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#51
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As Bioware has previously stated, they deliberately opt for gender neutral animations for their protagonists so there's nothing "obvious" about a male rig being used in a poor animation. You admit yourself that you don't know enough about it to properly judge the reasoning for it so how can you be so sure the devs designed the diarrhea shuffle with males in mind?

I called them 'male animations' because that's what the reviewer from Kotaku called them, whether or not they were actually intended to be male is not the intended point of my post. The point is that animations in the cutscenes look wrong for a female PC just like they did in DA:O. Call it the 'gorilla walk' if that makes you feel better.



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People, people let us just see it this way. Some get their strange hip-breaking animation outside cut scenes and others get their heavy legs gorilla inside cut scene. This way everyone has to surfer and I am ok with that.



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As Bioware has previously stated, they deliberately opt for gender neutral animations for their protagonists so there's nothing "obvious" about a male rig being used in a poor animation. You admit yourself that you don't know enough about it to properly judge the reasoning for it so how can you be so sure the devs designed the diarrhea shuffle with males in mind?

 

You're being obtuse now in an attempt to conflate this into a discussion it's not.  If you observe Cassandra's walk versus the FemQuizzie's walk there is a glaring difference in rigs + Bioware has historically used the male rigs for females + The maleQuizzie in the same scene displays the same walk.  

No one is trying to declare an anti-man rant here, so?   And my "admittance" was in regards to Bioware's resource managing being the culprit, as their explanation could come to nothing but "We didn't care enough to bother".

 

If you're not even happy with the walk I don't know why you're bothering to start arguments here?  We should progress towards better animations for both genders.


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You're being obtuse now

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Don't make me google a triple facepalm pic.


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Don't make me google a triple facepalm pic.

 

I would like to point out in a full display of maturity....he started it.   :P

 

On-topic: if other forum-goers know which videos have examples of a more "normal" cutscene walk I'd like a link, please!


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It's frustrating that the male animations are the default, hopefully this changes next game.

I'd prefer a toggle, so you can have a feminine, neutral, or masculine walk no matter gender.

There's a difference between developing a second set of movement animations and animating every cutscene in the game twice.


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They simply couldn't be bothered to make a new set of female animations for cutscenes(which is very expensive). People says its gender neutral, in reality its just the male animations shared between the 2.


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Gender neutral flight:

 

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Gender neutral flight:

 

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That is obviously the rig of a male jellyfish.  I can tell in the way they undulate their limbs.


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They simply couldn't be bothered to make a new set of female animations for cutscenes(which is very expensive). People says its gender neutral, in reality its just the male animations shared between the 2.


I think we have to wait to find this out. DAO had many female animations. The problem comes when Bio uses a universal animation like in a walk cut scene, that causes both male and female to use the same animation. This was done in DAO too. And it does not make a lot of sense as the cut scene is already done, it is fairly cost effective to just duplicate the cut scene and reassign the animation, then flag the scene to female or male.

This is pretty standard stuff. It has to be done for almost ever time a Player has contact with a NPC. Kiss cut scenes require a duplicate cut scene, renamed and adjusted for every race/gender, player and NPC.

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I'm more concerned about the ridiculously unrealistic hip swaying of any female character as she runs, especially awkward to see a giant female warrior Qunari running in the sexiest manner she can attempt. When Bioware said they were aggressively checking Skyrim, did they mean the player mods?

 

I would have done with gender-natural animations like most other RPG's have but people moaned and now we have incredibly stupid running animations for the female characters. Ah not like I care, I guess the more feminine animations will make sense for a rogue/mage female and I always play a warrior as a male so there's no problem there although it's going to be weird to see any female warrior characters running in the sexiest manner they can attempt, just doesn't seem right for people who get up close and personal to run and walk as if they were going down a cat-walk...

 

Ah no matter, that's one feature the children of 4/chan and RPG Codex will love just as many of the Skyrim sex mods are popular with them so I guess it appeals to some.


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I doubt they'd patch it for this game, but it is highly disappointing that they didn't care to have enough time to make sure that the animation were a smooth transition into cutscenes with both genders instead of just one. :(

 

They never care enough.  Apparently equality is not cost effective.  #notbitteratfemalegamersalwaysgettingtheshaft



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Gender neutral flight:

 

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see thats just a typicaly male action.

#girlwhojustdosntgiveaflyingmonkies.



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If I recall correctly, Femshep didn't have her own.

 

Not until ME3. Many cutscenes (but not all) gave femshep a more natural looking animation set. Namely it just reduced instances of scenes where she'd be walking as if she had huge arms like James or male shep. It still cropped in a few scenes, but many scenes you could tell were at least hand tweaked to make her move less like a giant male weightlifter.



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When i argued with the ex she used to switch to "male stance" thats when i knew i was in trouble



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punches are gender nuteral.



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ohh i wouldnt say that m8



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why she lookin?



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no m8 she the ex if she was looking id be very afraid though lol



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wuuus i just bribe mine whith Jaffa cakes and tea.



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rofl that would nae work  on a Scottish lass m8 haha



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works on me and im a scottish lass.. works on my girlfreind to.. try ginger nuts then.



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rofl maybe i try a tunnocks if im in that position again