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[ShepardsBane]

hey guys dsl08002 and the others wardens fans we need claim for the cameo scene in future games,expansion or dlc of the warden alives/orlesian wardens.

 

i send very very much twits and messages for David gaider and laidlaw,we need fight for the warden.

 

 

really i see the video and he is only a misión of agents,really the bad treatment of bioware for the wardens is very very big.

 

 

is easy recreate the face of the warden and a personality neutral,why not a cameo with morrigan and the son,or we alistair married,or the other interest of love.

 

 

 

really i hate this treatment of bioware for the warden,they ignore the players of DAO.

Haha, this is hilarious. Please calm down, they're not "ignoring" the players of DA:O. I'd know, I'm a player of DA:O. 

 

To your logic, I should just send numerous emails, letters, tweets, etc. to George RR Martin demanding Tyrion sit on the Iron Throne. Because if he doesn't, he's ignoring the Tyrion fans out there.

 

Bioware is telling the story, let them tell it.

[Chari]

So, you want to see your Warden, fighting a demon, not talk whatsoever, then just disappear again? This would satisfy you?

Yes. I understand that the lack of the only VA is a problem but still

Plus I have a thing for silent badass characters

Not to mentions that gestures and expression give more information than speech does as far as linguistic professors have taught me. A single nod can say more than thousands words if the situation is appropriate 

I'd rather hear my Warden talking in some neutral tone than see them disappear forever

Seriously, a single agent mission is just bad

[WildOrchid]

Haha, this is hilarious. Please calm down, they're not "ignoring" the players of DA:O. I'd know, I'm a player of DA:O. 

 

To your logic, I should just send numerous emails, letters, tweets, etc. to George RR Martin demanding Tyrion sit on the Iron Throne. Because if he doesn't, he's ignoring the Tyrion fans out there.

 

Bioware is telling the story, let them tell it.

 

No matter how many times you say this, he won't understand.

[Chari]

No matter how many times you say this, he won't understand.

He does have a point though

A couple of mission would be nice. Not a single lame agent mission

[ShepardsBane]

No matter how many times you say this, he won't understand.

Yes, you're right. I was just hoping logic would prevail.

 

I was wrong.

[earl of the north]

It is possible to make a cameo which doesn't talk. It's very tricky but possible. I'd love a cutscene cameo which would include the Warden not being able to say anything (monsters appears, noise) as running gag

Plus they said that if they would give us our PCs to meet we would be able to customize their appearance 

I wonder how but it should be possible

I'm glad that the Warden will play an important role even if off-screen but dang I'd love an actual on-screen cameo even more

Heck, I don't even mind giving her ome neutral Shepard-like voice (I did manage to play a self-insert with Shepard. Not with Hawke, tho) and a coupleof neutral lines. It's not like I want DAI to be about the Warden though DA:O2 is like an impossible wish for me

 

 

Its a lot of trouble for really no benefit, its not just the appearance (which you would have to recreate from scratch), its the total lack of an established voice actor and personality of the Warden that means in effect your creating a new Warden to replace the ones from Origins......really its a generic mage, warrior or rogue who we would call the Warden, but you cannot interact with in any way without destroying the illusion that he/she is the Warden.

[WildOrchid]

He does have a point though

A couple of mission would be nice. Not a single lame agent mission

 

My problem with him isn't about what he says about Warden, is how he badmouths Hawke all the time. Bioware decided to add Hawke because she fits to the story and he implies how "bioware ignores dao fans". This "excuse" is lame.

[kinderschlager]

^{*hype intensifies*}

[thedistortedchild]

I would have liked to see the warden, but I know how difficult that would have been to implement. I'm just glad the HoF gets a mention.

[Ajna]

No matter how many times you say this, he won't understand.

Indeed, I thought about doing it myself, then I remembered...

[Chari]

 

Its a lot of trouble for really no benefit, its not just the appearance (which you would have to recreate from scratch), its the total lack of an established voice actor and personality of the Warden that means in effect your creating a new Warden to replace the ones from Origins......really its a generic mage, warrior or rogue who we would call the Warden, but you cannot interact with in any way without destroying the illusion that he/she is the Warden.

 

First of all, the Warden had no personality. There was no patterns of behaviour or anything like that. No tone, nothing. Everything happened in the heads of the players. The Warden was sort of close to Shepard who also is pretty neutral despite having VA and set backgrounds. Renegade and paragon Shepard have the same voice, the same tone etc yet they still feel different. Mostly thanks to actions and decisions these two options give us. Yet people still feel like their Shepards are different if, well, in reality they aren't that different at all

And I'd love to recreate my Wardens in the new CC. Heck, I might be satisfied if we're given the change just to meet a statue of them in some place. Heck, even that would make me happy

Secondly, there are ways, they're difficult but to praise the beauty which was DA:O and its characters it would be worth it

 

 

My problem with him isn't about what he says about Warden, is how he badmouths Hawke all the time. Bioware decided to add Hawke because she fits to the story and he implies how "bioware ignores dao fans". This "excuse" is lame.

Bioware does seem to give more spotlight to Hawke. It's not even just about the mission itself. They mention Hawke in many recent interviews, in the last court, descriptions... while when they do talk about DA:O they mostly concentrate on the characters that return and rarely on the Warden and our experience with them

A couple of mentions would make it look less like they want the Warden to be gone and more like they just decided not to play with the fire

[dsl08002]

Bioware does seem to give more spotlight to Hawke. It's not even just about the mission itself. They mention Hawke in many recent interviews, in the last court, descriptions... while when they do talk about DA:O they mostly concentrate on the characters that return and rarely on the Warden and our experience with them
A couple of mentions would make it look less like they want the Warden to be gone and more like they just decided not to play with the fire

Exactly because right now it seems that bioware really don't want the warden to exist in DAI and are working hard to make it so.

which is basically like this: Alive warden = Dead warden. the same level of significance, which is none!

Bioware havnt said in any occasion: "take it easy we hear you, we hear you" they are putting deaf ear on all the time.

[Starwingz]

Leliana song style DLC with HoF as protagonist displaying events of the Breach from his/her prespective. Do it Bioware, you know this will sell.

[ShepardsBane]

First of all, the Warden had no personality. There was no patterns of behaviour or anything like that. No tone, nothing. Everything happened in the heads of the players. The Warden was sort of close to Shepard who also is pretty neutral despite having VA and set backgrounds. Renegade and paragon Shepard have the same voice, the same tone etc yet they still feel different. Mostly thanks to actions and decisions these two options give us. Yet people still feel like their Shepards are different if, well, in reality they aren't that different at all

And I'd love to recreate my Wardens in the new CC. Heck, I might be satisfied if we're given the change just to meet a statue of them in some place. Heck, even that would make me happy

Secondly, there are ways, they're difficult but to praise the beauty which was DA:O and its characters it would be worth it

 

 

Bioware does seem to give more spotlight to Hawke. It's not even just about the mission itself. They mention Hawke in many recent interviews, in the last court, descriptions... while when they do talk about DA:O they mostly concentrate on the characters that return and rarely on the Warden and our experience with them

A couple of mentions would make it look less like they want the Warden to be gone and more like they just decided not to play with the fire

Because this is what would make YOU happy. Obviously, one would only have to look at this forum for proof, people feel a lot different than you do. Some want to just see the Warden, some don't want him there, some want to talk to him, and so on and so forth.

 

So, when you have millions of people wanting different things, and take into calculations that at least half of DA:O fans would be pissed about their Wardens not being included in the way they want them to be included, why would Bioware then put the Warden in? It would be silly to.

[earl of the north]

First of all, the Warden had no personality. There was no patterns of behaviour or anything like that. No tone, nothing. Everything happened in the heads of the players. The Warden was sort of close to Shepard who also is pretty neutral despite having VA and set backgrounds. Renegade and paragon Shepard have the same voice, the same tone etc yet they still feel different. Mostly thanks to actions and decisions these two options give us. Yet people still feel like their Shepards are different if, well, in reality they aren't that different at all

And I'd love to recreate my Wardens in the new CC. Heck, I might be satisfied if we're given the change just to meet a statue of them in some place. Heck, even that would make me happy

Secondly, there are ways, they're difficult but to praise the beauty which was DA:O and its characters it would be worth it

 

Which is what I wrote, since the Warden has no set personality its impossible to recreate the player's Warden. Unless the Warden appears as a line of shop dummies with no voice and personality its nigh on impossible to bring the Warden from DAO to DAI. Bioware would need to read our minds to be able to recreate our Wardens, it just isn't going to happen.

 

I'm not sure what you mean about Shepard he/she did have a set face and personality (sure you could modify the face) like Hawke making it possible to bring a character from one game to another.

[aerisblight]

awww I want the option to hug the air out of my warden's windpipe =(

[earl of the north]

Can I just point also that we have no idea at this point how much the Warden is mentioned, how much we (if we do) interact with the Warden through the war table or even if the Warden becomes our pen pal constantly witting us long boring letters about his time during the blight.  

[WildOrchid]

Bioware does seem to give more spotlight to Hawke. It's not even just about the mission itself. They mention Hawke in many recent interviews, in the last court, descriptions... while when they do talk about DA:O they mostly concentrate on the characters that return and rarely on the Warden and our experience with them

A couple of mentions would make it look less like they want the Warden to be gone and more like they just decided not to play with the fire

 

Warden got more material than Hawke tbh. Besides, as i've said so many times, Hawke's story still hasn't ended yet.

[Star fury]

Warden got more material than Hawke tbh. Besides, as i've said so many times, Hawke's story still hasn't ended yet.

Warden got more because he/she deserved it.

[WildOrchid]

Warden got more because he/she deserved it.

 

And now Hawke will get the material they deserve.

[dsl08002]

I just find it unacceptable if it will only turn out to be a advisor mission.

[Chari]

Because this is what would make YOU happy. Obviously, one would only have to look at this forum for proof, people feel a lot different than you do. Some want to just see the Warden, some don't want him there, some want to talk to him, and so on and so forth.

 

So, when you have millions of people wanting different things, and take into calculations that at least half of DA:O fans would be pissed about their Wardens not being included in the way they want them to be included, why would Bioware then put the Warden in? It would be silly to.

The problem is that the Warden deserves to be mentioned in more than some lame agent mini-mission

If you decide not to show them fine

Then make sth awesome without them showing-off. A series of quests, agent mission. Or even just people talking about the great Hero of Fereldan still being the frigging Hero of Fereldan when the country needs them

 

 

Which is what I wrote, since the Warden has no set personality its impossible to recreate the player's Warden. Unless the Warden appears as a line of shop dummies with no voice and personality its nigh on impossible to bring the Warden from DAO to DAI. Bioware would need to read our minds to be able to recreate our Wardens, it just isn't going to happen.

 

I'm not sure what you mean about Shepard he/she did have a set face and personality (sure you could modify the face) like Hawke making it possible to bring a character from one game to another.

No one needs to recreate the Warden. It's not the game about the Warden, or Hawke. There is no even a need (or possibility) to give them a personality. That's just a nonsense to even think of

A quest, battle, situation and - if the Warden just has to talk - neutrally-sounding lines. Not eveything just has to shout "aggressive/pacific/sarcastic". Like 40% of Shepard's lines in ME3 which were so neutral the whole three options we were given sounded like the same thing 

 

I mean that despite Shepard had a voice, a personality (sort of) most fans didn't feel like it didn't match their Shepards. Even I managed to be able to play as a self-insert in a way and didn't feel disconnected from the PC. Unlike Hawke, whose voice wasn't neutral enough for this effect 

E.g. go a see some fanart, read some fanfictions. There are crazy Shepards, silly Shepards, hilarious, angry, sad and many more

[Chari]

Warden got more material than Hawke tbh. Besides, as i've said so many times, Hawke's story still hasn't ended yet.

What story? I mean, really. Warden had a beginning and a goal which they decided (even if the player didn't want to) to carry on (unless they died) a.k.a. they stayed in the order, killing the darkspawn and trying to prevent the Bligh and doing shitload of political and other cool stuff like killing demons and making Kings

It was solid enough, vague enough

Unless sb's Hawke was trying to create this revolution I can hardly grasp what story there was. Anders can be dead, the mage-templars conflict in DAI is resolved very early. So their story is obviously not about mages and templars. Cory? Well, that seems to be the case but it was started in a DLC and wasn't even the part of the main game...

I guess this is their story? They suddenly go hunting after a darkspawn... hmm, might as well join the Wardens

[ShepardsBane]

The problem is that the Warden deserves to be mentioned in more than some lame agent mini-mission

If you decide not to show them fine

Then make sth awesome without them showing-off. A series of quests, agent mission. Or even just people talking about the great Hero of Fereldan still being the frigging Hero of Fereldan when the country needs them

 

 

No one needs to recreate the Warden. It's not the game about the Warden, or Hawke. There is no even a need (or possibility) to give them a personality. That's just a nonsense to even think of

A quest, battle, situation and - if the Warden just has to talk - neutrally-sounding lines. Not eveything just has to shout "aggressive/pacific/sarcastic". Like 40% of Shepard's lines in ME3 which were so neutral the whole three options we were given sounded like the same thing 

 

I mean that despite Shepard had a voice, a personality (sort of) most fans didn't feel like it didn't match their Shepards. Even I managed to be able to play as a self-insert in a way and didn't feel disconnected from the PC. Unlike Hawke, whose voice wasn't neutral enough for this effect 

E.g. go a see some fanart, read some fanfictions. There are crazy Shepards, silly Shepards, hilarious, angry, sad and many more

Again, this is something that would make you happy, this is the way you would like it to be. As someone who has done 7 play thrus, with several different wardens, I am content with a small nod, or mention.

 

We already know the Warden is getting a mention, so, whether it's in the capacity you would like, we shall wait and see.

 

To me, the Warden story is over, he had a game, DLC, and an expansion. It's been 10 years since the blight, and people have bigger concerns then to sit around praising the HoF all day. Will he be siting on the sidelines while all of this is happening? No, but that's where the small mention will come in.

[Chari]

Again, this is something that would make you happy, this is the way you would like it to be. As someone who has done 7 play thrus, with several different wardens, I am content with a small nod, or mention.

 

We already know the Warden is getting a mention, so, whether it's in the capacity you would like, we shall wait and see.

 

To me, the Warden story is over, he had a game, DLC, and an expansion. It's been 10 years since the blight, and people have bigger concerns then to sit around praising the HoF all day. Will he be siting on the sidelines while all of this is happening? No, but that's where the small mention will come in.

A person's story is not over unless the person is dead

The Warden has an important job, the Warden has incredible abilities and a lot of business to do (especially if they're royals now) 

Let's not do Pikachu-gets-nerfed type of thing and make the Warden suddenly lose all the abilities and influence just so everyone can forget about them