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[Roxy]

Where did you find the companion´s fears in the fade?

It is near the end of the fade mission. Right around the time you help the last dreamer. it will be an open area below the 2 Pride demons, and waaay in the back will be some tombstones.

Here is a pic I took when my quizzy was there:

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Also I want to say it's funny when we get into the fade and Solas acts like he's a kid at disneyworld it's cute, I also had IB with us and what he said to Solas lol

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He said something along the lines IB: This must be something amazing for your crazy ass.

Solas: Yes,literally.

also I got to know is anybody else getting a glitch when you go see a companion, you can't see them? Maybe it's only on PC that are having those problems idk.

[Chrys]

It is near the end of the fade mission. Right around the time you help the last dreamer. it will be an open area below the 2 Pride demons, and waaay in the back will be some tombstones.

 

Do you remember what any of the other tombstones said?

[Roxy]

Do you remember what any of the other tombstones said?

 

I think so...but just a few...

 

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Blackwall: Himself

 

Sera: The nothing

 

Dorian: Temptation 

 

Varric: Becoming his parents

[coldwetn0se]

Yes.

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Once you go to Val Royeaux, you should be able to start recruiting the other companions.

LOL! I had a feeling about that!!

Thank you for setting me on the right path. But! At least I have been having fun, eh??

[RynJ]

Oh this tragic romance. His face in the final romance scene if you tell him you love him and not to go, though. He just looks SO devastated. I have never seen a "What have I done? I'm terrible" look so well portrayed in a video game! 

[SamanthaJ]

"I do adore the heady blend of power, intrigue, danger, and sex that permeates these events." 

 

Oh Solas.

[Chrys]

"I do adore the heady blend of power, intrigue, danger, and sex that permeates these events." 

 

Oh Solas.

 

What's the context for that?? xD

[SamanthaJ]

What's the context for that?? xD

He says it when you talk to him at the ball. He seems quite happy about this whole thing. The servants keep refilling his drink. 

[Roxy]

He says it when you talk to him at the ball. He seems quite happy about this whole thing. The servants keep refilling his drink.

Haha!

I had a feeling that's what you were going to say lol! I haven't even gotten to that mission yet *sighs* so many places to go. XD

[Chrys]

Guys, I was watching a Sera video and there was a convo option the person never took that said she didn't fit the Inquisition. I take it that's not a dismissal option? Because I haven't seen a dismissal option for anyone though I thought the devs had said we could tell companions to leave? But it seems we can only cause them to leave.

[Damate]

Lovely Solas fans: Does your Inquisitors Class cause any notable difference in the Solas relationship?

[SamanthaJ]

Pfft. 

 

I remember those fake joke code files or whatever they were from 4chan that mentioned Corypheus and dancing. Just now my Inquisitor said something to the effect of she could do more dancing...but not with Corypheus. 

 

@Damate

 

I haven't noticed major differences thus far. His third flirt in his first conversation in Haven changes, though. Instead of calling the Inquisitor graceful he apparently wants to see her dominated.

[Damate]

@Damate

I haven't noticed major differences thus far. His third flirt in his first conversation in Haven changes, though. Instead of calling the Inquisitor graceful he apparently wants to see her dominated.

O.o
Wait... Dominated like: WooKinky! Or like... MagePissingContest? o.O

[SamanthaJ]

O.o
Wait... Dominated like: WooKinky! Or like... MagePissingContest? o.O

He says something about you having an indomitable spirit, and says he has yet to see you dominated but that it would be interesting.

[Auroqui]

I don't know if it was discussed already but In the temple of mythal there's a codex entry on fen'harel that says harel was mistranslated in the age of towers and doesn't mean trickster, it means rebellion, making fen'harel the god of rebellion which makes a lot of sense. 

 

where did you find the codex entry? i've read somewhere that it's on a statue but i can't find the correct one >.> i'm dying to read the entry!

 

also, has anyone else noticed that there's a non-functioning lever in fen'harel's room in the temple of mythal?

[Felya87]

hmm...if the meaning of Harel is indeed rebellion, and he was the only God without slaves in the Elven Phanteon, and he indeed freed them...I'm starting to think if he may be Arlathan too? I remember having a friend thinking Flemeth was Andraste.

 

Solas/Fen'Harel and Mithal are friends. Andraste and Arlathan where allies.

 

Solas is bald like the ghost of Shartan in the Sacred Ashes temple in DAO.

[renfrees]

But would she really worship him if she decided to stay with him? Would he even WANT to be worshipped? Our Dalish elf can actually be played rather anti-dalish. She doesn't even know that he is a god at this point. I don't really know why you decided to point this out, since I never spoke about worshipping at all. We see gods that fall in love with mortals in a ton of cultures - almost all of them end sadly, but, well, we know that kind of narrative already. I simply decided to speak about a possible closure, be it happy or sad or something in-between. Because this was the general theme in this thread right now.

What does happiness with a deity entail? He takes her through an eluvian and she waits there for him? Or she calls to him at night to come? Considering who he is... what is a prayer, if not calling to the god?

[Miss This or That]

What does happiness with a deity entail? He takes her through an eluvian and she waits there for him? Or she calls to him at night to come? Considering who he is... what is a prayer, if not calling to the god?

I could see that if his romance STARTED with our Inquisitor knowing that he is a god. She does not, however, and Solas states the Elven gods weren't really 'gods' to begin with. If the Vallaslin is a form of slave marking like he says, then it makes sense that he, and only he, does not have a type of marking that you can pick.

He hates those markings, 'hates' the fact that the Dalish really see the gods as gods. Can you imagine how he would react to worshipping him? He'd probably leave a second time.

Who's to say the Inquisitor would be nothing but an unwelcome tag-along, anyway? If she were to follow him because she loves him then that has nothing to do with worship - because she didn't even knew he was a god in the first place.

Love doesn't magically change to worship the moment you learn someone is a god. If she wants to be near him because of her feelings for him, then that does not mean she prays for him or suddenly begins to worship him. She simply loves him. That CAN turn into a form of worshipping him and I think that is one more reason why he left her, but it's not the only possible outcome.

If she was an anti-dalish Dalish, then she probably doesn't believe strongly in the gods in the first place. If she were to decide that she waits for him, then she would simply wait for him. Now, if she were to scream out "Dread Wolf take me!" then she would be a small lunatic and possible someone that worships him. But not simply because she loves him.

[TheComfyCat]

What does happiness with a deity entail? He takes her through an eluvian and she waits there for him? Or she calls to him at night to come? Considering who he is... what is a prayer, if not calling to the god?

 

I agree with chibielf (and Morrigan, incidentally); I don't think they were gods at all. It's clear that much of Elven history has been twisted and/or forgotten. The ancient world was probably still a place full of power and politics, so I find it more likely that while they lived, most of these "Elven gods" were just Elves who demanded to be worshiped/ honored simply because they were powerful enough to do so.

 

 

Solas would not be a deity dragging around a dewy-eyed worshiper. He and the inquisitor could still work together as equals, since he is not actually a god.

[renfrees]

What makes deity a deity, to begin with? Faith, power, wisdom, knowledge, immortality? What of it he doesn't have?

In many settings we see that the gods were once a mortals, that doesn't stop them from being the gods now.

[TheComfyCat]

What makes deity a deity, to begin with? Faith, power, wisdom, knowledge, immortality? What of it he doesn't have?

In many settings we see that the gods were once a mortals, that doesn't stop them from being the gods now.

 

If those traits were all it took to make a deity, then Thedas should have been brimming with gods in ancient times. Believing someone is a god does not make him one, especially since Solas does not seem to desire any such status. Remaining with Solas does not necessitate worshiping him. If anything, I'd hope he could help put some of the misguided Dalish superstitions to rest.

[Miss This or That]

What makes deity a deity, to begin with? Faith, power, wisdom, knowledge, immortality? What of it he doesn't have?
In many settings we see that the gods were once a mortals, that doesn't stop them from being the gods now.

We see quite clearly that Solas does not want to be considered a god to begin with. If being a deity was all that mattered to him he could have twisted Lavellan's opinions about the Dread Wolf and then reveal himself to her, making her nothing but a little pawn, if she chose to believe him.

He breaks things off instead, maybe because he fears that it would certainly change everything and push him away from pursuing his goal without getting too emotionally involved.

Why would someone like Solas want a worshipping tag-along? Why would Lavellan worship him in the first place if her main focus is to get him to stay because she loves him? Why should every single Lavellan turn into a worshipping elf simply because you say so? There are countless possibilities. Your opinion can easily be one, but it's not the only one.

I can have a headcanon where my Lavellan tells him "I don't care. You are Solas to me - that's all that matters." and that would be equally possible to your worshipping Inquisitor.

[renfrees]

He breaks things off instead, maybe because he fears that it would certainly change everything and push him away from pursuing his goal without getting too emotionally involved.

Well, maybe you answered yourself why there's no happy ending to that romance, instead of wishful thinking?

[Miss This or That]

Well, maybe you answered yourself why there's no happy ending to that romance, instead of wishful thinking?

 

Uhm...I'm not part of the 'happy ever after group' in the slightest - I'm all for drama, but drama with closure. My Lavellan certainly wouldn't have her happy ending, but I'm all for the bittersweet ones. (Fade romance buddy ending sounds very interesting, in my opinion. Or an ending where the Inquisitor has to give up the world of the living/her own mortality to join him, or something.) This wasn't an end to anything. It was a "Let me tell you what your people got wrong, then kiss you, then simply end it all." sort of thing. Without closure because our Inquisitor remains in the dark the entire time.

 

Don't you go around and tell me that wishful thinking is wrong, either. Solas gave us no time to tell him that we would still stay at his side, even through hell and back, because he thought it would be great to just leave without an explanation. He didn't want to hear it because he was selfish, in a way. And he even promised that everything would be made clear in the end. This is a game about options - why is it bad that we want options? Can't we possibly tell him "You are you and everything else doesn't matter." "I can't live with what you are." or "Let me prove that staying away from me won't solve anything, either." in a possible future DLC? Is that so bad? Does it magically break the laws of role-playing games?

 

Our Hawke could run off into the sunset with Anders. A male Warden could follow Morrigan through the Eluvian. Magical happy ending, even though everything seemed grim. Is it honestly impossible to think that a female Dalish elf could simply love him despite what he is and what he represents? Is it impossible to imagine an elf that can convince Solas that simply giving up on something won't solve anything, either? We saw pretty clearly that Solas himself was devastated after ending his relationship with Lavellan at the end. Do you really think these emotions will now simply fade away and won't haunt him anymore?

 

If you want to have a Lavellan that would worship Solas but wouldn't leave with him because he is a god, then that is fine. I don't tell you what your Inquisitor needs to do. But don't tell us everything needs to be grim, dark, dramatic and sad - and without a real closure. Because YES, I believe that simply breaking things off, promising to explain everything after the fight is over and then just vanishing into thin air is NOT a real ending. If you think it is, then that is fine - as I said before. But do not tell me and the other fans in this thread that wishing for another/real closure is bad. It is not.

[mindoirs]

Y'all...new victim here...just saw the final scene. Apparently the epilogue will give a bit more but...I'm on the verge of tears. Omg.

 

I need closure and I will be SO damn pissed if we don't get it at one point in the future. And it better not come like Zevran in DA2 or something like that. I don't even want to play as anyone but my Inquisitor and see Solas ;_;