even have the support of her own arls.
So, how is anyone to determine that she'd be any good? Because of a few lore entries? I have so much trouble with it.
There is a lot of evidence that she is manipulative. But, cunning, accomplished, smart, showing good judgment, competent? You'll have to help me out there,
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#25
Posté 11 novembre 2014 - 04:22
I at first was ok with putting Anora on the throne to rule jointly with Alistair, but afterwards there were so many things indicating to me that she may have not been the best choice.
First off was the fact that after 5 years of trying to bear offspring, she hadn't even fallen pregnant once & Cailan was planning on marrying Empress Celene to fix it. Now having children may not seem like an important point of being a ruler for some, but it is in terms of securing the country & ensuring no civil war breaks out over claims to the throne, it's a biggie for me. And even if she was put on the throne with Alistair or the Warden, there wasn't much chance of her having any kids with Wardens that had the Taint.
Secondly there was Alistair's hardened state, that I missed for 3 playthroughs because I didn't think it would make much of a difference, but I saw a major difference when I played DA2 after DA:O, many people have a much better opinion of him, he rules better and actually was very determined to change Fereldan into a better country for all it's inhabitants. Even going so far as to stand against the Chantry in defense of mages, appoint Elven Banns to rule over areas where more elves lived.. (RIP Seranni :c ).
I didn't honestly care when he beheaded Loghain and it was him in this state that put me wise to Anora & Loghain's manipulative actions. Claiming that they were the true rulers of Fereldan during Cailan's reign, just was insulting and to my ears & even probably an act of treason.
I also observed how Anora didn't let go of her claim to the throne, when a more competent Alistair was ready to rule. I thought that not refusing at first was a sign of her not wanting to hand over rulership of the country to someone that didn't want or have any idea what to do on the throne, but when I hardened him and he began studying, acking advice from smarter members of the squad and even told me to step down from making a choice cause he had finally started acting like the senior Warden & taking charge. Which was very hot but that's not the point.
To me, Alistair was the better choice for ruler & I will look forward to seeing him with a beard in DA:I.
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