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[Mukora]

This isn't real life. 

I fail to see how that's relevant.

 

If you can handle nudity in rule life, it should stand to reason you can handle it in a video game.

[phantomrachie]

Again, you can have it make sense without showing it. Heck, even the illusion of nudity would work. To use the Cassandra shot as an example, have her laying on her side or belly on the side of the Inquisitor and have the camera panned high enough that one sees only the two's heads and shoulders. You would know that they aren't wearing clothes without needing to see anything. 

 

Yes they could've done that but they didn't this time. I thought that Liara & femsheps sex scenes in ME1 and 3 were tastefully done and very sweet, however ME3 suffered from magical underwear during the post sex scene, which is grating and ruined the moment for me.

 

Why put your bra back on just after sex and then stay in bed? Seriously, anyone who knows the relief of taking your bra off after work will tell you that you don't wear it in bed unless you drank too much and past out on the bed fully clothed.

 

Frankly I grow tired of all the careful camera angles and other rigmarole that video games, T.V. & films go through just not to show a part of the human body.

 

While I can understand a person being uncomfortable around nudity, I also think that game developers should be able to experiment with their own format and BioWare have always done the fade to black, careful camera angles thing so it's time for a change.

 

Everyone of course has their own preferences and I'd be the first person to say that nudity for the sake of nudity is annoying, immature and generally one sided, but nudity can fit a scene if it's given the right context.

 

I'm very interested to see how BioWare handles romance in DA:I since it seems to be quite different to their previous games.

[Augustus Tirion]

How would the fade to black when there is nudity work when there are conversations you have to reply to that involve it, though? 

That's easy.

Voice over (and subtitles) and dialogue wheel on the black screen.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I fail to see how that's relevant.

If you can handle nudity in rule life, it should stand to reason you can handle it in a video game.

Game nudity is apparently too scary despite the scenes being skippable :|

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I fail to see how that's relevant.

 

If you can handle nudity in rule life, it should stand to reason you can handle it in a video game.

I do not know you well enough to share how it is different since it is very personal, so sadly you will not get the answers you want. 

[Mukora]

I do not know you well enough to share how it is different since it is very personal, so sadly you will not get the answers you want. 

That's fair enough.

 

I'm apologize, but I'm just trying to understand your perspective. Sadly, I don't think I ever will.

[BronzTrooper]

Game nudity is apparently too scary despite the scenes being skippable :|

 

Honestly, I think it might have more to do with game designers having to actively do all the designing for it.  But then, nudity in paintings is called 'art', so I'm not 100% sure about that.....  

[AlanC9]

I usually don't comment, but I have been reading most of this discussion, and think it is silly.  What difference does it make whether there are romance (sex) scenes, or nudity, or blood and guts, or that the Inquisitor has a green hand rather than purple?  It is up to the individual buying the game to determine whether or not they will like the content or not.  Don't like nudity or sex scenes?  Don't buy the game!   It is as simple as that.  To have these long discussions (which are fine by me if you like) trying to push your opinions (feelings, like, dislikes) on others is dumb.

This strikes me as a little overblown. I don't think there's anyone in the thread for whom this sort of thing would be a dealbreaker. The question is whether they'd like the game slightly less or not.

[WildOrchid]

I gave an alternative, but nobody even replied. 

How would the fade to black when there is nudity work when there are conversations you have to reply to that involve it, though? 

 

Cover the screen with your hands until you see the dialogue wheel.

[BronzTrooper]

This strikes me as a little overblown. I don't think there's anyone in the thread for whom this sort of thing would be a dealbreaker. The question is whether they'd like the game slightly less or not.

 

Considering how many people have cancelled their preorders just because certain characters weren't romanceable/were only available to certain genders/races or because of certain characters from previous games appearing/not appearing, it wouldn't be surprising if nudity in DA:I was a dealbreaker for people too.  As for this thread.... idk.  If they are here, they haven't made themselves known.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

Yes they could've done that but they didn't this time. I thought that Liara & femsheps sex scenes in ME1 and 3 were tastefully done and very sweet, however ME3 suffered from magical underwear during the post sex scene, which is grating and ruined the moment for me.

 

Why put your bra back on just after sex and then stay in bed? Seriously, anyone who knows the relief of taking your bra off after work will tell you that you don't wear it in bed unless you drank too much and past out on the bed fully clothed.

 

Frankly I grow tired of all the careful camera angles and other rigmarole that video games, T.V. & films go through just not to show a part of the human body.

 

While I can understand a person being uncomfortable around nudity, I also think that game developers should be able to experiment with their own format and BioWare have always done the fade to black, careful camera angles thing so it's time for a change.

 

Everyone of course has their own preferences and I'd be the first person to say that nudity for the sake of nudity is annoying, immature and generally one sided, but nudity can fit a scene if it's given the right context.

 

I'm very interested to see how BioWare handles romance in DA:I since it seems to be quite different to their previous games.

I agree that for ME3 they could of had the underwear replaced with say a bedsheet(which they already use to censor Liara) and then when she sits up just have them out of the camera angle.

 

That's easy.

Voice over (and subtitles) and dialogue wheel on the black screen.

Hmm, I suppose that would work. I was thinking just have the camera moved up slightly for the scene so everything is out of camera angle. 

 

That's fair enough.

 

I'm apologize, but I'm just trying to understand your perspective. Sadly, I don't think I ever will.

I know, and I am sorry I cannot help you understand my perspective better.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Honestly, I think it might have more to do with game designers having to actively do all the designing for it. But then, nudity in paintings is called 'art', so I'm not 100% sure about that.....

I really don't understand how certain people are so bothered by easily skippable pixel breasts & butt, it isn't mandatory to watch

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

Cover the screen with your hands until you see the dialogue wheel.

How would you see the dialogue wheel if your eyes are covered? 

 

 

I really don't understand how certain people are so bothered by easily skippable pixel breasts & butt, it isn't mandatory to watch

It is mandatory to look at though if you pursue the romance. Even though you can skip the sex scene itself, there are pillow talk scenes that have them still nude that you will have to look at when choosing dialogue options. This is the problem I have with it. 

[AWTEW]

As an A-sexual finding out about the mention in dialouge disturbs me. It was fine in DA2 since i could skip it and nothing explicet was mentioned, just implied. But now this '****** and ass taking on the side' makes me feel really .

[BronzTrooper]

I really don't understand how certain people are so bothered by easily skippable pixel breasts & butt, it isn't mandatory to watch

 

I don't get it either.  I mean, people are going to see nudity irl at some point in their life.  Why be so prudish about it in a video game?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

As an A-sexual finding out about the mention in dialouge disturbs me. It was fine in DA2 since i could skip it and nothing explicet was mentioned, just implied. But now this '****** and ass taking on the side' makes me feel really .

Hmm, I never thought of it before but I wonder if my orientation is part of the reason I do not like it in media as well. 

[BronzTrooper]

It is mandatory to look at though if you pursue the romance. Even though you can skip the sex scene itself, there are pillow talk scenes that have them still nude that you will have to look at when choosing dialogue options. This is the problem I have with it. 

 

Having sex with your LI isn't mandatory either.  You can turn them down and still keep the romance going (not sure if this is a universal truth with all the LIs).  Come to think of it, maybe having that option is a result of BW including in-game nudity.

[BronzTrooper]

As an A-sexual finding out about the mention in dialouge disturbs me. It was fine in DA2 since i could skip it and nothing explicet was mentioned, just implied. But now this '****** and ass taking on the side' makes me feel really .

 

I'm asexual and I don't mind it at all.  But then, I basically grew up on dirty jokes an innuendos, so that might be why it doesn't bother me.

[daveliam]

I'm not behind the idea of blacking out the screen and having voice over instead of nudity.  To me, that just sends a message that nudity is something that needs to be hidden away or is dirty or shameful or embarrasing.  I understand that some people don't like to see it, but it seems excessive to black it out so that no one can experience.  Does it need to be in the game?  No.  But that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be there given that almost everything in the game "doesn't need to be there".  If we keep removing anything that anyone might find offensive, we'd not have a game anymore.

[AlanC9]

But if there's a reason why people think there should be nudity, then there's something to discuss.
 
Do people think it adds maturity to the game?
 
An expression of closeness between the characters?
 
Realism and immersion?

I'll go with the last. I find the techniques used to avoid nudity to be somewhat ridiculous. I put up with this stuff on network dramas because FCC, but I don't see why Bioware should have to work this way any more than HBO does.

[AWTEW]

Some of you guys are being unfair by simply dissmissing others who don t like it.Not everyone wants to see, or hear about tittys and ass. For me personally its more the act itself that makes me nauseous. Here are some intresting things, more people in this thread should think of before assuming its 'weird'

Most A-sexuals
Religious Gamers ( yes they do exist)
There are also people who have been assulted, and sex in anyform can be a trigger for them.
Some people find it distasteful.
and ect.

[AresKeith]

Hmm, I never thought of it before but I wonder if my orientation is part of the reason I do not like it in media as well. 

 

I don't think orientation has anything to do with it

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

It is mandatory to look at though if you pursue the romance. Even though you can skip the sex scene itself, there are pillow talk scenes that have them still nude that you will have to look at when choosing dialogue options. This is the problem I have with it.

Can easily look away during scenes like that, i still don't understand why seeing a topless male or female character is such a huge deal, won't be long drawn out explicit scenes or anything

[WildOrchid]

How would you see the dialogue wheel if your eyes are covered? 

 

Not eyes, screen. Cover the screen, but not where the dialogue wheel pops up. Besides, you can hear if they stopped talking to know when the dialogue wheel pops up.