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[MidgetNemo]

I don´t mind a bittersweet ending,just as long as there´s some closure, if they do follow the cliffhanger up with a DLC or something I´ll just want Solas to explain things. They don´t necessarily need to end up together for me to enjoy the romance but then again I always felt like he was hiding something so I might have been a bit more prepared in that aspect Still,I really like his romance,even if he doesn´t get as much content as some of the others

[TheComfyCat]

Wow, that Solas romance.... just wow. I hardly even know what to think. Like some of you, I also prefer happy endings. And closure. Ugh. 

[Mims]

I think its pretty much assured we'll get DLC, although whether or not closure will be apart of it is debatable. Generally you only sequel bait into the immediate timeframe. The next DA game could be four-five years from now. 

 

If there's a DLC, it would probably be themed around what the Dread Wolf is trying to do with the fade, OR, what is up with all the elven gods in general. There is the question that if Flemeth is Mythal, and Fen'Heral sealed all the gods away...he should technically have been the only god still remaining when he woke up. So how did Flemeth get out? And who else got out? 

 

I don't think Solas is going to end up being the big bad. But I do think his attempts to put things 'back' will cause further calamity that ultimately leads us into the next dragon age game. 

 

Just my speculating, of course.

 

Edit; And further thoughts. If his people aren't the elves, and instead the spirit realm/elven god realm, then it would make sense that his ultimate fear is dying alone. When he sealed off the world of the gods, he put himself in the neutral ground alone.

 

Still doesn't explain how Mythal got out... /ponder

[Uriel]

I want the happy ending. after ME3, the inconclusive (and almost surely not endend happily) DA2, the deletion of the happy ending in DAO (thanks, BioWare, eh! sometimes even in real life things turn out ok, you know?) I want a chace for a happy ending.

 

Happy for those who like the drama. I'm not one of them.

My warden still has a happy ending, he's still with Zevran, so... For Hawke, she's away for her romance, but they can reunite someday.

 

I like happy endings, but not all characters can give that. How a god of trickery can offer it? I only foresee tragedy with him, and that is the charm of this romance. Cullen seems nice, Josephine too, just two examples of romances that would surprise me if they ended bad, but Solas? It would force something upon his character, that I think would denature him. So if I want a happy ending, I just choose another romance.

That doesn't mean that I don't want the promised explanation, though.

[Prince of Keys]

I just got a cute banter between Solas and Varric:

 

 

Solas: By the end of Hard in Hightown, almost every character is revealed as a spy or traitor.

Varric: Wait, you read my book?

Solas: It was in the Inquisition library. Everyone but Donnen turned out to be in disguise. Is that common?

Varric: Are we still talking about books, or are you asking me if everyone I know is a secret agent?

Solas: Are there many tricksters in Dwarven literature?

Varric: A handful, but they're the exception. Mostly they're just honoring the ancestors. It's very dull stuff. Human literature? Now there's where you'll find the tricky, clever, really deceitful types.

Solas: Curious.

Varric: Not really. Dwarves write how they want things to be. Humans write to figure out how things are.

 

Solas asking about tricksters in literature is really cute somehow?? (To be fair, I find most of the things he says/does cute in some way, so... I'm massively biased, apparently.)

 

Posting it here instead of the other thread because part of the reason I think it's cute is because he's Fen'Harel. :U

[Mims]

My ideal sort of 'happy-ending' would be to get him to stop breaking things.

 

Maybe have him go back to the wood, and the Inquisitor go back to the Dalish. The connection between them wouldn't be like, "Oh, let me introduce you to my husband, the Dread Wolf" and more of a spiritual one. Maybe she occasionally vanishes from time to time to explore ruins and chat. 

 

I think if you wanted to have a 'true' happy ending in the vein of a mortal existence, then Solas would have to actually be separated from the Dread Wolf entirely. Which is a possibility, if the Dread Wolf is inhabiting mortal bodies in the same way that Flemeth does. 

 

Truth is, we really don't know a lot about Fen'Heral. We only have the stories, which Solas dismisses, and we have Solas himself. We also have the third entity who [novel spoilers]

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killed Felassan. The implication in the novel that his master was Fen'Heral, and he disposes of Felassan when the latter refuses to reveal the 'passcode' for the eluvian mirror. But it doesn't explicitly say that Fen'Heral killed him either. It could potentially be a red herring for a third party.  

[Miss This or That]

After watching the sad puppy scene of the last romance scene on youtube I can finally say that without playing any of his romance scenes myself so far, I finally teared up a bit. Dread Wolf damn it, that was so sad...

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The way he said "In another world..." - why would you do this to us, Solas? I can understand him, I think he wants her free from any influence by gods or godlike entities and out of possible danger, even from himself, but man... That doesn't make it any better, Solas. At least let her move on, but no, poor girl doesn't even know anything at the end. Why are you my favorite character, again? All the feelsuh.

[DragonRacer]

So, I finally did the "In Your Heart Shall Burn" quest last night. Wow. Just wow. Holy balls to the whole thing.

 

Also means I trekked to Skyhold. What I found interesting is the scene where they first reveal Skyhold and your Quizzy goes down the hill to it and Solas shoots your back A Look™... I remember that look being really dark and almost evil in some of the YouTube videos, but when I got it, it just looked more like a serious/contemplative look. I wonder if it's just a contextual thing, or if his look slightly changes in that scene depending on how you're getting along so far... I'm at friendship levels, at least, as he was greeting me as "my friend" instead of "hello" during our last scenes at Haven.

 

Also, when my Lavellan was stumbling through the snow alone to find the Inquisition again... in the dark, cold storm... is it weird that I found all the distant wolf howls comforting?   Maybe good ol' Fen... ahem, I mean, Solas... was having a pack keep watch over her.

 

 

Well, I don't know about nice quality... >_> My scanner isn't all that great.

 

Here are all three cards, scanned (they're pretty big pictures):

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And here are the two I've got off of my PC:

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I really like how his good card is a white wolf and his bad card is a black wolf. Interesting dichotomy there, and also sort of neat to show how your friendship (and especially romance) can perhaps influence the path of the Dread Wolf himself? Push him down a lighter or darker path in general?

 

I always wondered exactly what Fen'Harel looked like in Dread Wolf form - as in, was he a black wolf, a white wolf, or a gray wolf. Or if it maybe it changed based on his moods and taste at the time.

[Felya87]

My warden still has a happy ending, he's still with Zevran, so... For Hawke, she's away for her romance, but they can reunite someday.

 

I like happy endings, but not all characters can give that. How a god of trickery can offer it? I only foresee tragedy with him, and that is the charm of this romance. Cullen seems nice, Josephine too, just two examples of romances that would surprise me if they ended bad, but Solas? It would force something upon his character, that I think would denature him. So if I want a happy ending, I just choose another romance.

That doesn't mean that I don't want the promised explanation, though.

 

your warden is with Zevran by mere personal headcanon. BioWare word. The ending of DAO/A is gone.

 

I don't believe, and never will, the "this character would be ruined by a happy conclusion of his story". It doesn't make sense. Is only about how is written the ending. (A happy ending can bring much more feelings than a dramatic ending.)

 

And even more because mostly is "the character is ruined". But the character is part of a story. A story doesn't need to end sadly. The character is part of the story. and the story include the character. There is no character who must have a predetermined ending. Is in the hands of the writer to create a story that can break the "rule" of a character that may "feel" going to a road instead making him go to another.

 

And what is great in a game like DAO, is that the player can choose (at least until Bio decide to rewrite everything) if the ending must be dramatic or not.

 

And is what I want. For Solas, I hope for a DLC. (nope, I'm not going to change the romance. Cullen and Josephing seem cute, but boring for my taste.) A choice.

 

I still can't understand why people who like the sad/depressing/dramatic ending don't want those who like happier ending to have it. Why so much selfishness? Whenever I see someone wanting a happier ending, they always ask for a choise, but those who want the drama why don't want the inverse chance?!? (this is something I have seen around a lot, is not related to this conversation in particular  )

[Mims]

Part of the problem between Bioware's constant happy ending/downer ending debate is that each side tends to view the extreme about the other. 

 

People who favor 'downer' endings tend to feel that they champion the narrative, and that a happy ending breaks the illusion that we aren't just playing a game structured upon wish fulfillment. [IE; I am getting a reward because this is a game, not because this is a "true" story.] 

 

People who favor 'happy' endings tend to realize and embrace that games are built upon a certain level of wish fulfillment. We also play games to 'win'. Winning tends to translate to a positive mindset. 

 

Both sides are right on some level. You do need to keep true to the narrative, whatever it might be. But games are built on wish fulfillment. Sit in on any game design discussion, and you'll hear a lot of terms like 'hero moments' or 'fantasy satisfaction' being tossed around. These moments make people invested in the game.

 

Dragon Age does have a theme of trading one for another. You tend to not get a 'perfect' outcome to your actions. In fact, more and more it seems as though Dragon Age is a game where the best intentions often have the worst consequences. 

 

I suppose I don't really have an answer to what is right. A happy ending for the sake of a happy ending can feel just as false as a sad ending for the sake of it. The good thing about Bioware games is that 'head canons' are effectively the name of the game. All we really need is enough ambiguousness that people can infer whatever they'd like as to the outcome of a given situation. 

 

Ideally, you stick true to both. You uphold the narrative, but also make sure that people are predominantly satisfied with what they have just accomplished. 

 

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Regardless, I wouldn't be panicking that the story is over. We still have a year, possibly two years of DLC and supplemental content. 

[Chewy]

Not sure if you guys seen this, but for future reference for someone who is going to try and replay elf and wants to know meaning of vallaslin. It's a guess but by looks and explanation it all make sense.

http://www.glitterdu...vallaslin-lore/

[DragonRacer]

Dude, I'm seriously finding it more fun knowing ahead of time so I can catch all the little hints.

 

Like after the Fade kiss scene (which I finally just lived through myself now), when you talk to him afterwards and Solas tries very hard to warn you away from the idea of starting a relationship. Something about "bad idea" and "risk". Wow. That smacks so hard of Anders in DA2.

 

We were warned. Oh, yes, we were. But YOLO, baby. YOLO.

 

Also, it is SO, SO tempting to screenshot his pretty wolf paintings in Skyhold and Tweet them to Patrick saying:

 

"My, what pretty wolves you have, Solas."

 

"The better to foreshadow with, my dear."

 

[Roxy]

Part of the problem between Bioware's constant happy ending/downer ending debate is that each side tends to view the extreme about the other. 

 

People who favor 'downer' endings tend to feel that they champion the narrative, and that a happy ending breaks the illusion that we aren't just playing a game structured upon wish fulfillment. [IE; I am getting a reward because this is a game, not because this is a "true" story.] 

 

People who favor 'happy' endings tend to realize and embrace that games are built upon a certain level of wish fulfillment. We also play games to 'win'. Winning tends to translate to a positive mindset. 

 

Both sides are right on some level. You do need to keep true to the narrative, whatever it might be. But games are built on wish fulfillment. Sit in on any game design discussion, and you'll hear a lot of terms like 'hero moments' or 'fantasy satisfaction' being tossed around. These moments make people invested in the game.

 

Dragon Age does have a theme of trading one for another. You tend to not get a 'perfect' outcome to your actions. In fact, more and more it seems as though Dragon Age is a game where the best intentions often have the worst consequences. 

 

I suppose I don't really have an answer to what is right. A happy ending for the sake of a happy ending can feel just as false as a sad ending for the sake of it. The good thing about Bioware games is that 'head canons' are effectively the name of the game. All we really need is enough ambiguousness that people can infer whatever they'd like as to the outcome of a given situation. 

 

Ideally, you stick true to both. You uphold the narrative, but also make sure that people are predominantly satisfied with what they have just accomplished. 

 

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Regardless, I wouldn't be panicking that the story is over. We still have a year, possibly two years of DLC and supplemental content. 

 

 

No It seems some people who want to have a sad ending want to be right on the whole subject. Felya explained quite well that those that want a happy ending would like to have choices but some of those who want the sad dramatic endings want try so darn hard to say they are right on "Not all romances need a happy ending" "I love dramatic endings why should there be a happy ending?".

 

 

Smh. That's why I love dragon age they have given you choices to have a happy ending or not and with Solas we didn't get those choices...just the sad dramatic ending.

 

Look if you want that bittersweet sad ending that's fine but there are people that don't want that! I still Love Solas and will definitely play a female elf again but I including others are hoping for a DLC that will give us a choice to either tell him to get lost or have a good closure/ending between Solas and female elf....is that bad? No.

 

 

EDIT:*sigh*  I'm not trying to start anything I'm just a bit confused and upset that some people want to argue over why we even should get a happy ending.

Modifié par Roxy, 22 novembre 2014 - 05:10 .

[Damate]

Dude, I'm seriously finding it more fun knowing ahead of time so I can catch all the little hints.

Like after the Fade kiss scene (which I finally just lived through myself now), when you talk to him afterwards and Solas tries very hard to warn you away from the idea of starting a relationship. Something about "bad idea" and "risk". Wow. That smacks so hard of Anders in DA2.

We were warned. Oh, yes, we were. But YOLO, baby. YOLO.

Also, it is SO, SO tempting to screenshot his pretty wolf paintings in Skyhold and Tweet them to Patrick saying:

"My, what pretty wolves you have, Solas."

"The better to foreshadow with, my dear."

Maybe take a general screenshot of his room and then add the text in code? that's what Patrick uses the rot13 code for after all!

And hi! Been lurking here for a while. I don't have the game yet but I've been spoiling myself silly on Romances trying to decide who to go for 1st. All thus Solas stuff is bloody epic, I can't wait to play!

[Ex-Paladin]

*Delurks* just putting my two cents in: haven't even beaten the game yet but I am in total love with Solas!! Got his first kiss scene and I nearly melted out of my chair. Actually made a save so I can repeat at my leisure...and the second one too after doing his personal quest

 

Spoiled myself silly reading this thread and I too want a happy ending (or closure or whatever you wanna call it!) for my elf girl and Solas! though I guiltily think of Solas visiting his lady elf in her dreams *hopeless romantic*

 

Anyways, I do hope Bioware makes a DLC for Solas like they had for Morrigan's Witch Hunt. I would never want to change Solas...I'd rather join him

 

Us Solas fangirls cry your precious tears for this, Bioware!!!

[Uriel]

your warden is with Zevran by mere personal headcanon. BioWare word. The ending of DAO/A is gone.

 There are multiple personal canons, and the game manages quite well to do so. It is DA:I game itself that said to me that Zevran is still with my warden, in fact (the letter). As I've read, the other romances are respected too.
 

I don't believe, and never will, the "this character would be ruined by a happy conclusion of his story". It doesn't make sense. Is only about how is written the ending. (A happy ending can bring much more feelings than a dramatic ending.)

 So, for an example, do you seriously think that Anakin Skywalker and Padme in Star Wars can really have an happy ending? She would have kissed him, he would have become a good guy again thanks to the power of love, she would have forgiven that he killed children, and they would have lived happy forever?
I don't say that Solas would be "ruined", I said it would be absolutely illogical and not corresponding to what the character is.
 

And what is great in a game like DAO, is that the player can choose (at least until Bio decide to rewrite everything) if the ending must be dramatic or not.

None of the DAO romances involves a god, none involves one who is known for his lies and manipulation. So if you want the tragic ending, it is because of the way you think your warden is, not the way the romance characters are.
 

And is what I want. For Solas, I hope for a DLC. (nope, I'm not going to change the romance. Cullen and Josephing seem cute, but boring for my taste.) A choice.

 Yep, and some wanted to have a man with a romance with Sera or romance Vivienne. But one is lesbian, the second isn't interested. That's how they were written and how you should understand them, then. Solas is written like the traitor, a god of trickery.

 

I still can't understand why people who like the sad/depressing/dramatic ending don't want those who like happier ending to have it. Why so much selfishness? Whenever I see someone wanting a happier ending, they always ask for a choise, but those who want the drama why don't want the inverse chance?!? (this is something I have seen around a lot, is not related to this conversation in particular  )

And I don't see where is the selfishness to say that a romance can't have a good ending because of the way a character was written. In fact, I find more selfishness in wanting to deny it. I don't care about good or bad ending, I care about a good story with characters faithful to what they are. And yes, that's what Solas romance gives, and I'm very pleased with it.

[Roxy]

*Delurks* just putting my two cents in: haven't even beaten the game yet but I am in total love with Solas!! Got his first kiss scene and I nearly melted out of my chair. Actually made a save so I can repeat at my leisure...and the second one too after doing his personal quest

 

Spoiled myself silly reading this thread and I too want a happy ending (or closure or whatever you wanna call it!) for my elf girl and Solas! though I guiltily think of Solas visiting his lady elf in her dreams *hopeless romantic*

 

Anyways, I do hope Bioware makes a DLC for Solas like they had for Morrigan's Witch Hunt. I would never want to change Solas...I'd rather join him

 

Us Solas fangirls cry your precious tears for this, Bioware!!!

 

That scene does make you melt lol...sadly I didn't save before that happened I didn't even know it was going to happen at that time. XD

 

Note to self: Save each time you talk to Solas. 

 

And yes a DLC would be Great...I hope we can leave with him like Male warden did with Morrigan. 

[Ex-Paladin]

That scene does make you melt lol...sadly I didn't save before that happened I didn't even know it was going to happen at that time. XD

 

Note to self: Save each time you talk to Solas. 

 

And yes a DLC would be Great...I hope we can leave with him like Male warden did with Morrigan. 

I had quickly reloaded to watch that scene again...without the squealing and massive blushing

 

I would love to leave with him. I mean, Male Warden can get his mage that leaves via DLC. Hawke of either sex can get/stay with their mage after he bloody blows up the chantry! so, Bioware, please let our lady elf have a choice to stay with her wolfie mage in a possible DLC

 

[Mims]

To be fair- nothing about Solas has shown him to be really embodying the god of trickery just yet. Unless he's a master actor, which is possible, I don't think its completely fair to say what can and what can't happen.

 

By that note, we shouldn't trust Flemeth just because she might be Mythal. We don't have enough information to really know what Solas/Dread Wolf's motives are or were in the past. We don't know what legends are real, and what are the ones that the Dalish may have gotten wrong. 

 

What we have with Solas's character arc is incomplete. This is by design, either to go into the next game, or for DLC. Essentially- Solas hasn't hit that irrefutable moment of 'this is who this character is'. 

[jellobell]

I just got the first kiss scene too! It was shockingly well-done. Like, probably the best romance scene I've ever seen in a Bioware game. I'm a sucker for anything involving dreams, and that realization at the end screamed "Inception". I was just waiting for a *BWOOOMP* noise.

 

And oh gosh, that moment when the inquisitor turns his head and kisses him. And then she turns away but he catches her arm.   It was so well-choreographed. I made a save so I can go back and see it again, but I also took a video (so glad that the PS4 does that).

 

 

Now I can watch it at my leisure.   Talking to him afterwards was almost as good. And taking that one sarcastic option had me laughing so hard I couldn't breathe.

 

Funny thing, I hadn't really explored skyhold a ton before the romance scene, but afterwards I realized that Solas's room is right under the Rookery. Like, the people there get a front-row seat to whatever he does. ...Including that post-kiss talk. Now I want Dorian to begin his next conversation with my inquisitor by saying, "Fade tongue, eh?"

[EvilChani]

No It seems some people who want to have a sad ending want to be right on the whole subject. Felya explained quite well that those that want a happy ending would like to have choices but some of those who want the sad dramatic endings want try so darn hard to say they are right on "Not all romances need a happy ending" "I love dramatic endings why should there be a happy ending?".

 

 

Smh. That's why I love dragon age they have given you choices to have a happy ending or not and with Solas we didn't get those choices...just the sad dramatic ending.

 

Look if you want that bittersweet sad ending that's fine but there are people that don't want that! I still Love Solas and will definitely play a female elf again but I including others are hoping for a DLC that will give us a choice to either tell him to get lost or have a good closure/ending between Solas and female elf....is that bad? No.

 

 

EDIT:*sigh*  I'm not trying to start anything I'm just a bit confused and upset that some people want to argue over why we even should get a happy ending.

 

I think the biggest reason for people not wanting options is a superiority complex. I've seen, from both sides (though, admittedly, less from those who want happy endings), this attitude that the story must only offer a happy ending or a depressing ending because of the "narrative", and, to be honest, to me, it comes off as arrogance. That type of arrogance is what brought us the ME3 "we wanted to make art" pile of crap with its "pick a color" ending, a black romance that can't keep it in his pants for six months when he's supposedly in love with Shepard, and another romance that supposedly had a chance and a desire to survive but, magically, gave up on life while Shepard is gone for a few months. That is what a forced narrative looks like...nonsensical, unsatisfying, and stupid (and a bit racist, in one case).

 

I see a lot of people touting that 'in real life' there aren't always happy endings. While that is true, a lot of times, the lack of a happy ending is based on choice. BioWare's writers get this. You need look no further than ME2 to see that. The only way to get through ME2 with your team in tact is to do everything just so. You have to personally help each one of your team members with their personal quests and you have to choose the right people for the right tasks. Put the wrong person on a task, someone dies. Fail to take a personal interest in  your team's problems (as human beings, instead of paws for your use), and someone dies because they lack loyalty and dedication to you, personally, so do not do as good of a job. Or, if you prefer, you can blame it on the fact that they are thinking about the problems you refused to help them solve. Either way, the result is the same. No perfectly happy ending (unless you wanted one of them dead, of course). If you want the perfectly happy ending, you have to work for it. That may or may not be considered a 'narrative', but most times it holds true in real life.

 

To be clear, I'm not calling anyone here arrogant, but the bottom line is that insisting that there is no choice for a happy ending with a romance or even with the story as a whole is selfish. It reminds me of the people who whine because battles are too easy in a game, then want any option for a  'story mode' or 'easy mode' taken out because they, personally, don't want it.

[EvilChani]

 So, for an example, do you seriously think that Anakin Skywalker and Padme in Star Wars can really have an happy ending? She would have kissed him, he would have become a good guy again thanks to the power of love, she would have forgiven that he killed children, and they would have lived happy forever?
I don't say that Solas would be "ruined", I said it would be absolutely illogical and not corresponding to what the character is.
 

And I don't see where is the selfishness to say that a romance can't have a good ending because of the way a character was written. In fact, I find more selfishness in wanting to deny it. I don't care about good or bad ending, I care about a good story with characters faithful to what they are. And yes, that's what Solas romance gives, and I'm very pleased with it.

 

I'm a huge Star Wars fan, and love Anakin/Vader, so I have to answer this one...

 

For Anakin and Padme, no, once he had gotten to a certain point, they could not have a happy ending. However, if Padme - who was an adult by the time she and Anakin got together - had handled the situation differently, they could've had a better ending. He wanted to quit the Jedi Order and leave with her...had they done that, he would not have become Vader. Padme was a selfish ******, to be honest. She jerked him around, kissed him and told him not to kiss her, wore a handkerchief then scolded him for the fact that his eyes were popping out of his head, and wore a a dress that her tiny boobs were popping out of while wearing a leash and acting like she didn't understand why he was drooling. She blathered on about "not living a lie" then led him to do just that. He would've quit the Jedi for her because he loved her that much, but she wanted to have it both ways...she wanted him and wanted to be a politician as well, and didn't give a flying crap how much stress that put on him. Had he had someone who understood him and loved him enough to tell him to walk away from the Jedi for his own good (he never belonged there because he was too human and valued people over institutions), he could've had a happy ending. God, I hate Padme....

 

And while I'm on this...had Obi-Wan not been an unmitigated douchebag, and been more understanding about Anakin's nature (the way Qui-Gonn would've been), Anakin's mother never would've been murdered (I still the Palpatine had a hand in that). Had the Jedi not been a bunch of idiots insisting on all of its members disconnecting themselves from human contact so they could become a bunch of unfeeling, supieror a$$wipes, it would've turned out differently. So, yes, I believe Anakin could've had a happier ending and never become Vader if the people around him hadn't been so stubborn, selfish, and blind to his soft heart and humanity. Instead, the only real friend he had was Palpatine, who manipulated him, used his deep feelings for those he loved against him, and used him to his own ends.

 

So yes, it is selfish to say that a company (that makes money making games that appeal to the largest audience possible, mind you) should not have possible happy endings for every possible character. The whole 'narrative' thing doesn't work here because it's not a bloody book. It's a game...with choices...so if the right combination of choices leads to a happy ending for a character you, personally, don't think should have one, it's no skin off your nose. If you don't want it, don't play it that way. But don't tell other people that they shouldn't have it either. That is the very definition of selfish.

 

 

 

 

[Felya87]

 There are multiple personal canons, and the game manages quite well to do so. It is DA:I game itself that said to me that Zevran is still with my warden, in fact (the letter). As I've read, the other romances are respected too.

 

I haven't played that far, so for now I don't know. But the DAO/A ending wasn't anymore in play in DAI.
 

 So, for an example, do you seriously think that Anakin Skywalker and Padme in Star Wars can really have an happy ending? She would have kissed him, he would have become a good guy again thanks to the power of love, she would have forgiven that he killed children, and they would have lived happy forever?
I don't say that Solas would be "ruined", I said it would be absolutely illogical and not corresponding to what the character is.
 

Maybe. Since there was to respect what would have had to happen in order to respect the original trilogy, it could not have been done (that's the problems with prequels, can't have the freedon a sequel can have).

I could have seen a story of a penitent Anakin that came to his senses. But I never really liked the new trilogy, so maybe is my simple preference who talk.

 

None of the DAO romances involves a god, none involves one who is known for his lies and manipulation. So if you want the tragic ending, it is because of the way you think your warden is, not the way the romance characters are.
 

One word. Morrigan. Than I add God Child. DLC Witch Hunt to have a reunion.

And if Flemeth is Mithal (you know, that woman who took men at home, and had sex with them and than discarded them, maybe kill them, while her daughter saw everything, and wanted to inhabit the body of that same daughter.) the goddess of love, well, I have many doubts Solas is really the trickster the Dalish legends says (we know Dalish folklore isn't reliable. See Valaslin meaning)

No reason why can't have my Inquisitor have the same freedom of choice as the Warden here.

 

 Yep, and some wanted to have a man with a romance with Sera or romance Vivienne. But one is lesbian, the second isn't interested. That's how they were written and how you should understand them, then. Solas is written like the traitor, a god of trickery.

 

what...? I'm not asking a complete romance, I'm not even asking. I'm hoping for a DLC and a clarification/choice of reunion of an existent romance ark, reunion and explanation already teased by Solas himself. In an open ending, heavily implied to have more to come. He is probably not the trickster the Dalish elves say. Surely is not written as one. A person with a personal agenda who don't want to share? yes. Trickster? less or same as Morrigan (I'd say less. Nothing came out of his secret that would really touch directly the Inquisitor).

 

And I don't see where is the selfishness to say that a romance can't have a good ending because of the way a character was written. In fact, I find more selfishness in wanting to deny it. I don't care about good or bad ending, I care about a good story with characters faithful to what they are. And yes, that's what Solas romance gives, and I'm very pleased with it.

 

Is a preference. You like the sad ending, and you are happy with it. You find that appropriate. I don't find so.

BUT. We don't really know if the romance must end badly. Because, in truth, isn't even ended. I don't want to deny anything. But I can hope and say what I'd prefer for a game that should be based on choice, and where we already had the chance to decide how we want our ending. I don't find the cliffanger that compelling.

 

And we are going again on that road. Why can't I say what I'd prefer? Why can't I voice that I'm not happy with sadness? Why can't I hope? Why do you NOT want others, if it came out, like a happy ending? why do you think is so "impossible" to have one (even Morrigan had one, sort of)? If it ever came out a DLC like Witch Hunt for Solas, and it will give the chance to have a sad or a happy ending would you be against it?

[Damate]

Butting in again:

1) I haven't played the game yet, but it sounds like Solas makes a point of the Dalish getting a lot wrong about the Elves of Ancient times. IF that is true, I don't think we can try to accurately guess his motives/actions as a "trickster God" as we now have reason to believe what we "know" about the Elven pantheon and Arlathen could all be wrong or very skewed. So who knows what he is thinking/doing/up to for better or worse.

2) Guys, it's a RPG. By a company that really does try to provide and back up gamer choice. Are they always perfect at that? No, but they try. So anyone's opinion on what they'd like to see in DLC or a future game are just as valid as another opinion because ultimately the desired result is a desire for choices. Even if those choices only affect the flavor of any given outcome that is fixed-state for narrative reasons. So if there is a DLC and if it does still end with Solas and the Inquisitor apart, it's not out of the BioWare "norm" that there are many ways that state can be achieved. With more explanation and/or hope for eventual reunion OR with much more mystery and bittersweet parting.

Either way I hope it's a story thread BW plans to embellish upon sooner rather than later!!

...and i'ma cry ugly, ugly tears if Flemeth killed Solas. I don't want Flemeth dead either but at least I'm already certain she would have a way back, lol.

[Ajna]

So I just had the second scene on the balcony, I think he really does have genuine feelings for the Inquisitor, he's surprised by them I think, surprised by her but he fights it ofc because of god stuff I imagine.  Just thinking about how it ends though, makes my stomach drop through the floor... not looking forward to it...