Anora and only her.
Who do you think would have made the best king?
#51
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 10:24
#52
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 10:30
Alistair, mostly because Anora is about as trustworthy as a con-man.
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#53
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 11:00
Disclaimer: this is all my opinion. So please don't redundantly point that out. I'm aware.
I prefer to put Anora on the throne because she deserved it the most. She knew how a kingdom was to be ruled. She knew what the job entailed and what sacrifices needed to be made. Anora wasn't afraid. And too often the point was raised that she was the real power behind King Cailan.
Cailan was not as fit of a ruler as Anora. In addition to his foolhardiness, his own half brother Alistair was hesitant to be king. Sure, you could harden Al and make him king. And in that, he'd be an okay king at best. But his heart wasn't in it. Alistair loved being a warden. That was his passion. Comparing that, ruling the kingdom was Anora's passion. She belonged on that throne.
I often felt bad for her because she was at the mercy of too many men who couldn't do the job - her husband, her father, Eamon, even Alistair - and these men stood in her way. (Sidenote: Loghain supported the idea of Anora sitting on the throne, but his methods were so convoluted that he did his daughter a disservice. Let's face it - the man was not building Anora's credibility. Also, I feared he wanted to rule through her.)
As far as I know, Alistair does a damned good job of it, if he is hardened and ruling with Anora.
#54
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 02:33
I'm just surprised you let him live.
oh i killed him, who knows how many people would take up alistairs cause after he was dead claiming to be a relo, or anora a usurper?
This way Anora is seen as merciful sparing Cailan's bastard.
he shows ALL the arle's he only wanted to be king to murder a man who although having made terrible choices, did so to try and save Fereldon once again, Just as he did when saving her from the Orlaisan's. Respected the rites and traditions of Fereldon and after stepping aside upon defeat in single combat (of which alistar did not take part) was willing to submit to the wardens as penance for his crimes.
hell the times Loghain dies striking down the arch demon he dies being redeemed his last deed fittingly, in service to Fereldon.
but no matter Loghains end, the warden that united a fractured country declared Anora the rightful ruler.
Alistar?
His only Friend wouldn't endorse him
His Stepmother rules
He's humiliated by being allowed to live, instead of cutdown for being a threat
His nemesis redeemed
and then he flee's Fereldon in her greatest time of need breaking his vow to the wardens.
ending his life may make him a martyr, this way he's just a useless drunk who failed at being a templar, failed at being a warden and failed in his bid to be king.
#55
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Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 06:59
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As far as I know, Alistair does a damned good job of it, if he is hardened and ruling with Anora.
Yeah it's better for him when she's in the picture, plus the hardened aspect.
However, the truth is, he wants to be a warden. He seems to find the most pride in that role - to such a point that he would rather have Loghain die (or he'd rather abandon your warden) than share such an honor.
#56
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Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 07:02
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oh i killed him, who knows how many people would take up alistairs cause after he was dead claiming to be a relo, or anora a usurper?
This way Anora is seen as merciful sparing Cailan's bastard.
What?
Maric's?
#57
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 07:03
What?
Maric's?
that's what they wanted you to think! ![]()
#58
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 07:05
For me I do it like this, if I am a human noble then I marry either Anora or Alistair, if not I hook Anora and Alistair. I tend to think that either Anora or Alistair by themselves is bad for Fereldan.
#59
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 08:01
Having read The Stolen Throne I regretted putting Allister on the throne.
At least put him there with Anora. Allister, like his farther, wouldn't make a good ruler by himself.
He is there so the crown has the charisma and legitimacy.
From a story perspective I would not put my warden up for queen/king. I felt that the Human Nobel origin story should have made the player character hate the nobility circle. Duncan also did a huge favor by saving him/her. And wasn't Cousland all about duty or something? So no, my grey warden would not be a ruler.
#60
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 09:11
From a story perspective I would not put my warden up for queen/king. I felt that the Human Nobel origin story should have made the player character hate the nobility circle. Duncan also did a huge favor by saving him/her. And wasn't Cousland all about duty or something? So no, my grey warden would not be a ruler.
My Cousland Warden didn't start resenting the nobility as much as he leaped at the chance to correct it, when the opportunity arouse.
#61
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 09:29
Cailan was a good man but was more towards heroics than the boring duty of ruling. However I would rather see the Kingdom burn instead of let Anora rule after she betrayed me.
Hardened Alistair is a good king. As far as I'm concerned Anora will spend the rest of her life locked in a tower and before leaving to find Morrigan I'm hoping my warden went to her cell flipped her off and said something like "F**k you b**ch, Alistair lived. Enjoy your prison cell, I'll have Loghain's head sent to you as a decoration for your cell."
Alistair if he is hardened doens't need Anora to rule and does quite well without her, but like I said I would rather the Kingdom burn than let a family of betrayers take the thrown. Like father like daughter they both are selfish power hungry maniacs that betrayed you.
All my Warden cared about was leaving to find his dark-haired sorceress and once he did he left the World through the Eluvian with no doubts of who he helped achieve the throne knowing Alistair would do his best fulfilling his promish to help the Dalish through better or worse.
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#62
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 11:13
Honestly this topic is a little confusing I think what is being asked over all is who is the best Ruler for Ferelden to which I say Anora no question but as to who is the best King thats Cousland.
Alistair doesnt want to be King you literally have to force him to be King if he isnt hardened or if you try to fill the Grey Warden Ranks "Loghain" he takes the throne out of anger just to execute Loghain theres only one word to describe him Selfish.
Alistair is weak and Eamon would no doubt really be in charge he has to much sway over Alistair Hardened or not do you really think he would go against the only father figure and the man that raised him.
Long Live King Aedan Cousland and Queen Anora Mac Tir Cousland. ![]()
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#63
Posté 14 novembre 2014 - 11:44
Why would my Warden hate the nobility?
He was the beloved second son. That meant next to no serious duty and lots of wealth and women.
He was a rockstar who did everything he could for fame, fortune, glory and power. Yes - cure the Blight, but look amazing while doing it and build my legend.
Marry Anora - unite with her, or put her to her death - the Cousland line would be lords of Highever, Amaranthine and Ferelden - AND, isn't it just convenient I had a son with Morrigan (not an OGB).
Alistair? Oh, I talked him into killing Anora's father (easier to control Anora that way) and die a hero. Of course, I had to be magnanimous and trade some fame to get the little tart out of the picture... but the PRIZE.
#64
Posté 15 novembre 2014 - 12:02
Personally, I think that Alistair and Anora married as King and Queen has the potential to be worst option
possible from the Landsmeet. It's quite possible given their different ideologies (Alistair being more idealistic
and Anora being more pragmatic) that this could lead to slow and indecisive leadership especially during
urgent and important issues that require firm and clear direction due to their inability to negotiate
and compromise effectively on solutions to those problems.
Ultimately, I guess it depends on if their relationship has matured over the last decade. If not,
Inquisitor could receive no assistance because of a deadlock between the two are at loggerheads
with each other. Unlikely, though it could be a nice touch if conducted correctly.
#65
Posté 15 novembre 2014 - 12:37
Alistair and Anora look like the best choice.
mmmmm maybe only because you can see both in the same time for the cameo. BUT i dont like Alistair as king very much you must consider that bheind him there is The fat man, the pig arle of Redclieffe, Eamon is a stupid traditionalist
just because Chalenad or Maric were good king( and also to have a great influence on the throne) he want to put Alistair in charge, do not trust him.
#66
Posté 15 novembre 2014 - 12:48
Hardened Alistair married to Anora, I reckon.
Anora has the experience and the administrative ability. Hardened Alistair is willing to learn statecraft while remaining the personable man of the people he always was.
There's also Alistair/Anora married to the Warden, but how good that would be depends on your Warden.
#67
Posté 25 novembre 2014 - 02:36
Warden Cousland and Anora, Alistair have no other purpose than being a drunkard in some tavern at the ass end of the world
#68
Posté 25 novembre 2014 - 10:03
Ideally, Fergus and Anora. Fergus has the education and the bloodline to appease even the most conservative of the Landsmeet, and Anora has shown herself to an able peacetime ruler. I'm of the camp that believes Cailan was the one shooting blanks, and a new husband who is certainly able to produce heirs, not to mention seemingly more affable and generous of spirit would be a plus for both her and Ferelden. The pro-Loghain camp in the Landsmeet is appeased as well if Anora keeps her throne, and I don't doubt for a second Fergus would ask for, and receive, the Crown Matrimonial in return for his support. (basically, he is a King on equal standing with her rather than settle for a Princehood)
#69
Posté 04 février 2015 - 09:47
1) Anora/Cousland---->Golden age
2) Anora/Alistair (hardened)
3)Anora/Alistair (unhardened)
4)Anora solo
4)cousland/Alistair(hardened)
5)Cousland/AListair (unhardened)
6)Alistair hardened /wardn chancellor
7)Alistair unhardened/warden chancellor
8)Alistair Hardened /Eamon
9)Alistair Unhardened/Eamon
as much as i love Alistair Anora is much more competent, and put someone else on the throne is not for the benefit of Ferelden, but more for a personale taste. "
#70
Posté 04 février 2015 - 10:16
Alistair and Anora is obviously the best choice. Any other choice is just inferior.
#71
Posté 04 février 2015 - 11:12
Warden and Anora is superior.Alistair and Anora is obviously the best choice. Any other choice is just inferior.
My warden was trained to rule, to be a leader. He united Ferelden, Orzammar, a Dalish tribe and the Circle of Magi against the Blight and he succeded while Alistair stayed in the camp doing nothing, didnt even bother to talk to him.
#72
Posté 04 février 2015 - 11:18
Anora is that waifu, tbh. Anyway, the male Cousland Warden, never actually become king, even though the female Cousland one actually does become queen, so Alistair is the best king by default. It's like asking which tastes more delicious between roadkill and and hypothetical cake.
#73
Posté 04 février 2015 - 11:36
Honestly, Ferelden's just about ripe to form a parliament. Whoever sits on the thrown can busy themselves cutting ribbons and attending horse races.
#74
Posté 07 février 2015 - 02:13
#75
Posté 07 février 2015 - 03:43
When I chose Alistair+Anora(and Loghain as the Warden), I liked the outcome, but I kind of felt bad, because all the letters that came in DAI were from Alistair, and in DA2, all the mentions of the Ferelden monarch, again, were of Alistair. Same for Awakening. Yes, they had a joint visit in Redcliffe, but it was Alistair on the negotiations with Celene(a major point). I didn't feel very good about it. Felt like the writers thought "Oh, hey, Alistair, the fan favorite, let's give him the spotlight, and that woman Anora can wait in the corner".





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